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Shortscale headless ???

Find a used Kramer Duke bass. Real nice and fairly light. Headless and 4 strings.

Make sure the neck is not wrapped because it has an alumimun neck and there's no truss rod.

Yup. I owned a nice one of these. Flew from Boston to Dallas with it. They are a solidly built bass, 30" scale, usually come with a Schaller bridge and pickup along with Grover tuners mounted into a routed area in the body. Many have been beat to c&*p but if you find a good one, you have a nice bass that is about as compact as anything can be. It is a tiny bass that can hold it's own in many real performing situations as long as you dont mind the Steinberger style appearance.

Peace,
S
 
Yup. I owned a nice one of these. Flew from Boston to Dallas with it. They are a solidly built bass, 30" scale, usually come with a Schaller bridge and pickup along with Grover tuners mounted into a routed area in the body. Many have been beat to c&*p but if you find a good one, you have a nice bass that is about as compact as anything can be. It is a tiny bass that can hold it's own in many real performing situations as long as you dont mind the Steinberger style appearance.

Peace,
S
Ditto, and usually about $US350 in nice condition.
Though it's 30.5" scale, it's only maybe an inch or so shorter than a n XL2 type Steinberger or clone, which are 38.5" long according to the Musicyo site.
 
I know the Duke Bass but didn't know that it was built as a short scale. Thanks for the info. I'll definetly look for it. I also want to check out the Traveler MK-II. I found out it's distributed in Germany by Pro Arte Acoustics in Kirchheim/Germany.
 
also the shamray p-00, is headless and 30" with 27 frets and built like a tank, ebony fingerboard, emg dc35 pickup and later I upgraded it with a seymour duncan hot stack, and I am very happy with it¡

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but, perhaps in future, I will let it go, too many basses in my life...

regards
 
also the shamray p-00, is headless and 30" with 27 frets and built like a tank, ebony fingerboard, emg dc35 pickup and later I upgraded it with a seymour duncan hot stack, and I am very happy with it¡

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but, perhaps in future, I will let it go, too many basses in my life...

regards
Wow. That one looks great ! What's the size/weight and how does it sound ? Do you need doubleball strings for this ?
 
How about this chap?

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Short scale, tuned a-c and complete with built-in octaver! :bassist:

Ridiculous.
 
You could buy a Steinberg spirit and cut the neck at any suitable fret:D

I built one on that concept some time ago: short scale, "no" body. It came out nicely. 764mm scale birch neck, fret free, spruce "body", MM pup and ABM headless gear. Even built a (very!!!) simple headphone amp into it.
Works quite well, and is very nice to carry around. The perfect case for it is a padded and compressed PVC pipe.

It would be neck heavy, with ordinary strapping, but OTOH, I haven't used that for 8 years (except on the bassLab).

What's your take?:bassist:
 
Since I recently bought a Piccolo4 shortscale built by the german luthier Johannes-Dieter von Paris, I totally fell in love with it's punchy, percussive sound and it's incredible playability. It's like all speed limits had been removed and fast licks and wide finger sets are almost effortless to play now. I'm addicted !
Does this luthier still build? I took a second look at your pics of the Piccolo and that design with the head removed and some of the ABM/Status rail tuners would fit perfectly. I'll have one too please.
 
Does this luthier still build? I took a second look at your pics of the Piccolo and that design with the head removed and some of the ABM/Status rail tuners would fit perfectly. I'll have one too please.
Yes, he does. His name ist Johannes-Dieter von Paris and he has been working as a master luthier at Schack Guitars in Frankfurft before he founded his own business. His website can be found at Link Removed . (btw: you'll find my piccolo4 on his website too). Since he prefer's to spend most of his time building instruments, he didn't provide any email and prefers to be contacted by phone (listed on his website).
 
Yes, he does. His name ist Johannes-Dieter von Paris and he has been working as a master luthier at Schack Guitars in Frankfurft before he founded his own business. His website can be found at Link Removed . (btw: you'll find my piccolo4 on his website too). Since he prefer's to spend most of his time building instruments, he didn't provide any email and prefers to be contacted by phone (listed on his website).
Thanks for the link. There are some very nice basses there. I've always liked the Schack basses too.
 
Yup. I owned a nice one of these. Flew from Boston to Dallas with it. They are a solidly built bass, 30" scale, usually come with a Schaller bridge and pickup along with Grover tuners mounted into a routed area in the body. Many have been beat to c&*p but if you find a good one, you have a nice bass that is about as compact as anything can be. It is a tiny bass that can hold it's own in many real performing situations as long as you dont mind the Steinberger style appearance.

Peace,
S

I saw this in some local classifieds and thought I'd point it out here. I have no affiliation whatsoever with whoever is selling, I just saw the ad online:

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Says mint cond, with new bag, and comes w/ a guitar....
 
the shamray weight is 4.3 kg,
and the sound is fantastic, round and well defined, especially in upper frets, it´s a great solo bass, the ebony adds a lot of clarity...
With this bass I realised that I like basses with more than 24 frets......

regards
 
speaking of short scales; so far I could only think of Ibanez (mikro) and Jackson (minion and dinky) selling short scale electric basses and guitars as far as in "mainstream" stores go (i.e. Guitar Center, etc.). I'm sure there's other brands that sell short scale guitars and basses that I have yet to look into. I have yet to find a headless short scale bass guitar that's contemporary, other than what Steinberger sells, I think Hohner has one?

I do have the Ashbory bass and a Steinberger Spirit headless guitar, as well as the Ibanez Mikro bass and guitar.

To get even more deep into the niche, any idea who has the fretless version of any of these? I have a fretless electric guitar by Hadean that I rarely play. I think it's because it's a standard size, wished they sold a short scale version of a fretless guitar!

None that I could ever think of. Short scale basses are a small niche of the market. Headless basses are an even smaller niche. Together, I don't think I have ever heard anyone who wanted a true shorty that's also headless.
 
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