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Seriously, is there anything a Precision Bass Can't do?

There are certainly players who can make a P sound good. I can't do it. I attribute it to a lack of desire to dedicate time practicing on an instrument which makes me uncomfortable. I don't like any neck profile of any P bass I've played, and I don't like how my fingers make them sound. On top of that, I can't stand how they look. So...put all that together, and you have a bass that I am just not interested in. Obviously that's just my experience and my opinion, and it is no more (or less) valid and worthwhile than anyone else's.
 
bassbenj said:
Obviously, you've made a lot of loud noise here which somehow seems to have attracted a number of fans. But logical cogent thought seems to be lacking. You make a bold statement in one sentence and then directly contradict it in the next! I'm not impressed.

Sorry, a Strat DOES suck in many situations. If I'm playing something for my 12 string acoustic a Strat just ain't gonna cut it. IF I were forced to play a Strat in that situation, I know EXACTLY what I'd have to do to make it work. I'd have to totally change the STYLE OF THE MUSIC to fit the Strat if I couldn't change the guitar to fit the music! Been there. Done that. Same thing goes for bass. And oddly you make exactly the same point without saying so explicitly, by saying that a good player "can make a Strat sound good". But you are simply logically chasing your own tail. The question was can a Strat fit ALL situations, NOT can a good player always change the music to fit a Strat. Boo.

So does a P-bass do chords like my 7 string basses? Who are you kidding? Does my P-bass sound as "modern" as my Modulus? Come on. Does my passive P-bass even sound a little bit like my Deluxe Jazz V? (trick question) Yes, it does because my P-bass is a P/J! But does a straight one pickup passive P? So does the statement implying a P-bass can do everything make any sense at all? Well it does a little because a P-bass covers a LOT of ground and let's face it, I really love mine! But does it do it ALL?
Hardly.

And then you do the icing on the cake by saying you quit supporting TB because people discuss gear differences here? (However, we notice you are still posting) and then you equate anyone who comes into this thread (as I just did) criticizing a statement that P-basses do it all with people going to a CHURCH SERVICE making fun of dogma? Owning a P-bass is a religion!!?? Well, I must admit I've long said that about Fender owners, but I never heard anyone else make the statement so explicitly! So your idea of a gear discussion is a bunch of Fender sycophants fawning over P-basses so the discussion feels like going down for the third time in warm honey? This is how you think artists should be? Please.

And the final kick in the butt is you justify only owning a single bass and amp with a single sound and feel because, well, there is a list of famous players who also owned that bass? After all these years you mean to tell us you are STILL such a noob that you fall for that old marketing ploy to beginners that if you buy gear just like Joe Blow you'll be able to play just like Joe? You can't really be saying this as a serious argument, can you?

I don't think you understood a single thing I said, especially the religion comment, but for the record it's your type of attitude I have a problem with on TB. My main point is who the hell cares if someone thinks a P bass is the $hit or the $hits? Let the lovers love and say what they want in their own threads, and if you want to open up a troll thread for hating on P basses, be my guest. You'll have lots of company.
 
I own two P basses and I never use either. I much prefer the neck on my Peavey cirrus and the many extra tone variations available with an active bass. This said, I will agree with you that you can use a P for anything, however, you can use any other bass for anything and no one cares.

There are four people who pay attention to what kind of bass you are playing and it's tone, the player and the three other bass players in the audience.
 
Obviously, you've made a lot of loud noise here which somehow seems to have attracted a number of fans. But logical cogent thought seems to be lacking. You make a bold statement in one sentence and then directly contradict it in the next! I'm not impressed.

Sorry, a Strat DOES suck in many situations. If I'm playing something for my 12 string acoustic a Strat just ain't gonna cut it. IF I were forced to play a Strat in that situation, I know EXACTLY what I'd have to do to make it work. I'd have to totally change the STYLE OF THE MUSIC to fit the Strat if I couldn't change the guitar to fit the music! Been there. Done that. Same thing goes for bass. And oddly you make exactly the same point without saying so explicitly, by saying that a good player "can make a Strat sound good". But you are simply logically chasing your own tail. The question was can a Strat fit ALL situations, NOT can a good player always change the music to fit a Strat. Boo.

So does a P-bass do chords like my 7 string basses? Who are you kidding? Does my P-bass sound as "modern" as my Modulus? Come on. Does my passive P-bass even sound a little bit like my Deluxe Jazz V? (trick question) Yes, it does because my P-bass is a P/J! But does a straight one pickup passive P? So does the statement implying a P-bass can do everything make any sense at all? Well it does a little because a P-bass covers a LOT of ground and let's face it, I really love mine! But does it do it ALL?
Hardly.

And then you do the icing on the cake by saying you quit supporting TB because people discuss gear differences here? (However, we notice you are still posting) and then you equate anyone who comes into this thread (as I just did) criticizing a statement that P-basses do it all with people going to a CHURCH SERVICE making fun of dogma? Owning a P-bass is a religion!!?? Well, I must admit I've long said that about Fender owners, but I never heard anyone else make the statement so explicitly! So your idea of a gear discussion is a bunch of Fender sycophants fawning over P-basses so the discussion feels like going down for the third time in warm honey? This is how you think artists should be? Please.

