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Sid Vicious could actually play bass...kinda.

#81
roscothunder said:
Are you kidding me? Winterland is damn near unlistenable and Sid was awful.

There are recordings of Sid's early shows with the Pistols and he was much better (because he was actually trying to learn and not strung out on junk) than the later shows. I mean, he still sucked but you could tell he was trying.

If you have ears how can you listen to Winterland was the best he ever played lol?.
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First of all, given my medical challenges, I find your words hurtful.

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I didn't mean to suggest Winterland was Sid's high-water mark as a player. It certainly was not a great moment for The Pistols, either. Steve seems to be struggling to hold it together. Johnny is clearly miserable. And Sid stinks as usual, but at least he is not so dominant in the mix that the tapes could not be mined for an extract as featured on the Warner Borthers Sampler LP, "Troublemakers," which contained an extract from "No Fun" with no loud, marring bass clams.

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I think the audience tape from Dallas gig earlier in the US tour has a lot more verve, and is much more representative of the band and the tour. But Sid is contributing so much noise to the tape -- horrendous clams, plugging and unplugging noises -- that these tapes fail to meet the sort of minimal professional sonic standard necessary for a major label release.

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If you've got a link to a superior bass performance by Sid, by all means link it. I'm happy to be enlightened
on this issue.
 
#83
Son of Wobble said:
First of all, given my medical challenges, I find your words hurtful.

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I didn't mean to suggest Winterland was Sid's high-water mark as a player. It certainly was not a great moment for The Pistols, either. Steve seems to be struggling to hold it together. Johnny is clearly miserable. And Sid stinks as usual, but at least he is not so dominant in the mix that the tapes could not be mined for an extract as featured on the Warner Borthers Sampler LP, "Troublemakers," which contained an extract from "No Fun" with no loud, marring bass clams.

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I think the audience tape from Dallas gig earlier in the US tour has a lot more verve, and is much more representative of the band and the tour. But Sid is contributing so much noise to the tape -- horrendous clams, plugging and unplugging noises -- that these tapes fail to meet the sort of minimal professional sonic standard necessary for a major label release.

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If you've got a link to a superior bass performance by Sid, by all means link it. I'm happy to be enlightened
on this issue.
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There are some clips on Youtube from the early in 77 when Sid first joined where he was actually trying to play, people always use them to make the claim he could play but he's playing at a beginner garage band level. They were from their European tour mostly. Steve and Paul have both said Sid was actually trying at that point.

Winterland is awful, Sid's playing is awful You can hear him OK but that's about it and hearing him isn't exactly a positive IMO.

John was really sick at Winterland and so was Steve. Steve was having tuning issues, especially on that Firebird he used for some of the show.....and the sound mix was diabolical.
 
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#88
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Sid was SCUM!He once murdered a cat by hanging it.hes disgusting. Nothing but a junkie and a poser. He made an attempt to play bass but he was far from a bassist. He could barely play. Why and how people can even talk about him in a positive manner is just ridiculous. I wish death on no one, but that dude was a worthless member of society. Nancy was no better. Both NOTHINGS. He was a boy, a child. He was no punk. “ punk rock “ is a term that has multiple meanings and poser isn’t one of them.
 

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