I would consider it apples to apples since both are amp heads, like comparing Granny Smith to Gala!
Apple namenot referring to topology but instead, tonal sweetness!
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Sadowsky SA200 / NAMM
- Thread starter MrDOS
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Apple namenot referring to topology but instead, tonal sweetness!
Sadly, if you bought one, nobody in the audience would ever hear it, because some soundguy would insist you use a DI box...!
I know you're teasing with this but the direct out in this amp after the pre stage is great and captures a lot of the tone.
It's a darn versatile amp.
Yeah. It was a sarcastic post. I know nothing about the amp, but I'm sure that it sounds great, and that the speakers have a significant part to do with that.
Plug an XLR in the back, and he would quickly change his mind. I did a comparison in the studio do the DI feed from the SA200 vs a REDDI. While not an exact match, They were close enough to consider them "cousins." They both sounded wonderful.Sadly, if you bought one, nobody in the audience would ever hear it, because some soundguy would insist you use a DI box...!
I too wonder how the weight changed that significantly??? Also I believe the original selling price was $2800. I was lucky enough to also own a Sadowsky SA410. The pairing was amazing to say the least. If I was 20 yrs. younger, I never would have sold it, but the shlep up from the basement was just too much for these old bones.
I had the Sadowsky SA410, but it kept falling over face first with amp on top....wheels were placed too far in or something...made it tippy........Sold it for Bergie HT 115 and 210
Looks amazing! Love the torroidal transformers (although they might just be plastic tires). I owned an amp with one and it was one of the best sounding power sections I've ever used. Very hifi and also full range. I usually like to A/B and test my power sections with something plugged into the FX Return.
Here's my original SA200:
The cab they originally came out with was a rebranded Bergantino 410, I believe?? If I bought one of these I would be sorely tempted to match it with one of the new Bergantino HDN410s. Mind you, I would first have to sell a whole lot of gear to be in the market for it - but if I bought one then I wouldn't need the other gear.....the process of self-justification and the search for logical arguments to convince the missus clicks in......and so it begins......drool
at the time I was told the drivers were not the same as other Bergie cabs
they had a more dampened tightened response.....and did not sound as low or Big/ fat....beautiful, but not what I needed for my solid state heads....as it was designed to sound more like a sealed cab
they had a more dampened tightened response.....and did not sound as low or Big/ fat....beautiful, but not what I needed for my solid state heads....as it was designed to sound more like a sealed cab
After a run of 100 amplifiers, the SA200 was discontinued due to an unfavorable exchange rate between the dollar and the Euro........The SA200 will sell for $2995.00.
Sadly, the unfavourable exchange rate between the loonie and the dollar just discontinued my interest........ alllllmost.......
Funny, I never experienced that. Mine seemed quite stable, and that included the 45lb shock rack. As far as the SA410, it was not a rebranded Berg. Jim B made them for Sadowsky, but they differed having very tight cones built especially for tube driven amps. I played a GK500/Fusion as well as a Aguilar TH500 though it, and it didn't sound nearly as good as it did with the SA200. They actually were the inspiration for the HS Series. The boxes and tweets were basically the same, but the drivers were looser and paired much better with SS amps. I still have 2 HS210's, and they sound wonderful with a Streamliner 900. I'll tell you this, if you have the physical wherewithal to deal with the weight, it doesn't get much better than the SA200. Sadowsky still has one in the shop for customers to try basses through. This thing will look as good on stage as it does in a living room. It's a striking piece of gear in person.
Man I got to have one of these. Just come from band practice and well into a nice wine, thank goodness there isn't a buy now button up at the moment. Not sure what I would do for a speaker then. I think Bass Gear Direct in Oz might handle them, which is close enough to me in kiwiland.
That is precisely why it's possible to build this run. When the dollar got upside-down against the Euro, it became uneconomical to produce them. Things have changed.Sadly, the unfavourable exchange rate between the loonie and the dollar just discontinued my interest........ alllllmost.......
From NAMM on Thursday. There's some kind of growth on top of this one.
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The amp itself built up a reputation for its excellent sound during the first run, and pretty unanimously among those who played through it.
Yes...that unusual growth was still there Friday. That SA200 is a nice looking amp in person.
Yes. Tom B. explained back in the day that the Eden was pretty different, though. For reference's sake, here are two long threads I've found on the original run of the amp that I'm in the process of reading:
The Eagle Has Landed!!! Sadowsky All-Tube Head!!!
The Un-Official Sadowsky SA200 Thread...
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