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sadowsky and lakland

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by SunneyBoy, May 3, 2006.


  1. Now i have seen lots of sadowsky fans and lakland fans on this forum.

    and without starting a fight wondering if all you lads out there would like to take part in a civil debate comparing the two companies.

    i own a lakland and coulnt imagine playing anything else but that said i have never touched a sadowsky and really dont know if there is actually anyone in south africa who does play one. but i have heard great things about them .
     
  2. BigMikeW

    BigMikeW Banned

    May 25, 2005
    Nashville, TN.
    Banned by TB Administration for refusal to account for funds

    Lakland is good stuff. I just prefer the Sadowsky neck feel, tone, quality and lightwieght more. Also, I play one 5er's and prefer a 34" scale neck.
     
  3. JKwo

    JKwo

    Jan 12, 2006
    Berklee
    Yeah, I always kind of wondered what people thought in comparing the high end fender copies... specifically Sadowsky, Lakland, and Celinder, none of which have I heard anything but the highest praise for.
     
  4. bigtexashonk

    bigtexashonk Supporting Member

    I already play a Lakland Skyline Hollowbody and will be taking delivery on a Sadowsky Metro RV4 later this month. After playing several Sads it's probably going to wind up being my main go to bass, but there's no flies on the Lakland. At least I have no plans to get rid of the Lakland.
     
  5. jive1

    jive1 Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jan 16, 2003
    Alexandria,VA
    Owner/Retailer: Jive Sound
    They are both great basses from great companies.
    In terms of quality of construction, playability, and tone you can't go wrong with either. The difference is in the details, and personal preferences. For comparison purposes, I'll exclude Lakland's non-Fender-like models like the 44-02.

    - Sadowskys have some sweet preamps, and the vintage tone control comes in handy. Only Sadowsky makes em. Lakland comes passive as standard, and you can add a J-retro preamp as an option.

    - Sadowsky has their own brand of pickups, whereas Lakland uses Lindy Fralin pickups.

    - Lakland Skylines come in a limited number of finish options (2-3).

    - The Lakland Skylines are the cheapest compared to Lakland US, Sadowsky NYC, and Sadowsky Metro.

    - Sadowsky Metros and Lakland Skylines have flatsawn necks. Lakland US and Sadowsky NYC have quartsawn necks.

    - Sadowsky NYC and Lakland US have graphite reinforced necks. 5 string Lakland Skylines have reinforcement, but the 4 do not.

    - Lakland uses small vintage frets, while Sadowsky uses medium frets as standard.

    - Sadowsky NYC has a chambered body
     
  6. cheezewiz

    cheezewiz Supporting Member

    Mar 27, 2002
    Ohio
    My two favorite brands. I don't see how you can go wrong with either.
     
  7. KJung

    KJung Supporting Member

    Nice comparison and summary....

    A couple additions.... regarding pickups, the DJ model uses Aeros single coils... awesome sounding bass. Also, for the NYC's, you can request either standard hum cancelling or single coil Sadowsky pickups... nice option.

    Chambered bodies for NYC's... from my understanding, Roger only chambers the Alder bodies to hold down weight. The ash he uses is light enough to not need the chambering. However, I think this only because Roger only mentions Alder for routing on his 'whats new' page... I could be wrong. I can say for sure thought that the routing for the Alder basses is a wonderful thing.... those basses just 'float' they are so light.
     
  8. BigMikeW

    BigMikeW Banned

    May 25, 2005
    Nashville, TN.
    Banned by TB Administration for refusal to account for funds

    Yep, this baby is only 8.5 lbs.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. lefty007

    lefty007

    Jan 19, 2004
    Miami, FL
    I like Laklands because they play like silk. . . so effortlessly.

    Even if you accidentaly get a cut in one of your fingers, you could still play a half-decent riff with only one of your other plucking fingers.

    Try that with a Sadowsky. . . Not nearly as easy, my friend.
     
  10. KJung

    KJung Supporting Member


    I've owned and played a number of each brand of bass, and don't quite know what you mean. I find the playability of the 55-94 basses superb, but find the Lakland J style basses far 'chunkier' in neck profile, etc. versus the Sadowsky.... especially in the 5 string version.

