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Seriously, is there anything a Precision Bass Can't do?

Oh I don't know, let's take a look.:D
Trumpet Discussion - Page 8
A good trumpet player will get a good instrument and learn to work on other things to get his tone to change. Doesn't mean he won't hav a Flugle horn or another trumpet or two in his arsenal. It certainly doesn't mean he won't use a different mouthpiece to get different timbres out of the instrument either. But honestly, I think bass players are about the worst I've ever seen about constantly trying to prove to others that the bass they like is so versatile. It's just a silly argument IMHO. YMMV.
 
Eublet said:
Not to rag on the OP or anyone else, but I think these kinds of threads are silly. The reason some folks think P basses are so versatile is because they like them. You don't hear trumpet players waxing poetic about how versatile their Stadivarius is. "My trumpet works in jazz, classical, funk, pop...etc." It would sound rather silly for one to do that. Same thing applies to basses. The P is no more versatile than a jazz or anything else. If you like the sound of a P bass, then you will probably like it in any style of music. It's really that simple.

Now, that doesn't mean others will like it in that context.

I don't disagree but the reason why P players say this is because so many non-P players talk about how non-versatile the P bass is. How it has no low end and therefore shouldn't have been used live by Dave Holland, etc. How they sold their P bass and bought a Jazz because the P just wasn't versatile enough, because it only has one pickup and passive electronics. I've heard it all, and the situation you described with a hypothetical trumpet player actually fit the P bass analogy really well: one simple horn, many styles. The reason you don't hear trumpet players go on about it is because no one is bitching about how their trumpet only has three keys and no pickups, and no one is telling trumpet players that their horn sucks because it only has three keys and no pickups.

However, *every* instrument has gear sluts... Even the trumpet. And every instrument has gear snobs - On TB I've seen SX players poo-poo everything from Jay Turser basses to Sadowsky's, so the snobbery is by no means limited to the boutique bandwagon or the Fender bandwagon or the Precision bandwagon Jazz bandwagon or the Lakland bandwagon. Extended range versus what Jaco used. Relic versus pristine. Vintage versus brand new. When we talk strings, we get the same BS between flats and rounds, and when we talk amps we get the same BS between tubes/solid state/hybrid/class D, weight, Ampeg, Markbass, GK, Fearful, combos of doom/810s, ad nauseum.

I got sick of this on TB and stopped being a supporting member. Then I stopped reading for many months. I peeked back a couple of weeks ago out of curiosity, and it's the same BS.

My Fender P is awesome. It's the sixth or seventh one I've owned, and I love it. I've also owned a couple of Jazz basses, Squiers, MIM, etc. and played a Peavey Patriot almost exclusively for 22 years. I've played many others. I've owned several Traynors, Peaveys, a GK, a couple of Markbass amps and gigged many others including Fender, Ampeg, and straight to the board. I've played rounds, then flats, then rounds, then flats, then rounds on some basses and flats on others and am currently flats on my only two remaining basses. I've boosted bass, boosted mids, gone flat, dialed in contour and presence and dialed it out. Wanna know a secret? Outside of the small musician subculture, all of the differences are moot because NOBODY CARES!! To any non-musician (except spouses and girlfriends) they ALL SOUND THE SAME! And even to many musicians! Including bass players!! Get over it!

Where's the Tylenol???
 
Wanna know a secret? Outside of the small musician subculture, all of the differences are moot because NOBODY CARES!! To any non-musician (except spouses and girlfriends) they ALL SOUND THE SAME! And even to many musicians! Including bass players!! Get over it!

Where's the Tylenol???

Well said, Bill!

I play a bunch of different basses because it's FUN to play a bunch of different basses, but the truth is it all sounds the same to me, too! I'm wearing cheesy little in-ears most of the time anyway...
 
