SansAmp Programmable Bass Driver ELITE

[tech21nyc]

There is a video in the works that should be available on our website and social media very soon.

 

[ScottyBoy]

I was hoping by now there would be some demo videos out there either by Tech 21 or by some respected Bass content creators. I'm still on the fence about this unit and whether or not it would replace my Tech 21 Fly Rig v2. Some good video demos and reviews would be a huge help.

I did get mine last week! Proceeded to sprain my wrist that night Its just sitting there looking at me! I also would like to see some demos, having never owned a sansamp, I would like to hear what others think of the tones compared to the originals. I'm sure that will come.

 

[gillento]

..... and will not have the phase and time domain components of a standard impulse response.

- Will these "phase and time domain components of a standard impulse response" (nice wording ) be an issue when no IR is being used? (This is why I am NOT using IRs.)
- If no "standard impulse response" is being used, will the well known SansAmp CAbSim be active?

 

[tech21nyc]

You have to choose a cab sim in the software. If you choose flat response there is no cab sim. As mentioned previously the cab sim in the Para Driver DI is the most flat. You could also dial in your own favorite EQ setting and make an IR out of that if you have an IR program that allows for that. I use Red Wirez Mix IR3 that has a standalone app (Mac OSX only) or can be used in most DAW's. You can combine multiple IR's, EQ modules and export as a single IR composite.

 

[wolfkeller]

I was hoping by now there would be some demo videos out there either by Tech 21 or by some respected Bass content creators. I'm still on the fence about this unit and whether or not it would replace my Tech 21 Fly Rig v2. Some good video demos and reviews would be a huge help.

Well I'd love to help everybody out but I personally am no content creator I'm a bass player and that's about as far as it goes I will say that I think this pedal is awesome glad I got it and you should too LOL

 

[gillento]

You have to choose a cab sim in the software. If you choose flat response there is no cab sim. As mentioned previously the cab sim in the Para Driver DI is the most flat. You could also dial in your own favorite EQ setting and make an IR out of that if you have an IR program that allows for that. I use Red Wirez Mix IR3 that has a standalone app (Mac OSX only) or can be used in most DAW's. You can combine multiple IR's, EQ modules and export as a single IR composite.

If I get this right, using some IR is a must?

 

[GrooveTheory]

An IR is not a “must”. you can turn it off/flat in the software. Then once you have it saved that way, it stays that way until you overwrite it.

 

[Gogoplata1980]

A IR is not a “must”. you can turn it off/flat in the software. Then once you have it, it stays that way until you overwrite it.

While you're here, kindly reply to my DM.

 

[dave_bass5]

This just came up on my timeline. Don’t know if it’s from anyone on here.

 

[Gogoplata1980]

This just came up on my timeline. Don’t know if it’s from anyone on here.

Looks like it's both from someone here and Tech21 themselves.

 

[Thom Fioriglio]

This just came up on my timeline. Don’t know if it’s from anyone on here.

That’s a Tech 21 vid!!!

 

[wolfkeller]

 

[dave_bass5]

That’s a Tech 21 vid!!!

Yeah I know. I didnt say it wasn't.

 

[Thom Fioriglio]

Yeah I know. I didnt say it wasn't.

I didn't mean to imply anything or offend you. My comment was meant simply to show excitement that Tech 21 themselves released a video.

 

[dave_bass5]

I didn't mean to imply anything or offend you. My comment was meant simply to show excitement that Tech 21 themselves released a video.

No problem, i just wanted to be clear i was aware of it. It’s all good.
Must admit that video is not really doing it for me. Not one bass tone that i would ever consider using. Obviously it’s capable of so much more, but those tones would put me off if i wasn’t aware of it. Come on Tim, let’s get a real bass player showing it off

 

[Gogoplata1980]

No problem, i just wanted to be clear i was aware of it. It’s all good.
Must admit that video is not really doing it for me. Not one bass tone that i would ever consider using. Obviously it’s capable of so much more, but those tones would put me off if i wasn’t aware of it. Come on Tim, let’s get a real bass player showing it off

I agree. Tim needs to be the one showing it off. @tech21nyc

 

[dave_bass5]

Yeah. Crazy that we have waited so long and a guitarist is the first to demo it (not that i have anything against the guitarist).

 

[Thom Fioriglio]

Ok so after watching the video again, I think I have a new way of looking at the Elite compared to the Fly Rig v2. In the Fly Rig manual, they give many setting examples to get different sounds out of it. Like Hysteria. Rather than having to remember different settings or look at the manual, the Elite already has those as presets. So no more fiddling with knobs, just tap a preset, or make your own.

So it’s kind of like a combo of my Fly Rig and Zoom B1 Four but with the signature Tech 21 sound. And it sells for less than the Fly Rig. This may actually work for me.

 

[Thom Fioriglio]

Another question for those who have this. As you go through the presets, are their wide variations in volume, or is it a consistent volume? One of the things I did not like about the Zoom B1Four, is the volume varied widely with each preset. Thanks.

Also, do you see yourself primarily using the built in presets or skipping them and just creating your own?

Thanks!

 

[GrooveTheory]

no… and yes. In studio mode, which is where the large library of sounds are, you would not care about this, but there are volume differences as you scroll through. This mode would be used “in studio” or if you’re just checking out/editing the sounds at home. So generally, it’s a one at a time situation where it doesn’t matter.

For performance mode, you save your preferred tones to the three foot switches. When you’re creating your preferred tones, you can match the volumes, or scale them for flat on switch one, low gain on switch 2, high gain on switch 3. Or what ever combo you want.

So when it counts, in performance mode, there are no volume variations if you choose to set it up that way, like any other preamp or gain-staging.

One other highly recommended tip… turn on Special Function 6: Safe level mode!!
This is not on from factory. Without it, I found making adjustments very difficult and jumpy. But once I turned it on…everything smoothed out and felt very natural, with no jumps.

I’m starting to think of the pedal as follows: the performance mode is “the pedal” not the studio mode. The performance mode is what I will be using. The studio mode is my sketch pad with essentially unlimited ways to customize my sounds. I then pick three from my sketch pad that I will be using for when I play. Its like having a shelf full of pedals(preamps/ drives and yes other effects) then picking three for your board.