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Show your PA rack

#26
Floyd Eye said:
Don't think I'd spend my money on the StudioLive. Lots of problems with them I hear.
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I've had a StudioLive for well over a year and never had an issue at all. I keep a Mac Book Pro and a cheap net gear router on it and flawless performance once you understand how to keep you iPads from going to sleep and having to reconnect. I run Capture on everything I do and again no problems. I've got it driving some JBL PRX 3-way tops and the matching heavy duty powered subs. Five IEM's and total investment right around $12k. Everybody owns their own ear buds (all UETriple Fi 10) and also their own mics, stands, iPads, etc.

It is the easiest, most consistent sounding rig I've used or owned.

I think most of the people that have problems with Presonus don't really understand what they are working with. I do know many PC users have issues because they buy newer cheap laptops that have problems dealing with non approved FireWire cards. If not using a Mac, the best PC to use on the Presonus is an older lapper that has the built in 1394 4pin port, and then pick up a 4-to-6 pin adapting cable off Amazon for about $15 and done, very stable. Until I got the Mac about a year ago, I had been running it with an older Dell and it was awesome. Everybody makes a few lemons though, so I can't say they are perfect. But they are a great company to work with. I've been a Presonus dealer as a pro av contractor for 3years and actually have never sent any of their stuff back for repairs. And install at least 3 per month during that time period.

And the whole show is up and sound checked in an hour and back out the door in a half hour. I think you'll find far more satisfied customers that are highly passionate about their overall experience with those consoles than the naysayers.
 
#27
Lol. A lot of the people I have heard about having problems are over at Pro Sound Web. Go over there and tell them they don't know what they're working with.

Personally, I have zero experience with ANY digital console and I do understand that a lot of guys dig the SL. I also understand that a lot of guys who ran out and bought them have had problems with them. To the point that very many pros are not recommending them and are in fact recommending against them. Some on this board even. My only point was that if people are going to go and drop that kind of money on a console, I think that they should be aware that people are having problems with them. Of course this absolutely does not mean that a lot of people don't love them.
 
#28
Keithwah said:
I've had a StudioLive for well over a year and never had an issue at all. I keep a Mac Book Pro and a cheap net gear router on it and flawless performance once you understand how to keep you iPads from going to sleep and having to reconnect. I run Capture on everything I do and again no problems. I've got it driving some JBL PRX 3-way tops and the matching heavy duty powered subs. Five IEM's and total investment right around $12k. Everybody owns their own ear buds (all UETriple Fi 10) and also their own mics, stands, iPads, etc.

It is the easiest, most consistent sounding rig I've used or owned.

I think most of the people that have problems with Presonus don't really understand what they are working with. I do know many PC users have issues because they buy newer cheap laptops that have problems dealing with non approved FireWire cards. If not using a Mac, the best PC to use on the Presonus is an older lapper that has the built in 1394 4pin port, and then pick up a 4-to-6 pin adapting cable off Amazon for about $15 and done, very stable. Until I got the Mac about a year ago, I had been running it with an older Dell and it was awesome. Everybody makes a few lemons though, so I can't say they are perfect. But they are a great company to work with. I've been a Presonus dealer as a pro av contractor for 3years and actually have never sent any of their stuff back for repairs. And install at least 3 per month during that time period.

And the whole show is up and sound checked in an hour and back out the door in a half hour. I think you'll find far more satisfied customers that are highly passionate about their overall experience with those consoles than the naysayers.
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OP here, the intention here was to see PA racks. I know that not a single band in my area has 12K to spend on PA gear, iPads, Mac Books, etc. So for those of us that still entertain old school style, show the gear.

Be proud that you do it the way it's been done for 50 years, and still works today.
 
#29
It still works, but there are other ways. I'd say better. The cost of new racks, power amps, cabs, outboard effects, crossovers, eq, etc. isn't going to be much cheaper than a digital board and a set of powered cabs and subs. If you're happy moving all that gear, great.
 
#30
SteveC said:
It still works, but there are other ways. I'd say better. The cost of new racks, power amps, cabs, outboard effects, crossovers, eq, etc. isn't going to be much cheaper than a digital board and a set of powered cabs and subs. If you're happy moving all that gear, great.
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12K vs. 4K? Hmmm...what am I missing?
 
#31
I don't know what's missing either. The board is about $1,700. The speakers are about $1,400 for a pair of 2-way highs and about $1,800 for a pair of subs. So around $5,000 for a pretty loud, fairly light and rack free system. It fits in an Odyssey with just the 3rd row of sets down.

If you want to show off your big, heavy racks that's great. I'm just suggesting that a with other things musical (drum kits, bass amps, etc) more isn't always better.

Just another opinion.
 
#32
I'll jump in and say old school, quality analog dynamics and effects impart more character than any digital stuff on the current market.
And I work on digital consoles 9 out of 10 times I mix these days.
Here's few sweet pieces i've carted around in the past for live mixing and recording... I have the UAD versions, and use similar plugs on avid desks, but those plugs don't touch the real thing yet:
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#37
modulusman said:
The chance to charge more money when you sound better.:D Where I live you would be playing for peanuts if you rolled in with a 4K PA.
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Montana? Venues there must have high expectations. AND we must be doing something right since our little 4K rig gets us four-figure offers. Now back to being on topic.
 
#38
themacinator said:
Montana? Venues there must have high expectations. AND we must be doing something right since our little 4K rig gets us four-figure offers. Now back to being on topic.
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I play with two bands. My main band is a 4 piece. We own about 35k in PA and lighting. On a regular gig we use around 12k worth. My average pay after expenses is about $335.00 a gig. The other band I play with has less than 5k in gear and averages about $80.00 a man after expenses.:( I have a friend who plays in a americana /roots band that uses a Meyer rig. He owns a sound company though.
 

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