I'm enjoying the second half of the record much more. Now I'm hearing the classic Rush many reviewers spoke of. Headlong Flight could have been on the 2112 record.
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RUSH Clockwork Angels
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I find the mix not so great. The bass in my opinion, is too high in the mix, way over the guitar in many a lot of the songs, even over the vocals in places. I love bass as much as the next guy, but it still must serve the song.
My son even complained about it. It reminds me of the last Primus CD, Larry being buried in the mix.
Just my opinion.
My son even complained about it. It reminds me of the last Primus CD, Larry being buried in the mix.
Just my opinion.
It's a funny day when we complain about the bass being too high in the mix, but I totally agree. Alex got the shaft a bit on this one. Regardless,love the album.
Not sure... there's lots of guitar, maybe even too many parts happening at once... IMO the mix is rather "dense" because the individual tracks are so compressed. The bright/grindy bass probably eats into the guitar's frequency range somewhat. I agree that the solos could be up higher. I also find the drums sound sort of small... the tones are there... but too squashed.
I've often thought that many Rush albums had Alex a bit back in the mix, especially in the Bitchen Dozen (first twelve releases). I think that after decades of listening to those recordings I know what Alex is going to play so his parts seem to stand out more. This new album may be that way. We're not as familiar with it yet so Alex's parts seem farther back. After we learn his parts mentally they will sound (or perhaps "seem to sound") more prominent.
I've also found that the more I dislike an album right off the gitgo the more I fall deeply in love with it as I listen to it more. Initial dislike is a good sign for me.
I've also found that the more I dislike an album right off the gitgo the more I fall deeply in love with it as I listen to it more. Initial dislike is a good sign for me.
Should be interesting to hear these songs live, without all the layering of guitar parts. The live versions from Snakes and Arrows are great.
I never thought the bass was too high in the mix. At least, not in the songs I usually listen to from the album. The guitar is very loud and driving, the drums sound pretty good, and the bass is very gritty and sits in the mix well.
Got it friday night and can't stop listening to it!
Songs are complex, fun and a 1000 miles from S&A! Can't remember being that excited over a new RUSH album since VT came out (after I spent almost 5 yrs wondering whether they'd ever play together again!).
I'm a big fan but I'm aware they aren't getting any younger, and although I liked S&A, I was really afraid they'd close shop with that one - Clockwork Angels is a masterpiece.
Hats off, those dudes did it again!
Songs are complex, fun and a 1000 miles from S&A! Can't remember being that excited over a new RUSH album since VT came out (after I spent almost 5 yrs wondering whether they'd ever play together again!).
I'm a big fan but I'm aware they aren't getting any younger, and although I liked S&A, I was really afraid they'd close shop with that one - Clockwork Angels is a masterpiece.
Hats off, those dudes did it again!
So do most of you think we might be looking at this being their last album?
I didn't think so before, but seems a lot of people are starting to feel that way.
I didn't think so before, but seems a lot of people are starting to feel that way.
I see a new Rush renaissance. I'd love to see them doing maybe another 5 albums. Of course, that might put them up into their 70's but wouldn't that be great to see 70 year old men jamming on this kind of music.
Based on this interview clip, I don't think Geddy feels like he's done, but he will quit while he can still play.
I had started another thread regarding the lyrics to "The Garden" and also Headlong Flight which makes me think that this could be it for them as far as new material goes. Maybe we will get a 40th Anniversary Tour from them, but after that, who knows. Geddy said in an interview last week that he knows that their days of being able to perform as they are now, are numbered, so they will keep at it until the time comes where they physically cannot do it anymore. And Alex said he has no desire to be a "Nostalgia Band" that continues to tour on their back catalog. Plus CA is so awesome, it would be ending on a high (very high) note. As much as I would love to to see them continue on for many years to come, that would be denying reality. Whatever happens in the future, we have a tremendous body of work to thrill our ears forever.
For me RUSH is the best band ever...better than (prepare for gasps now) the big boys like The Stones (never understood the appeal), The Who, Zepp, and yes, even the Fab Four. Maybe because of my age (43) and that It was around the time of Moving Pictures that they became so influential on me as a bass player that I feel this way, but that's just my $0.02 and MHO.
For me RUSH is the best band ever...better than (prepare for gasps now) the big boys like The Stones (never understood the appeal), The Who, Zepp, and yes, even the Fab Four. Maybe because of my age (43) and that It was around the time of Moving Pictures that they became so influential on me as a bass player that I feel this way, but that's just my $0.02 and MHO.
