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Sadowsky bass with JJ PJ conversion

Rhodes was telling me the only real reason he does a standard P placement is muscle memory from years of playing P's.

I think one of the reasons we continue to do more traditional Ps rather than reverse is that P players are used to resting their thumb in a particular place and the reverse P is harder for them to get used to.

Roger
 
I think one of the reasons we continue to do more traditional Ps rather than reverse is that P players are used to resting their thumb in a particular place and the reverse P is harder for them to get used to.

Roger

I can absolutely see that as being a major reason. Now for me, I owned a TON of Spector PJ's. All reveresed so it is muscle memory for me. Just reversed. ;)
 
I think one of the reasons we continue to do more traditional Ps rather than reverse is that P players are used to resting their thumb in a particular place and the reverse P is harder for them to get used to.

Roger

Roger, Would you prefer the reverse P over the standard P on a 4 string PJ? I've never seen a PJ4 with reversed P.
I have a PJ on order :D with the standard P, but I might change to reverse P if the master cook thinks it's a better choice.
 
I'm tossing around the idea of having my RV5 routed to sport some PJ Pickups, possibly some Nordstrands. Would I have to get a custom-made pickguard for that, or is that something that I could simply buy stock?

ElMon, PJ basses have a different shaped pickguard and the control plate is not exactly on the same location. AFAIK, you can make a PJ conversion to JJ but not the other way around.
 
I'm tossing around the idea of having my RV5 routed to sport some PJ Pickups, possibly some Nordstrands. Would I have to get a custom-made pickguard for that, or is that something that I could simply buy stock?

Yeah Elmon, Get outta my head, I've been strongly thinking the same thing woth my MV5.

I did call the shop and it was, shall we say, highly discouraged. :hmm:

I really liked seeing that photoshop mock up, GOOD JOB Frandiaz, that puts it in perspective.:)
 
I can convert a PJ to a JJ but not the other way around. To keep a P in the right location on a J styled bass, we have to extend the pickguard closer to the bridge in order for the pickupto stay in the right location and to fit within the perimeter of the pickguard. The control plate gets shifted down as well.

That's why I can't convert a JJ to a PJ.

Roger
 
I can absolutely see that as being a major reason. Now for me, I owned a TON of Spector PJ's. All reveresed so it is muscle memory for me. Just reversed. ;)

Interesting...

for me I've only ever played traditional PJ's mostly. But, when I play them, my thumb rests on the J-pickup 80% of the time, so from a "muscle memory" standpoint, it doesn't matter much to me if the P-pickup is traditional or reversed.

and when I play P-basses (I have 2) I actually use a thumbrest most of the time...
 
I can convert a PJ to a JJ but not the other way around. To keep a P in the right location on a J styled bass, we have to extend the pickguard closer to the bridge in order for the pickupto stay in the right location and to fit within the perimeter of the pickguard. The control plate gets shifted down as well.

That's why I can't convert a JJ to a PJ.

Roger

hmmm...interesting...

I can see why for a reverse P...but is this true on a traditional P placement, as well?
 
I can convert a PJ to a JJ but not the other way around. To keep a P in the right location on a J styled bass, we have to extend the pickguard closer to the bridge in order for the pickupto stay in the right location and to fit within the perimeter of the pickguard. The control plate gets shifted down as well.
Are there any issues sonically with just moving the P pickup closer to the neck?
 
Are there any issues sonically with just moving the P pickup closer to the neck?

It would sound different, and combine differently with the J. With P-basses its location, location, location.

The other thing about the thumb position change is that you'll actually get a slightly different tone since you will be plucking an inch closer to the bridge. Could be a part of the apparent tighter B.
 
I got it too...it smokes.

And Michael Rhodes is using an amp for monitoring (of course signal to the house/board/video is by direct...actual method unknown), but I couldn't make out exactly what it is. Looks like a combo, possibly an early EA?

And Eddie Bayers just kills it on drums. He's definitely on my short list of drummers I'd give my left nut to play with.