    That's not necessarily a negative, but I would put playability dead even for the fours, and hands down to the Sadowsky's for the 5 string J models... of course, IMO.


    And... as I've said before... if you are looking for a late 70's 'J Bass on steroids' thing... get ye a Celinder Update!
     
  11. cheezewiz

    cheezewiz Supporting Member

    Mar 27, 2002
    Ohio
    What Ken said. I have no idea what you are talking about. Both are some of the best playing basses on the planet.
     
  12. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 21, 2006
    Denton, TX or Kailua, HI
    fEARful Kool-Aid dispensing liberal academic card-carrying union member Musicians Local 72-147
    Kevin at Sadowsky just informed me both ash and alder NYC
    Sadowskys are now chambered.

    I own 2 skylines: a 55-01 (deluxe) and a 44-01. Very very nice necks,
    and my sound guy loves 'em way more than my Jazz with Lindy Fralin
    split-coils. Go figure...:meh:

    An alder NYC Sadowsky P/J vintage 4-string is on order. I can't wait!

    -Dr. Jim
     
  13. Woodchuck

    Woodchuck

    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta (Grant Park!)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    I've owned about 5 Lakies, and they're great basses. The best one I had was the JO Skyline 5 with the J Retro. If it was 34", I'd probably still have it. Right now, my Sadowsky MS5 fits the bill for everything I need and do.
     
  14. KJung

    KJung Supporting Member

    Very cool! Thanks for the info. I always was curious... especially since I have an ash body NCY Modern 5 or order.

    K
     
  15. steveb98

    steveb98 [acct disabled - multiple aliases]

    Mar 15, 2006
    Venice, CA
    The hard part for me is getting the chance to play them. I rarely see them in stores even used. i recently played a Lakland Skyline Bob Glaub model and was disappointed. It was a real nice bass for the money, but it sure wasn't like my old '65 PBass in feel.

    Sad's I would really like to check out especially the 5-string. Interesting Sad chambers all the bodies??? On guitar chambers are usually for a fuller sound more resonance. But to hear you all talk he only does it for weight. The chamber aren't making for a fuller sound?
     
  16. mikezimmerman

    mikezimmerman Supporting Member

    Apr 29, 2001
    Omaha, Nebraska
    cheezewiz and KJung -- He's making a joking reference to BigMikeW's thread on samples of his two Sadowsky PJ's. In it, MikeBass mentioned that he recorded the samples after cutting his finger, so they're "a little sloppy". (He coulda fooled us, though--they sound great to me!)

    Mike
     
  17. KJung

    KJung Supporting Member

    From what I understand, he does it for weight. There is a picture on the website... not chambers in the classic sense, like the Rob Allen, for example. It looks like small strips of wood are routed out all over the body to remove some 'mass', and then a top is glued on. They really are lightweight, but plenty 'full sounding'. My NYC RV5 does not sound 'chambered' at all.. which IMO is a good thing.. it sounds just like the Metro version. So, if weight (or fancy top woods, etc.) aren't a big deal, the Metro's are great. However, the lighter weight was worth the extra cash to me... just wonderful... and the neck is as stiff as any I've experienced (I assume at least partially due to the graphite rods and quarter sawn maple of the NYC's).. totally stable and a great sounding low B (and 34" scale!). I also love the very wide bridge string spacing (I believe .19). That wide spacing combined with the shorter scale just feels great to me in the 5 string version.
     
  18. KJung

    KJung Supporting Member

    Ha! He had me 'hook line and sinker'... I didn't know what he was talking about:oops: Thanks for 'spilling the beans':D
     
  19. mikezimmerman

    mikezimmerman Supporting Member

    Apr 29, 2001
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Oops, sorry, it was BigMikeW's thread, not MikeBass's. It's tough to keep all us "mike" bass players straight, y'know? ;)
     
  20. KJung

    KJung Supporting Member

    I knew who you meant.... it was the guy who said I looked even whiter than he does on the MTD thread:p :eek: :smug: :eyebrow: :)
     

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