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RUSH Clockwork Angels

Im sorry about your loss.

That's not meandering nonsense.

I lost one of my dogs to a tumor last July and it still hurts to this day. Probably will for the rest of my life. I loved that dog and will never forget him.

Sorry for your loss! Not to go too off topic here but, unfortunately, we had to put our dog down a couple of weeks ago. She was only 5 and got sick suddenly, they found Lyme disease in her kidneys that was too far advanced. The next day I got an advanced copy of Clockwork Angels and heard The Garden. It really made me sad..."a measure of a life..." really fit. I work from home so I didnt realize how much I interacted with her all day and it was really rough. So every time I hear The Garden I think of my dog! :bawl:

Sorry for my meandering folks!
I don't want to wander off topic, but I felt it rude of me not to reply and thank the three of you in-forum, an acknowledgment of your comments is appropriate and quite called for. Thanks for your sympathies. I honestly appreciate it. And, I have to add that I feel for your own losses. They give us so much and ask only for a bit of food and a scratch under the chin in return for the truckloads of love and happiness they offer. We could learn much from *the givers*.

It isn't really off-topic to be honest. It's actually talking about how the music of Rush manipulates our emotions. Sure, many songs by many performers can do that. But Neil's ability to paint pictures and provide emotional imagery as well as allowing the listener to identify with certain memories and emotions is nearly peerless. His appreciation for some of the better writers and poets is well reflected in much of what he offers us in the form of his lyrics. I think that appreciation empowers him quite a bit and has provided him with the means to remain in touch with his ability to write.

He even occassionaly nods his appreciations in some of his songs. The 2nd verse of "Losing It" from Signals ... where he speaks of the glassy-eyed writer is a nod to Hemingway. ".. and he stares out the kitchen door, where the Sun will rise no more" is a direct reference to Hemingway's 1926 novel "The Sun also rises".

I think his appreciation for those great writers certainly strengthened his ability to allow the listener of his lyrics to indentify with internal memories, experiences, and emotions. Ayn Rand certainly influenced 2112. Her novella "Anthem" is most certainly a point of reference for the entire three album saga (2112, A Farewell to Kings, and Hemispheres).

So to say that how certain songs in older works of theirs, as well as The Garden, conjurs up memories -- good and bad -- is "off topic" might not be completely accurate.

Then again, it is entirely possible that this is a stretch on my part to validate the posting of how their music makes me think of our companion's passing.

In any case ... thank you. We really miss her.
 
I have always been fascinated by the complexity of Neil's written imagery, and don't think it's off topic at all. It's interesting how so many of his lyrics can be read on the surface level and enjoyed, but on the deeper level can have a much more intense profound impact on the listener. His references to literature, world events or his own life become colorful additives to his prose. Heck, I probably would have never picked up and read Ayn Rands Anthem or The Fountainhead if it had not been for Neil. So many lyricists write only really shallow, insipid songs, but we're fortunate to have someone like Neil who can make us think. Not enough of that going around these days.
 
I have always been fascinated by the complexity of Neil's written imagery, and don't think it's off topic at all. It's interesting how so many of his lyrics can be read on the surface level and enjoyed, but on the deeper level can have a much more intense profound impact on the listener. His references to literature, world events or his own life become colorful additives to his prose. Heck, I probably would have never picked up and read Ayn Rands Anthem or The Fountainhead if it had not been for Neil. So many lyricists write only really shallow, insipid songs, but we're fortunate to have someone like Neil who can make us think. Not enough of that going around these days.

Agreed...The great thing about good thought provoking deeper lyrics is that they can mean different things to different people, and everyone can be right in their interpretation.
Even Geddy, in an interview, said he talks to Neil about the words he hands him, and expresses what he thinks they mean and Neil would say "thats not what I meant when I wrote that!" So lyrics can effect us in many ways and on many levels. I've always had much respect for NP's Lyrics.
 
For me RUSH is the best band ever...better than (prepare for gasps now) the big boys like The Stones (never understood the appeal), The Who, Zepp, and yes, even the Fab Four. Maybe because of my age (43) and that It was around the time of Moving Pictures that they became so influential on me as a bass player that I feel this way, but that's just my $0.02 and MHO.

same here...even though I have Ed instead of Ged in my Avatar. And I always get the same gasps when I say that Rush trumps the above mentioned bands. People don't like to think outside the box much...
 
WOW! The whole album has grown on me!!!! The top 3 (2112, AFTK, Hemispheres) is now the top 4 (2112, AFTK, Hemispheres, Clockwork Angels). I like every song on those 3 earlier albums, and I was never that way about any other Rush album until now.
 
BassPlayer900 said:
WOW! The whole album has grown on me!!!! The top 3 (2112, AFTK, Hemispheres) is now the top 4 (2112, AFTK, Hemispheres, Clockwork Angels). I like every song on those 3 earlier albums, and I was never that way about any other Rush album until now.

I feel you. I listened to it twice again last night and its just awesome. Only weak spot to me is Wish Them Well. The Anarchist (which I didn't like on first couple listens) is becoming one of my fav Rush songs ever.
 
While the mix isn't clipping on the low end like the past couple albums have when released...the vocals for the most part are plain too quiet overall.

Rush did release the master tracks for download so you can basically "mix" your own version IIRC.

No, they released the 96/24 version on HDTracks - not the multis. I got that and I also have the CD. For lack of a better term, there are many times where I feel you have both clarity and a wet blanket syndrome at the same time. The HDTracks version is a bit better than the CD, but it's not a revelation. It's almost like Rush forgot how to make a good sounding album after T4E (which despite how you may feel about the songs on it, is the last time they had a really decent mix on a studio album).

It's a shame, really. I never got into S&A and didn't like VT much (and let's not talk about the sonics on that one - sheesh!). The songs here are generally better than the stuff on those two, but the album is nearly unlistenable to even though it doesn't clip like VT.
 
but the album is nearly unlistenable to even though it doesn't clip like VT.
I sadly agree. Personally I thought Snakes & Arrows was a step in the right direction, but they gave most of it back on this recording.

Has anyone done an A-B comparison on the version of Caravan on the album versus on the earlier EP? I haven't yet, but I feel like it sounded more punchy and clear on the EP. It's almost like that version had S&A production quality, and the version on Clockwork Angels sounds like everything else on that album.

Great music nonetheless.