I don't disagree but the reason why P players say this is because so many non-P players talk about how non-versatile the P bass is. How it has no low end and therefore shouldn't have been used live by Dave Holland, etc. How they sold their P bass and bought a Jazz because the P just wasn't versatile enough, because it only has one pickup and passive electronics. I've heard it all, and the situation you described with a hypothetical trumpet player actually fit the P bass analogy really well: one simple horn, many styles. The reason you don't hear trumpet players go on about it is because no one is bitching about how their trumpet only has three keys and no pickups, and no one is telling trumpet players that their horn sucks because it only has three keys and no pickups.

However, *every* instrument has gear sluts... Even the trumpet. And every instrument has gear snobs - On TB I've seen SX players poo-poo everything from Jay Turser basses to Sadowsky's, so the snobbery is by no means limited to the boutique bandwagon or the Fender bandwagon or the Precision bandwagon Jazz bandwagon or the Lakland bandwagon. Extended range versus what Jaco used. Relic versus pristine. Vintage versus brand new. When we talk strings, we get the same BS between flats and rounds, and when we talk amps we get the same BS between tubes/solid state/hybrid/class D, weight, Ampeg, Markbass, GK, Fearful, combos of doom/810s, ad nauseum.

I got sick of this on TB and stopped being a supporting member. Then I stopped reading for many months. I peeked back a couple of weeks ago out of curiosity, and it's the same BS.

My Fender P is awesome. It's the sixth or seventh one I've owned, and I love it. I've also owned a couple of Jazz basses, Squiers, MIM, etc. and played a Peavey Patriot almost exclusively for 22 years. I've played many others. I've owned several Traynors, Peaveys, a GK, a couple of Markbass amps and gigged many others including Fender, Ampeg, and straight to the board. I've played rounds, then flats, then rounds, then flats, then rounds on some basses and flats on others and am currently flats on my only two remaining basses. I've boosted bass, boosted mids, gone flat, dialed in contour and presence and dialed it out. Wanna know a secret? Outside of the small musician subculture, all of the differences are moot because NOBODY CARES!! To any non-musician (except spouses and girlfriends) they ALL SOUND THE SAME! And even to many musicians! Including bass players!! Get over it!

Where's the Tylenol???


when you are right, you're right! Nicely said and I agree 100%.
 
I don't disagree but the reason why P players say this is because so many non-P players talk about how non-versatile the P bass is. How it has no low end and therefore shouldn't have been used live by Dave Holland, etc. How they sold their P bass and bought a Jazz because the P just wasn't versatile enough, because it only has one pickup and passive electronics. I've heard it all, and the situation you described with a hypothetical trumpet player actually fit the P bass analogy really well: one simple horn, many styles. The reason you don't hear trumpet players go on about it is because no one is bitching about how their trumpet only has three keys and no pickups, and no one is telling trumpet players that their horn sucks because it only has three keys and no pickups.

However, *every* instrument has gear sluts... Even the trumpet. And every instrument has gear snobs - On TB I've seen SX players poo-poo everything from Jay Turser basses to Sadowsky's, so the snobbery is by no means limited to the boutique bandwagon or the Fender bandwagon or the Precision bandwagon Jazz bandwagon or the Lakland bandwagon. Extended range versus what Jaco used. Relic versus pristine. Vintage versus brand new. When we talk strings, we get the same BS between flats and rounds, and when we talk amps we get the same BS between tubes/solid state/hybrid/class D, weight, Ampeg, Markbass, GK, Fearful, combos of doom/810s, ad nauseum.

I got sick of this on TB and stopped being a supporting member. Then I stopped reading for many months. I peeked back a couple of weeks ago out of curiosity, and it's the same BS.

My Fender P is awesome. It's the sixth or seventh one I've owned, and I love it. I've also owned a couple of Jazz basses, Squiers, MIM, etc. and played a Peavey Patriot almost exclusively for 22 years. I've played many others. I've owned several Traynors, Peaveys, a GK, a couple of Markbass amps and gigged many others including Fender, Ampeg, and straight to the board. I've played rounds, then flats, then rounds, then flats, then rounds on some basses and flats on others and am currently flats on my only two remaining basses. I've boosted bass, boosted mids, gone flat, dialed in contour and presence and dialed it out. Wanna know a secret? Outside of the small musician subculture, all of the differences are moot because NOBODY CARES!! To any non-musician (except spouses and girlfriends) they ALL SOUND THE SAME! And even to many musicians! Including bass players!! Get over it!

