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Shades of Billie Eilish
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How do you get that out of "YMSK"? Did you ever read the lyrics(which there isn't much of, the verses essentially repeat with a little variation). If anything, it was a show of respect to the previous generation and music. The "though she was born a long long time ago" line was Paul poking fun at the inclination of kids to think that a parent, say at around 40 or so, would be ancient and not be clued in. McCartney was unabashedly a big fan of music from the 20's/30's/40's, so much so that Lennon would complain about "Paul's granny music" when McCartney would bring in stuff like "When I'm 64", "Lady Madonna", and "Honey Pie". As his mother died young, it was his tribute to her memory and music, "lift up your hearts, and sing me a song..." He was in fact chiding his own general age group/boomer fans for their ageism. On a technical note, Paul, being born in 1942, is not a boomer, but at the tail end of the so-called "silent generation". His(and his contemporaries) parents were roughly the depression/WW2/ "greatest generation".
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A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I got a gal in Kalamazoo...
Looks like Lou Costello on bass and the lead male singer looks like Lurch from The Addams Family:
I would swear that's Caesar Romero on the piano and Jackie Gleason on bass. Check out his "technique".
Looks like Lou Costello on bass and the lead male singer looks like Lurch from The Addams Family:
I would swear that's Caesar Romero on the piano and Jackie Gleason on bass. Check out his "technique".
I, for one, think the weirdest thing about the CL ad is that someone writes the OP to ask who Steely Dan were instead of simply looking them up on Wikipedia."Let me google that for you" and all that.
Not knowing something is fine. Not knowing how to look something up is not.
It makes for a good story, just like the often told McCartney one.
I'm admittedly skeptical. And I've heard the McCartney joke from so many comedians over the last few decades I've lost track.
Some folks seem to almost be proud of not knowing things. It's an interesting occurrence, particularly in these times.
What year?
And does it? Most music "awards" are complete rubbish. Worthless participation ribbons handed out by old men to those whose names they can remember.
Great question. Was it 40 years ago? Not even close. Things happen even when some aren't paying attention. That's not necessarily a reflection on the thing.
And to piggyback on a recurring question, why would you ask what year when you have the internet at your fingertips?
As to whether AOTY tends to be noteworthy, yes, it does. Your low opinion notwithstanding.
Because it is such little import that one would have to look it up.
It isn't just my opinion. The general consensus among musicians is that awards like the Grammys are a giant circle jerk of self adulation. They name off people that are well known today, or names that sound familiar from the past. They aren't considered any sort if gold standard for quality. Much as the Oscars aren't any sort of real measure of quality. It is just a marketing campaign to sell consumers stuff.
re: steely dan--
i'd like to see/hear a steely dan tribute act sometime. i like SD and their music but i'm not fanatic, maybe not even a 'huge fan'. even though they fit my generational slot i've played a lot more jazz than rock, so i have figured them into my list of 'bands i like but whose music i don't play'. in my jazz band: the other cats really like them and regularly suggest SD tunes for us to play (we're instrumental) but i haven't taken the time to work on a good arrangement. maybe i will. josie might be a good choice as an instrumental.
per the OP: in spite of the chatter we've had about your CL experience and our take on SD, i wish you much luck getting your project up and running. break a leg!
i'd like to see/hear a steely dan tribute act sometime. i like SD and their music but i'm not fanatic, maybe not even a 'huge fan'. even though they fit my generational slot i've played a lot more jazz than rock, so i have figured them into my list of 'bands i like but whose music i don't play'. in my jazz band: the other cats really like them and regularly suggest SD tunes for us to play (we're instrumental) but i haven't taken the time to work on a good arrangement. maybe i will. josie might be a good choice as an instrumental.
per the OP: in spite of the chatter we've had about your CL experience and our take on SD, i wish you much luck getting your project up and running. break a leg!
Much like who Steely Dan is. So instead of speaking knowledgeably you guessed that 40 years had passed. Which was way off. Accuracy is not worth the effort.
And selling stuff to consumers is of no value.
What this tries to obscure is that you're speaking on a subject you really aren't well versed in. It happens, though I'm not sure why people are comfortable doing that. Steely Dan had two major releases in the last twenty years that some seem unaware of and even dismissive. Not the 1980's.
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The Academy has the tendency to give out awards to artists they randomly remember, or to make up for past misses. There 2001 win obviously one of these. So a pat on the head 20 years ago still doesn't make them culturally relevant.Much like who Steely Dan is. So instead of speaking knowledgeably you guessed that 40 years had passed. Which was way off. Accuracy is not worth the effort.
And selling stuff to consumers is of no value.
What this tries to obscure is that you're speaking on a subject you really aren't well versed in. It happens, though I'm not sure why people are comfortable doing that. Steely Dan had two major releases in the last twenty years that seem unaware of and then dismissive. Not the 1980's.
Let's not forget this is the same brilliant group that gave a decidedly not metal band, Jethro Tull, a metal Grammy instead of Metallica. They drop the ball all the time.
And if you want to go down that road, fine. Miss Eilish and her producer brother won 10 Grammys this year. Including album of the year. So, if that is any sort of actual yard stick, she is as talented a musician as the guys in Steely Dan.
Taylor Swift and Adele even more so because they have both won AOTY twice in 10 years.
Arcade Fire won in 2011.
Do we need any more proof the the Grammys are a dumpster fire?
So you are saying it was a troll, not an honest question? Very possibly so.I'm admittedly skeptical. And I've heard the McCartney joke from so many comedians over the last few decades I've lost track.
It's very bad on Quora. It's so frequent there that I have started feeling like it is not trolling, but rather people want the Cliff's Notes version of everything, so instead of reading the Wiki they ask on Quora.
Right on both counts. Caesar Romero is credited:
Orchestra Wives (1942) - Full Cast & Crew - IMDb
Gleason is not:
Orchestra Wives - Wikipedia
Wow...relax there. Yes, I know he was a big fan of music from the 20s/30s/40s.
Paul was born about 3 years after my dad. So yes, I didn't say he was a boomer, but he definitely took a light-hearted jab at the elderlies in that song.
What ten Grammy categories did they win? Accuracy seems to be an ongoing struggle.
So a Grammy win means that work can't be noteworthy? Sweet.
I don't know if it was a troll, hell, I don't know if the entire thing actually happened. It sounds suspect... but I just had someone ask me a simple question that would've taken far less time to google so...
