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SBO 2022 - Cheaper by the Dozen - 12 String Bass

Wait, what were we talking about, I don't even
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I love the Bass Bars, I think they sound fantastic. I mounted them in the only direction that made sense to me... so that the wire leads come directly out of the pickups leading toward the wire channel.

Ah yes, I can see what you mean. It never worried me that the leads don't run in a straight line underneath the pickup. I just look at the logo and figured it has to be mounted like this.
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Guess it's the same discussion as the direction of books in a library. Which way do you tilt your head to read the title ;-)

Speaking of mounting the Lace Alumitones: How do you use the foam pads that come with these pickups? I never use them. I use a spring around each screw, because I never figured out where to put the foam...

And yes, the intonation does appear to be "off" in these pictures and that's because it was "off". :laugh: I was running up against the deadline and had to get my photos taken so that I could make my entry post for the build off. I got the bass assembled and capable of making noise, and quickly got photos taken. I ended up having enough time to get intonation set, so I made some sound clips as well for my entry. So, the final intonation looks much better than it does in the photos, no need to worry. :thumbsup:
That makes sense. I do recognise the excitement and caused impatience to show your latest build to the world.:cool:
 
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I’m still amazed by the whole 12 string thing.
I cleaned up storm damage today, did a little arching work on my tardy acoustic BO build, and came back to check this out when I needed a break.

To be honest, so am I! I've wanted one for so long and now I finally have one. It's a really addictive instrument and it's hard to convey just how big these sound. I'm not sure that I've ever heard a recording that illustrates it properly, but I think to do it right would require some live room mics, not just DI or close mic'd sounds. Sorta like you'd record a drum kit with a lot of "air".
 
Ah yes, I can see what you mean. It never worried me that the leads don't run in a straight line underneath the pickup. I just look at the logo and figured it has to be mounted like this.
tb-12-wh-body-angle-1500_orig.jpg


Guess it's the same discussion as the direction of books in a library. Which way do you tilt your head to read the title ;-)

Speaking of mounting the Lace Alumitones: How do you use the foam pads that come with these pickups? I never use them. I use a spring around each screw, because I never figured out where to put the foam...


That makes sense. I do recognise the excitement and caused impatience to show your latest build to the world.:cool:

Gorgeous bass! I agree the "Lace" logo looks more correct in the orientation that you used. I had considered trying to remove the silk screen altogether, but was afraid of damaging the surface finish of the pickup at the last moment, so I just left it alone.

I had also considered springs, but in the end I just used the foam pads that were included. I have them placed under the legs and pushed up against the end walls of the pickup cavity as firmly as possible. It actually worked out very well. I may have gotten lucky on the pickup cavity depth which allowed the foam to work properly. I feel that Lace could provide some better guidance when it comes to mounting these pickups, I had to do a few tests to be sure that it was going to work as I had hoped. :)
 
Well done Gary_M. Congratulations on a well deserved 1st place. It's a beautiful instrument for sure.
As to your pickup orientation... everyone's a critic these days. That's what you've built and done, your choices and you've knocked it out of the park in my opinion.
I love the photo of the three family members together. You have reminded me that I need to do a photo of my three basses that share their common build. The original, the fretless and my recent SBO for my Son.
 
I can't quite tell if it's the angle or not, but it looks like you accentuated the "waist" of the fretted 5 just a little more than the others?

Hey, not sure how I missed this comment! But yes, I'm sure that's true. I'd need to take some measurements, but that's totally possible that they are carved in at different depths. These are all shaped with rasps by eye so I just go with whatever looks "right" to my eye at the time. The thickness of the top plays a big part in this... and that thickness hasn't been the same twice. I think that's part of what I really enjoy with doing these hippy sammiches; every one is unique and has a good deal of variation.

I could put in a constant radius with a router bit, but I think that would take away from the more organic look and feel that I enjoy. That's also part of the reason that I'm beginning to gravitate toward lower sheen, thinner finishes. It may not make the wood super chatoyant, but it really shows the wood for what it is... open pores, inclusions, etc. Plus I feel like the notes just jump out of these two instruments that I've finished with Monocoat... it's hard to quantify and hard to describe... and I honestly don't know if this can be attributed directly to the finish or not. :)

Edited to add: Another factor is that I did modify the body shape slightly between the fretted 5 and the fretless 5... the treble side lower bout is different and the horns were angled in toward the neck... so that may be a part of the difference. :D
 
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I’m thinking a 5 string for the WBO, is there a pickup you favor? I only ask because you have multiples on the same style. I’ll probably do a 7.25” r fretboard.

I missed this comment earlier, sorry about that! Honestly, I've enjoyed all of the pickups that I've used so far, but I think if I had to choose one, it would probably be the Nordstrand big splits. They are just incredibly full and punchy in any combination. I want to try the Lace bass bars on another bass aside from the 12. They are pretty powerful and very high-fi, which is great for the 12 and I think I'd also like them on a conventional bass. :)
 
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Well done Gary_M. Congratulations on a well deserved 1st place. It's a beautiful instrument for sure.
As to your pickup orientation... everyone's a critic these days. That's what you've built and done, your choices and you've knocked it out of the park in my opinion.
I love the photo of the three family members together. You have reminded me that I need to do a photo of my three basses that share their common build. The original, the fretless and my recent SBO for my Son.

Thank you very much, that means a lot to me. :) You absolutely need a family portrait, those basses are beautiful and they deserve a group shot. :D