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SG & EB Bass Club

Hope everyone is having a great weekend!. Here is a picture of Geezer Butler using an SG style bass. But what brand is it?. Invalid Link Removed According to a few comments posted this is not a Gibson.
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That is beautiful Dude!, only an SG body can make the color brown cool. Is that completely original?. That bridge throws me off.

That's the 1960s Gibson two-point bass bridge, used from roughly 1966 to 1973. It was Gibson's first adjustable bass bridge. Its main weakness is that it's held in place only by two hex screws and was known to sometimes tilt forward or even fall off. The three-point bridge, introduced about 1973 and used on SG basses until just a few years ago, was an improvement, but still not that great. Gibson now uses Babicz full-contact bridges on SG basses. Hipshot has full-contact bridges that are drop-in replacements for the old two- and three-point bridges.
 
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That is beautiful Dude!, only an SG body can make the color brown cool. Is that completely original?. That bridge throws me off.
Yes in this pic it is all original. Found it online on Music-go-round for $1k.
I had to make a decision about this apparently under-priced vintage bass from photos only. TB-ers came to my rescue. Folks like @ajkula66 who had recent ownership experience helped me eval what turned out to be cosmetic only defects and decide to roll the dice. I even heard from a TB-er who had played the bass himself in that store in Texas (I'm in CA).
I won big as this fully intact '68 bass is superior to examples that would have cost me 100% more!
The seller had no clue apparently.
This place ROCKS! IMHO.

only an SG body can make the color brown cool. Is that completely original?.

BTW, this bass is not brown but aged cherry. Apparently the red fades to brown-ish red after 45+ years in the field.
 
That's the 1960s Gibson two-point bass bridge, used from roughly 1966 to 1973. It was Gibson's first adjustable bass bridge. Its main weakness is that it's held in place only by two hex screws and was known to sometimes tilt forward or even fall off. The three-point bridge, introduced about 1973 and used on SG basses until just a few years ago, was an improvement, but still not that great. Gibson now uses Babicz full-contact bridges on SG basses. Hipshot has full-contact bridges that are drop-in replacements for the old two- and three-point bridges.

What a lot of folks don't realize is the fact that the two-point (Tilt-O-Matic) bridge with the mute assembly - like the one seen on @ghostinthemach 's EB-3 pictured above - is just as stable as the three-point. Without the mute, not so much...speaking of which, if that gorgeous bass were mine, I'd make sure to get the felt that is missing from the mute assembly, but that's me...

Both of my EBs have Hipshot Supertone 2-point bridges and they are a thing of beauty, IMO. Having said that, had either of them come with the mute assembly I would've left it alone.
 
Both of my EBs have Hipshot Supertone 2-point bridges and they are a thing of beauty, IMO. Having said that, had either of them come with the mute assembly I would've left it alone.
I agree wholeheartedly but, I use the mute on about 40-50% of the songs in the band I bought the bass for. After working with the factory mute for a while I realized that to get the level of muting I needed it required enough pressure to push the strings out of tune.
Going back and forth during a set wasn't practical. Since I couldn't make use of the factory mute I had to remove it to be able to use my other quickly removable mutes, so it was then logical to replace the bridge as well with the updated Hipshot.
 
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I agree wholeheartedly but, I use the mute on about 40-50% of the songs in the band I bought the bass for. After working with the factory mute for a while I realized that to get the level of muting I needed it required enough pressure to push the strings out of tune.
Going back and forth during a set wasn't practical. Since I couldn't make use of the factory mute I had to remove it to be able to use my other quickly removable mutes, so it was then logical to replace the bridge as well with the updated Hipshot.

An easy solution: buy another EB and use it for 50% of the songs that don't require a mute while keeping the current one muted with the original assembly at all times for the other 50%...:D