Meh .. hard to say. People do things that surprize you everyday. So you just can't speculate on what those three will do. We all have our wishes and ideas, but only time will write the end of their story. And I think they'll know when to stop. Like many of you, Rush is huge with me. I don't have a favorite band "ever", it depends when you talk to me. But Rush certainly ranks right up there with Emerson Lake and Palmer for me. ELP, Rush, Jeff Beck .. they top the list. All for different reasons. Mostly because they aren't recognized by judgemental bodies and the mainstream. And mostly because they do what they do because they wanted to do it. Emerson's use of the Hammond and the modular synth, Geddy's outrageous bass, Peart and Palmer's unbelieveable drumming, J. Beck's off the wall use of the guitar (that matches Emerson's off the wall use of the synth) and Lifeson's out-there sounds and unconventional playing ... these people are vanguards. True genii in the face of pop culture mandane nonsense.
We can only hope that Rush will produce more greatness. If not, then we can hope for more of the unreleased live stuff (disk 3 of Different Stages is insanely good stuff. It been jammed in my CD player for the last three weeks).
Maybe we'll get really lucky and Neil will end up writing a screenplay for a 2112 movie. Or an epic fictional trilogy based on 2112, A Farewell to Kings, and Hemispheres. With CGI these days anything is possible.
But if they decide to check out after Clockwork Angels (c'mon guys, this album deserves it's full title to be written out), then as someone said we have a decent body of work to enjoy and collect.
In the end, we're just fortunate that the universe decided to put these three humans together for this reason in our time.
We can only hope that Rush will produce more greatness. If not, then we can hope for more of the unreleased live stuff (disk 3 of Different Stages is insanely good stuff. It been jammed in my CD player for the last three weeks).
Maybe we'll get really lucky and Neil will end up writing a screenplay for a 2112 movie. Or an epic fictional trilogy based on 2112, A Farewell to Kings, and Hemispheres. With CGI these days anything is possible.
But if they decide to check out after Clockwork Angels (c'mon guys, this album deserves it's full title to be written out), then as someone said we have a decent body of work to enjoy and collect.
In the end, we're just fortunate that the universe decided to put these three humans together for this reason in our time.
That clip tells me they feel the clock ticking and want to do more while they still can.
One thing I don't think anyone's talked about was the fact that this album has no instrumentals on it, which is odd for a band that usually has at least one per record, and had three on the last album alone!
Since Geddy's voice is the only real sign of aging as far as abilities go, I'd expect to see more instrumental music in the future.
In the interviews Alex actually points that out (lack of instrumental). It was purposeful, can't remember why though. Guess that aging thing is getting to a few of us!
Love the CD.
I can listen to all of it except for the first 2 (why release those just OK tunes first?)
Best stuff they have done in years IMO.
P.s. I have seen Rush likely 20 times and live in their hometown..... So I am kinda a fanboy.
I can listen to all of it except for the first 2 (why release those just OK tunes first?)
Best stuff they have done in years IMO.
P.s. I have seen Rush likely 20 times and live in their hometown..... So I am kinda a fanboy.
I've been listening to Clockwork Angels for almost a week now and cannot put it aside. It's an incredible album.
I really dig the "Fountain of Lamneth" type chord at the end of The Anarcist leading into another great track, Carnies featurring the classic Geddy vocal style of following the melody line and is pure classic Rush.
I can't say enough great things about this album that haven't already been said, It's one of their best albums period, and possibly their best since Moving Pictures.
Cannot wait to see this live in Chicago and a week later in St. Louis later on this summer.
This album far exceeds what my expectations were.
The Garden has to be the most emotive song they have ever done with a message that should be required reading for all citizens of the world....
"The measure of a life is a measure of love and respect"
11/10
I really dig the "Fountain of Lamneth" type chord at the end of The Anarcist leading into another great track, Carnies featurring the classic Geddy vocal style of following the melody line and is pure classic Rush.
I can't say enough great things about this album that haven't already been said, It's one of their best albums period, and possibly their best since Moving Pictures.
Cannot wait to see this live in Chicago and a week later in St. Louis later on this summer.
This album far exceeds what my expectations were.
The Garden has to be the most emotive song they have ever done with a message that should be required reading for all citizens of the world....
"The measure of a life is a measure of love and respect"
11/10
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