And the final kick in the butt is you justify only owning a single bass and amp with a single sound and feel because, well, there is a list of famous players who also owned that bass? After all these years you mean to tell us you are STILL such a noob that you fall for that old marketing ploy to beginners that if you buy gear just like Joe Blow you'll be able to play just like Joe? You can't really be saying this as a serious argument, can you?

Might I suggest re-reading the posts in question? I respectfully suggest that you are not gathering the information correctly and/or are not garnering a proper gestalt of the arguments being put forth. It would seem, rather, that you are taking a few sentences out of context, and twisting them into a fallacious statement by Mr. Mason.
 
davidgoldman said:
There are four people who pay attention to what kind of bass you are playing and it's tone, the player and the three other bass players in the audience.

Ain't that the truth. This made me smile to myself ... so true ... sad, but true.

Yet, those four people REALLY pay attention ... sometimes to the point of not really paying attention to the music ... weird world :-)
 
There are four people who pay attention to what kind of bass you are playing and it's tone, the player and the three other bass players in the audience.
Very very true.. IMHO the only time varying the tone makes much of a difference is when recording. I usually just get a good fat solid sound, and the use my right hand position to vary what I need. However I have found that certain basses allow me too compensate for room acoustics easier than fiddling with the amp. Especially at a jam where for one thing I can not see the controls as easily ( I am 52) and for another I do not like messing with other peoples amps. YMMV
 
I own two P basses and I never use either. I much prefer the neck on my Peavey cirrus and the many extra tone variations available with an active bass. This said, I will agree with you that you can use a P for anything, however, you can use any other bass for anything and no one cares.

There are four people who pay attention to what kind of bass you are playing and it's tone, the player and the three other bass players in the audience.
While true, people are a lot more savvy than musicians ever like to give credit, and they know bad sound from good sound for sure. And playing to the least musically savvy people in the audience has never been my bag.
 
tekdiver500ft said:
Might I suggest re-reading the posts in question? I respectfully suggest that you are not gathering the information correctly and/or are not garnering a proper gestalt of the arguments being put forth. It would seem, rather, that you are taking a few sentences out of context, and twisting them into a fallacious statement by Mr. Mason.

I think maybe he was typing too loudly to be able to concentrate on what I was trying to say. That's ok, whatevah...
 
Seriously, I couldn't agree with you more. I gradually sold every other bass I had and settled on this one.

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Nothing like bumping a 10 year old post back to life! I am the opposite, I cant keep a P bass. I have wanted to love a p bass, I have bought 2 fender p basses, play them for a short time then sell it. Same with 2 fender jazz, I have bought one, wanting to love the sound, then sell it. I am GASSING for something else,
 
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Slap bass, classic rock, metal, reggae, punk, hard rock, R&B, Gospel, Jazz, and what else do I play, oh yeah, experemental crap, out of all my Basses, I always grab my Precision bass first and I often wonder why I keep my other basses if this is the only bass I really use (poor fretless).

I just cannot fathom how a stupid bass with just one tone and one volume knob can be so versitile! I use this thing for everything.

I play right on the neck for reggea with the thumb and the tone knob at zero for deep reggea, or play with a pick at the bridge for punk and play fingerstyle right over the pick up in Gospel with minor adjustments with the tone knob respectfully.

It just amazes me how something so simple can be so versitile. And the way it sits in the mix, so warm and fat. The precision just fits like a glove when I hold her. I honestly wish I could have been there when they was designing this bass to see how they came up with this.

Also, Precision basses don't hummmmmm or buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!! Something in which I hatefully despise!

Damn, just plug the thing in and play man!

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It'll never have the piano like tones of an Alembic
 
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Sitting in its case or on a stand, it can't do anything except look nice.

The real question is whether there's anything me or you or any player can't do with a Precision Bass.

I've lived through enough 'you can't do THAT on one of THOSE' wrong opinions where actually THAT guy DID THAT on that bass that I would have never believed. . . . but had my nose rubbed in it, I was that wrong.

When I worked retail, we had a great local slap player, back when that was not all that common, and this guy could make one walk and talk. We always had music playing in the store, and he walked in one day, 'Roundabout' (a new record in those days) was playing, and he stopped dead in his tracks listening to Squire and wanting to know who that was, the record, etc.

He comes back a week later, wants to know if we've got that record still, and put it back on. He grabs a nice 335-style EB we'd just taken in trade, strings dead as can be, and slaps through a letter-perfect 'Roundabout' along with the record. Not funk at all, he'd learned Squire's part perfectly, and tone-wise, on that dead sounding axe (they weren't real bright to begin with), you'd have sworn he was playing a Ric or a Jazz. Slap was a perfect equivalent for that tone.

Right then is where it was burnt in my brain, it's the player, not the axe. In spades.