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Should I play bass?

I started as a bad guitar player. I was a chubby kid, and knew some day I would have facial hair and like wearing hats and 4 strings are easier than 6...so I had to be a bass player. Besides my best friend was better in guitar, if it was good enough for Macca it was good enough for me.
In all seriousness, there are 20 good guitarists in every town to each good bass player but that isn't the reason you should switch.
 
a typical guitarist remark is to think bass is easy because it has the same 4 strings.
bass is a completely different mindset than guitar; with out a different approach, well-you will sound like a guitarist who switched to bass.
it isn't that bass is the better instrument to play; it's just that its the superior one ;):smug:
 
Wow, I never imagined what I posted here would receive so much comment and emotion! This has been an interesting insight in both my own and other's psychology.

I sincerely apologize if I offended any of you. That wasn't my intention. Many of you might be able to relate, as musicians, that I'm not always the greatest at expressing myself through words. That is why I love music so much. It gives me a purer platform to express myself.

I don't apologize for what I said however because, wrong or right, it came from what was on my mind. I also, can't apologize for coming across as confident in my musical abilities. I admit I am terrible at lots and lots of things in life. But, I have always been gifted in music and I've worked extremely hard at it. I wanted to show this confidence (call it cockiness if you'd like ) in guitar and as a musician because I thought it was an important part of my decision to possibly focus on bass.

Technically, I already play bass (for about 10 years) and I should have been more clear about that. I've owned a bass (Fender 62 Reissue J bass, that I love! ) for about ten years. I've used it to write music, record and work with bassist that I've played with to improve their bass parts. I'm quite confident in how to apply bass lines to music and how it is a very different approach than guitar. The difference is I've never played bass in a professional band situation and I've always thought of it as a tool to my songwriting. I also, play and write for keys and drums. But, I wouldn't consider myself in relationship to those instruments as band member. I would like to consider myself as just a musician honestly. Guitarist/songwriter is more my area of expertise.

So, my opinions (that were unfortunately offensive to some) that bass is simpler in many respects comes from my own experience. A lot of that happens to come from the styles of music I've played which has mostly been Blues/Rock, Jimi Hendrix/Cream/Zeppelin/Floyd influenced projects and a couple progressive rock projects similar to Porcupine Tree/Opeth styles. I've never played much but I'm totally into jazz and jazz fusion. I believe that would be a totally different experience for a bassist! I come from styles of music where guitar is somewhat of the focal point of the music. So, it would be a completely different role for me if I were to play bass.

My reason for considering bass, does come from the fact that I think I would have more opportunities to play music and play with better musicians, than what I feel limited to in my area as a guitarist. My the reason for that desire is because I love music. I think we can all relate to that!


I didn't come here to post in order to ask for permission but, rather to receive honest input from bassists who know what's it's like to play bass and from those who have made the switch in focus. I thank all of you who did offer that to me!

Unfortunately, bassist don't often get the respect they deserve from both the public and other musicians. That is a shame because without bass music would suck!

In conclusion, I have decided to get out there and try out playing bass!

It will be a big commitment to get started. I've selected a few of my favorite bassist to start studying. I think that will be fun and fulfilling. I already have a bass I love but, I need to purchase a amp. I'll probably lurk here and maybe post some questions about bass equipment. Hopefully the connotation of my Screen name,that I've created, from this post won't shut me out of being part of this community.

Hopefully my post had more meaning than just pissing some people off, lol.

I truly do wish all of you lots of success in your musical journey!
 
Yes- OP Bass is too easy for you- you could already play better than any of us who have been playing it for years.

WRONG!-- It will take you 5-6 years of steady practice and playing just to have good time and feel on bass. Because your time and groove on guitar like most is NOWHERE near EVEN an average bassist.


Really? 5-6 years?

Don't you think that's overstating it a bit?
 
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Then maybe you ARE a guitar player? Ok, that was a joke, but stuff like that bothers me. The implication that this is SO difficult that only a chosen few can do it.

This isn't the Navy Seals or Cy Young award winning pitching or even Julliard. It is music. If it took 5-6 years to become somewhat competent very few people would spend the time.

Or perhaps I am just gifted. Evidence suggests otherwise.
 
Wow, I never imagined what I posted here would receive so much comment and emotion!

I haven't read much past the first page but welcome to Talk Bass. People can be very quick to throw around the word troll here and once that happens the masses pile on but most people here have no idea what a true troll is. And because of that the few here who truly come close to being trolls go completely unnoticed while unwary innocents who make unfortunate choices of expression become lightning rods for the righteous anger of people whose hot buttons have been pushed by accident. Trolling is a high art, actually, and those who have mastered it don't stand out.

Bass guitar is pretty easy to play to a level that is useful to many bands. Once you try to go beyond merely useful you face the same uphill climb that all other instrumental musicians face and if you want to become truly great then bass guitar is no easier than any other instrument. And then when you play bass guitar you are signing on for a life of under appreciation, which apparently makes some of us thin skinned. You sometimes see the adage here that bass guitar takes 10 minutes to learn and a lifetime to master. That is pretty close to the truth. But if you master it you will be appreciated by others at the top of their craft if not by the masses.

Should you play bass guitar? Maybe. Do you have a passion for it? Do you have a passion for being a key component of a band even if you go under appreciated? Passion is important. When I was young I tried out for the school band program and the tryout consisted of being handed a clarinet and asked to attempt a few simple things. Evidently I did them well enough and I was branded a clarinetist. No one asked me what I might like to play and I was too shy at the time to make a stink about this. I played clarinet for years and got reasonably good but never mastered it. I learned to love music but I never became passionate about the clarinet. I don't play it today, perhaps I could, but I still have no passion for it. I love singing and playing bass guitar however. I will continue to do both as long as I can. So there is reason to avoid becoming something just to accommodate someone else's needs. If they had handed me a trumpet or a flute I would probably still be involved with those -- and with bass guitar!

