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Show your Ramps!

NO....you would not. You should have it adjusted to suit your preference. I know a few very well known bassists who are known for their thumb techniques and their ramps are adjustable and the neck ramp set to accomodate ALL playing styles with more comfort and ease. I actually have my pickguard on my Sadowsky increased in thickness for that very benefit.

My ramps are nowhere near low enough to keep near the neck and maintain a "normal" slap style. When I had ramps up there, I had to pop with my fingernails, which was interesting.
 
Well, you set your pickup heights for different reasons and the ramp needs to be adjusted for where it functions the best. I don't believe in the "walking plank" across the entire front of the bass either. Naturally, no one plays the same across the entire bass so on my acoutic electric fretless Citron I have three pieces of ramp set to different heights. One in the neck the middle and the rear, I'm just working on an adjustable solution for my ever changing height requirements.


Yeah, you get a "bigger" or more full tone when you pluck near the neck. It just doesn't suit my playing style or my preference for sound. Also, I see a potential problem with having the ramp in that spot (unless you're Gary Willis of course!) - as you said the string vibrates slower up there, but it also more flexible which means it moves more. My between-pickup ramps are set up in terms of height just so that the strings don't rattle against them. Were I to put a ramp near the neck, the ramp would have to be thinner, meaning more space between ramp and the strings compared to the other placement.
 
I do the opposite- I angle my ramps so that they are a consistent depth. The height between the strings and the ramp near the bridge or near the neck is the same. As consistency is the main purpose of a ramp for me, having an uneven depth would be counterproductive.
 
I had acrylic pieces cut in various thickness to accomodate correct height adjustment. It doesn't have to be up high like where the pickups are set, but it can be low and yet give a place to land more comfortable and allow you to slap, or get underneath to pluck with ease.

My ramps are nowhere near low enough to keep near the neck and maintain a "normal" slap style. When I had ramps up there, I had to pop with my fingernails, which was interesting.
 
My bass was built with an adjustable ramp. It's adjusted with hex screws and has it's own cavity like a pickup would have, but not as deep. That's how we dealt with that. I'm not sure how to do it after the fact though.

I'm sure it can be done, just not easily or without $ (or repair work).

Big fan of my adjustable 1/2 ramp. I could see myself using a full ramp some day. I really like being able to fine tune it.
 
Why are the majority of ramp users not ramping up near the neck where the warmer tones are? Even if you slap (thump) you can still have it decline to the point where you can still be comfortable with thumb techniques and fingerstyle.

It gets in my way. Besides, if I'm near the end of the neck I can play over the end of the neck. No ramp needed.

Where would the decline for slap be located?
 
That's a contradiction, if you can slap over the neck that MEANS the ramp is not in your way.

Huh?

I said nothing about slapping over the end of the neck. You asked why people didn't have ramps there. I don't because I want the space to get under the strings when I pop, between the neck pickup and the end of the fingerboard. Should I want the governing aspect of the ramp near the end of the fingerboard, I'll just play (FINGERSTYLE) AT the end of the fingerboard.

But slapping over the end of the neck/fingerboard is a useable tone, you(I) don't want that to be the ONLY slap tone available. Like I said before, you (I) might want to slap THRU the string until you hit bottom and even upstroke with the thumb, but at any rate you want SOME room to be able to do that with COMFORT.For me, I slap anywhere from the edge of the fingerboard to no more than a half-inch (if that) away from the edge. So for me all is needed is a ramp that wide near the neck and it should be able to adjust from as high as the neck pickup (extreme) or as low as the pickguard or body (normal). Sometimes many players I know slap over the neck pickup but not as a thump but like a strum ALMOST like a pick and the gospel players I know call this "Greasin'". So it is possible to find new tones with a ramp underneath or even over the pickup itself and the ramp and/or pickup does make it very consistent and not so tiresome if you had to do this for an entire 7-minute tune. I never said a ramp is NEEDED, but very useable to achieve a more comfortable position when using ALL plucking hand styles whether it be fingerstyle, slap and especially pick because I am very agile with different types of picks and the ramp can be your friend (sometimes), but when I just want to grind out and get abusive, the less I have in my way, the better. A guy like me plays very many styles of music in many different bands so everything we talk about on talkbass is always subjective.

I thought you were asking us what "we" thought.
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You still haven't explain this decline you mentioned.
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That's fine and everyone has their own personal taste as to how much space underneath they feel comfortable with to get a good pop. Most bass players use that as part of why they purchase a particular bass to begin with. However if its not perfect, a ramp can help get it there.

I am asking and I'm offering my two cents as well but not debating in the least. I appreciate your comments and respect them really. (Now take that SMUG off your face!) ;-)

Yes I did explain the decline, I like the area about one half inch from the end of the fingerboard as a good slap spot so the ramp can either have a dip or can gradually taper off there. I don't need a lot of room underneath so I'm experimenting with those two ideas.


You appeared to be offering a lengthy counterpoint to my "contradiction", none of which had anything to do with what I actually said. You could've just as easily not quoted me.
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Go on...
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Seriously, you asked a question, I answered it. And because of an apparent inability to read a couple of sentences you decided that I was being contradictory when I clearly wasn't. What you did was silly, what you're doing now is juvenile. So by all means continue. There's one in every bunch.
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Thanks Bryan. That explains it perfectly.

I'm a handy guy and work in a wood shop.
Maybe I'll make on for my new Lakland JO5 I'm getting this weekend

It's worth a shot. It can make anywhere between no and a huge difference for you, but you never know for sure until you play on one.
 
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