Where's the Tylenol???

I friggin love it!!!!
Somebody give this guy a cigar...
 
I don't disagree but the reason why P players say this is because so many non-P players talk about how non-versatile the P bass is. How it has no low end and therefore shouldn't have been used live by Dave Holland, etc. How they sold their P bass and bought a Jazz because the P just wasn't versatile enough, because it only has one pickup and passive electronics. I've heard it all, and the situation you described with a hypothetical trumpet player actually fit the P bass analogy really well: one simple horn, many styles. The reason you don't hear trumpet players go on about it is because no one is bitching about how their trumpet only has three keys and no pickups, and no one is telling trumpet players that their horn sucks because it only has three keys and no pickups.

However, *every* instrument has gear sluts... Even the trumpet. And every instrument has gear snobs - On TB I've seen SX players poo-poo everything from Jay Turser basses to Sadowsky's, so the snobbery is by no means limited to the boutique bandwagon or the Fender bandwagon or the Precision bandwagon Jazz bandwagon or the Lakland bandwagon. Extended range versus what Jaco used. Relic versus pristine. Vintage versus brand new. When we talk strings, we get the same BS between flats and rounds, and when we talk amps we get the same BS between tubes/solid state/hybrid/class D, weight, Ampeg, Markbass, GK, Fearful, combos of doom/810s, ad nauseum.

I got sick of this on TB and stopped being a supporting member. Then I stopped reading for many months. I peeked back a couple of weeks ago out of curiosity, and it's the same BS.

My Fender P is awesome. It's the sixth or seventh one I've owned, and I love it. I've also owned a couple of Jazz basses, Squiers, MIM, etc. and played a Peavey Patriot almost exclusively for 22 years. I've played many others. I've owned several Traynors, Peaveys, a GK, a couple of Markbass amps and gigged many others including Fender, Ampeg, and straight to the board. I've played rounds, then flats, then rounds, then flats, then rounds on some basses and flats on others and am currently flats on my only two remaining basses. I've boosted bass, boosted mids, gone flat, dialed in contour and presence and dialed it out. Wanna know a secret? Outside of the small musician subculture, all of the differences are moot because NOBODY CARES!! To any non-musician (except spouses and girlfriends) they ALL SOUND THE SAME! And even to many musicians! Including bass players!! Get over it!

Where's the Tylenol???

I'd make this my sig but it wont' fit. :D
 
BillMason said:
I don't disagree but the reason why P players say this is because so many non-P players talk about how non-versatile the P bass is. How it has no low end and therefore shouldn't have been used live by Dave Holland, etc. How they sold their P bass and bought a Jazz because the P just wasn't versatile enough, because it only has one pickup and passive electronics. I've heard it all, and the situation you described with a hypothetical trumpet player actually fit the P bass analogy really well: one simple horn, many styles. The reason you don't hear trumpet players go on about it is because no one is bitching about how their trumpet only has three keys and no pickups, and no one is telling trumpet players that their horn sucks because it only has three keys and no pickups.

However, *every* instrument has gear sluts... Even the trumpet. And every instrument has gear snobs - On TB I've seen SX players poo-poo everything from Jay Turser basses to Sadowsky's, so the snobbery is by no means limited to the boutique bandwagon or the Fender bandwagon or the Precision bandwagon Jazz bandwagon or the Lakland bandwagon. Extended range versus what Jaco used. Relic versus pristine. Vintage versus brand new. When we talk strings, we get the same BS between flats and rounds, and when we talk amps we get the same BS between tubes/solid state/hybrid/class D, weight, Ampeg, Markbass, GK, Fearful, combos of doom/810s, ad nauseum.

