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Same Riff, Two Basses

#41
Dr. Cheese said:
I think the Sadowsky has Circle K strings, the Peavey has light gauge Ernie Balls.
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I think they both sound great. Yes the peavey has a tone of its own but most of us bassist are use to hearing jazz and p bass tones (not a bad thing as I'm a jazz bass guy). My warmoth build should sound similar to the peavey as I'm going with two bartolini BC pickups in the same position. Hope it's sounds as good as your peavey. Your cirrus sounds so good too!
 
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#44
I really appreciate the feedback. As someone who feels like a voice in the wilderness, saying how cool Peavey basses are, it was great to find that so many of you love the Forum V's tone. I will record that Sadowsky again before I return it. I am still learning it, and it's a great bass . There will be a nice active Jazz on my future.
 
#45
The Peavey Forum I believe is an active bass, but it almost sounds passive compared to the more hyped tone of the the sadowsky. It essentially boils down to personal taste. I'd look at some 70's style active jazz basses too if you can track them down for a demo. I use youtube a lot to find tonal examples of exotic builds that I can't demo in person. If the player is decent, you can get a really good idea of how a bass sounds.
 
#46
AngelCrusher said:
The Peavey Forum I believe is an active bass, but it almost sounds passive compared to the more hyped tone of the the sadowsky. It essentially boils down to personal taste. I'd look at some 70's style active jazz basses too if you can track them down for a demo. I use youtube a lot to find tonal examples of exotic builds that I can't demo in person. If the player is decent, you can get a really good idea of how a bass sounds.
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My Forum V has an 18v, two band preamp. It is much louder than the Sadowsky I am borrowing, but you are the second experienced player to say it sounds passive compared to the Sadowsky.
 
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#47
Yeah and thats not a bad thing, but I believe the tone you are digging is a J bass on steroids kind of thing. I really love my Bartolini XTCT pre, for what its worth. I can boost it to the max and it still has a usable tone. The Sadowksy Pre, I suggest not going past 12 o clock with it. The treble gets way too harsh and the bass will wake your neighbors. But that is a boost only pre so you don't need too much.
 
#49
Dr. Cheese said:
... you are the second experienced player to say [the Peavey] sounds passive compared to the Sadowsky.
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I was surprised by that, too, in the clips. I thought the Peavey was passive because the tone didn't go as deep or as bright as the Metro, and there seemed to be a lower mid bump. Those are characterisics I associate with passive basses.
 
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#51
I'm digging the Peavey Doc! The Sadowsky sounds great, but listening with headhones I can tell there is a great deal of mid scoop going on with the Sadowsky. Not that its a bad thing (sounds great for slap & solo work) but may require a healthy boost in that area when playing in a mix so as not to get buried. I realize tone adjustments can be easily made, especially with on board pres, but as far as the way the tone is set in these two clips - I'd take the Peavey tone over the Sadowsky tone if I were going to rock it in a live environment. As always - great playing!
 
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#54
AngelCrusher said:
Yeah and thats not a bad thing, but I believe the tone you are digging is a J bass on steroids kind of thing. I really love my Bartolini XTCT pre, for what its worth. I can boost it to the max and it still has a usable tone. The Sadowksy Pre, I suggest not going past 12 o clock with it. The treble gets way too harsh and the bass will wake your neighbors. But that is a boost only pre so you don't need too much.
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Yes I do love the active Jazz vibe, but I love modern soap bars by the bridge thing too!
 
#55
To me ... the tone isn't in the hands. To me you think it is you because of your note choice, your phrasing and all that. Because the riff is really the same, the phrasing is also the same in both video but the tone is really different. The Peavy sounded thin and very focus while the J bass had a more open tone with more extra overtone that I think would go well in a rock mix.
 
#56
Dr. Cheese said:
It has VTC. I had it set for scoop, but I don't remember the exact settings.
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On a Sadowsky JJ, boost on treble & bass with 50/50 pup blend and VTC full up is the scoop. I usually run just a slight boost on treble and bass, roll off the VTC so the top isn't too bright (which has the effect of giving more in the upper mids), and slightly favor one pup or the other as the tune requires. I've found these basses to be very responsive to variation in attack (fingerstyle or slap), and where I'm plucking. In practice, I make more tonal changes with my right hand than the electronics.

Different in that regard, from other basses I've owned.
 
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#57
Clef_de_fa said:
To me ... the tone isn't in the hands. To me you think it is you because of your note choice, your phrasing and all that. Because the riff is really the same, the phrasing is also the same in both video but the tone is really different. The Peavy sounded thin and very focus while the J bass had a more open tone with more extra overtone that I think would go well in a rock mix.
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You're the first person say the Peavey sounded thin.
 

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