On the other hand, Ian Anderson reportedly gave up on lead guitar when he realized he would never be as good as Eric Clapton. Supposedly he walked into a music store, saw a flute for sale, and Jethro Tull was never the same! He's written some delicious bass lines too....

So it is hard to give advice really. It is best to go where your heart is. If your heart is in bass guitar then go with bass guitar. If your heart is in writing music and playing with a band and you can see that bass guitar is one good, interesting way to keep in that game then go with bass guitar. You may discover one day that you really do love the one you are with. But if you see bass guitar as merely a means to an end, an unfortunate reality that the local music scene is forcing on you, then going with bass guitar is probably not a good idea. It could end up fatally distracting you from the things you really have a passion for.
 
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While I consider myself to be a bassist to my very core- I struggle with ego issues similar to many guitarist converts.

My father is a pretty serious guitarist and I have many of his riffs imbedded in my DNA- they have become inappropriate reflexes that have killed TOO many grooves.

True bass is the subjugation of the ego to become a living foundation for your band mates. (opinion)

Whether OP is a troll or not- I suggest we all ask ourselves if we are making the sacrifices essential to make good music and please/inspire our audience.
 
True bass is the subjugation of the ego to become a living foundation for your band mates.
My knee jerk reaction is that true music is the subjugation of the ego, but then again, a person could use music to express egotism if they wanted to. On the other hand, I see no reason for the bassist to be the butt of the band.

If other band mates feel the need to direct their egotism in my direction, rather than finding an artistic outlet for it, then I'll invite the band to find a more subordinate minded bassist. I can't be all things to all people.
 
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My knee jerk reaction is that true music is the subjugation of the ego, but then again, a person could use music to express egotism if they wanted to. On the other hand, I see no reason for the bassist to be the butt of the band.

If other band mates feel the need to direct their egotism in my direction, rather than finding an artistic outlet for it, then I'll invite the band to find a more subordinate minded bassist. I can't be all things to all people.

I like to have a mindset to be comfortable enough to be a proverbial "doormat" for the band. Offensive tackle, sous chef, and fluffer are other fun analogies.

The important thing is that we are actually time/emotional capital thinking about our roles in order to have bettet musical relationships and performances.

Let's all pat our backs together!
 
I like to have a mindset to be comfortable enough to be a proverbial "doormat" for the band. Offensive tackle, sous chef, and fluffer are other fun analogies.

The important thing is that we are actually time/emotional capital thinking about our roles in order to have bettet musical relationships and performances.

Let's all pat our backs together!
Don't say that! We don't need a bunch of already overly egotistical guitarists running around calling us musical fluffers!
 
To clarify my position, yes you could learn to play bass and be reasonably good in a year or two of heavy practice, but I am talking TRULY grooving and FEELING what you are playing. BIG Difference.

Any hack can play the blues on bass after a couple of months, but to truly feel it, and push and pull the groove ever so slightly- at least 5 years IME.
Anyone could work up their pick skills and play Judas priest on bass. But to really make those notes pulse and have the subtle push/pull- AGAIN 5 years.
 
I think the reason bassists are thin skinned is because many guitarists seem to be taught that bass is easier is an actual fact. Even my nephew's music teacher told him he could play bass since he already is learning guitar. Without ever explaining the difference between the instruments and their roles in music. Just told him he was already a bass player. Like its a side bonus of being a guitarist. Also told him he could work out some drum parts to play with. I mean, I guess since they have no strings it'd only take a day or so to learn to do that.
 
I am going to ignore most of these posts and reply to the OP.

Similarly, when I was very young there were alot of guitarists and no bass players. Figured it would be easier to get in bands, etc. That has been somewhat true. But to be good at it and stick with it you have to really understand the role of bass and be able to not only hold a groove but to understand some theory and really know your scales and chords. Not to offend anyone, but some guitarists tend to play chords just because they sound good together. In order to play bass you have to understand why they sound good together. The thing is not the root but what you do between the roots. And it is different being an accompaniest than being a guitarist, and practicing to be an accompaniest is much different. In my limited experience, other non-musicians do not understand it and do not care to listen to your practicing, etc. But when they hear you with a group it is a different story. Like anything else one pusues, it is a journey and your journey will be different than all of the others here. Mine has gone on for 40+ years, including a nearly 20 year break after which I came back much improved.
 
I sincerely apologize if I offended any of you.

I don't apologize for what I said however because, wrong or right, it came from what was on my mind.
You can't have it both ways. It sounds like you are saying you are sorry we were offended, but that is our fault, not yours.
I also, can't apologize for coming across as confident in my musical abilities. I admit I am terrible at lots and lots of things in life. But, I have always been gifted in music and I've worked extremely hard at it. I wanted to show this confidence (call it cockiness if you'd like ) in guitar and as a musician because I thought it was an important part of my decision to possibly focus on bass.
Cockyness can be good, but not arrogance. You may want to learn the difference.

Whenever some thinks bass is easier than guitar that tells me that they don't have any idea how to play the bass. The fact that you know where the notes are does not make you a bass player, it only makes you someone playing a bass.
 
Forget everything you learned on guitar except the notes when you're on the bass .
Being a rhythm instrument listen to bass and drums - Being a melodic instrument also pay attention to bass and vocals.
Check out some Paul McCartney bass lines - he made a successful transformation from guitar to bass. ( Most guitarist on bass sound like guitarist )
Don't play guitar leads on bass. Guitar leads are for a soloist instrument like guitar and they don't interpret well on bass.
Now go out and have fun with your new instrument - before we beat you up :)