I got sick of this on TB and stopped being a supporting member. Then I stopped reading for many months. I peeked back a couple of weeks ago out of curiosity, and it's the same BS.

My Fender P is awesome. It's the sixth or seventh one I've owned, and I love it. I've also owned a couple of Jazz basses, Squiers, MIM, etc. and played a Peavey Patriot almost exclusively for 22 years. I've played many others. I've owned several Traynors, Peaveys, a GK, a couple of Markbass amps and gigged many others including Fender, Ampeg, and straight to the board. I've played rounds, then flats, then rounds, then flats, then rounds on some basses and flats on others and am currently flats on my only two remaining basses. I've boosted bass, boosted mids, gone flat, dialed in contour and presence and dialed it out. Wanna know a secret? Outside of the small musician subculture, all of the differences are moot because NOBODY CARES!! To any non-musician (except spouses and girlfriends) they ALL SOUND THE SAME! And even to many musicians! Including bass players!! Get over it!

Where's the Tylenol???

I :) didn't say it shouldn't have been used by Dave Holland. There were limited choices then. What I did say was that it showed why later basses with greater low end became the choice in that type of music. See some of us and it's a choice wouldn't go back to using a 2x12 Fender Bassman piggyback rig. Why? We heard its limits then. If you want to go vintage go ahead I just love the evolution. Meanwhile I said I have both ri '51 & '57 and play them home, studio and live. Can't label me can you? :)
 
BillMason said:
I don't disagree but the reason why P players say this is because so many non-P players talk about how non-versatile the P bass is. How it has no low end and therefore shouldn't have been used live by Dave Holland, etc. How they sold their P bass and bought a Jazz because the P just wasn't versatile enough, because it only has one pickup and passive electronics. I've heard it all, and the situation you described with a hypothetical trumpet player actually fit the P bass analogy really well: one simple horn, many styles. The reason you don't hear trumpet players go on about it is because no one is bitching about how their trumpet only has three keys and no pickups, and no one is telling trumpet players that their horn sucks because it only has three keys and no pickups.

However, *every* instrument has gear sluts... Even the trumpet. And every instrument has gear snobs - On TB I've seen SX players poo-poo everything from Jay Turser basses to Sadowsky's, so the snobbery is by no means limited to the boutique bandwagon or the Fender bandwagon or the Precision bandwagon Jazz bandwagon or the Lakland bandwagon. Extended range versus what Jaco used. Relic versus pristine. Vintage versus brand new. When we talk strings, we get the same BS between flats and rounds, and when we talk amps we get the same BS between tubes/solid state/hybrid/class D, weight, Ampeg, Markbass, GK, Fearful, combos of doom/810s, ad nauseum.

I got sick of this on TB and stopped being a supporting member. Then I stopped reading for many months. I peeked back a couple of weeks ago out of curiosity, and it's the same BS.

My Fender P is awesome. It's the sixth or seventh one I've owned, and I love it. I've also owned a couple of Jazz basses, Squiers, MIM, etc. and played a Peavey Patriot almost exclusively for 22 years. I've played many others. I've owned several Traynors, Peaveys, a GK, a couple of Markbass amps and gigged many others including Fender, Ampeg, and straight to the board. I've played rounds, then flats, then rounds, then flats, then rounds on some basses and flats on others and am currently flats on my only two remaining basses. I've boosted bass, boosted mids, gone flat, dialed in contour and presence and dialed it out. Wanna know a secret? Outside of the small musician subculture, all of the differences are moot because NOBODY CARES!! To any non-musician (except spouses and girlfriends) they ALL SOUND THE SAME! And even to many musicians! Including bass players!! Get over it!

Where's the Tylenol???

Im with this guy. Next time u play a gig and someone compliments your band, ask them is there anything a p bass cant do? ;)
 
I have nothing against honest discussion, but this is just trolling :rollno:

Over and out.

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