Sid Vicious could actually play bass...kinda.

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by IpseDixit, Sep 14, 2013.


  1. bassrich

    bassrich

    Nov 20, 2011
    Sarasota, FL
    Came across this today I love Sids rendition of "I don't wanna go down to the basement" As one of the commenters says: This is pure gold !!!
     
  2. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth Inactive

    Lemmy wrote that Sid didn't know his way around a bass, but he was more Punk than any of the other members of the Pistols.
    Lemmy considered The Damned to be the real Punk act in England.
     
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  3. descendent22

    descendent22

    Jul 29, 2015
    Connecticut
    Punk has some of the best musicians and bassist out there. The punk name itself can at times get a bad rap. Sid sucked, plain and simple. Anyone can pick up a bass hit a g,c, and d note and call themselves a bass player. Their is a difference from a bass player or a person who plays bass and a bassist. The instrument itself is an art just like piano, or guitar, harp, or even opera vocals. You can never convince me that Sid was a decent player. He had the image, could strum with a pick and hit single nots but the technicality of the instrument, I don't think he knew one bit about it.
     
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  4. Son of Wobble

    Son of Wobble

    Mar 8, 2010
    Sid didn't play bass at those gigs, Arthur Kane did.


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  5. Son of Wobble

    Son of Wobble

    Mar 8, 2010
    Didn't hear the tape yet, but I've seen footage of the actual gig, and used to have a Warner Brothers compilation LP that featured the version of "No Fun" with which they closed the gig, and, yes, Sid is pretty much hitting the notes (although his playing is still flat-footed, and Jones and Cook are as usual doing all the heavy lifting). The Winterland gig was of course the last of the tour, so Sid benefitted from the experience he gained earlier on the tour, and this is definitely the best he ever played or sounded. I used to have vinyl bootlegs of other shows on the tour, and the show at Randy's Rodeo in Texas boasts some of the worst bass playing ever committed to disc. Thankfully, someone eventually turns off his amp (or perhaps Sid pulled his own cord by hopping about).
     
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  6. Son of Wobble

    Son of Wobble

    Mar 8, 2010
    I was a massive Pistols fan, and a Sid fan too, but yeah, my dog plays better.

     
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  7. Son of Wobble

    Son of Wobble

    Mar 8, 2010
    I think your interpretation here is too generous, for John tells the sound board operator, "Turn Sid down, he's putting me off" (10:37), right after Sid has served up his fifth or sixth clam in a row -- this in the first 90 seconds of the song ("Pretty Vacant"). I don't think Johnny was 'put off' by the monitor level but by Sid blowing every major change. Just awful. Consider how Sid bungles his initial entrance in the same song, fumbling the downbeat and costing Jones and Cook all the tension they've built in the intro.

    I don't think this tape builds a case for Sid as a passable bassist, but rather reinforces my belief that he was best enjoyed with amp off.
     
  8. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth Inactive

    Apparently Sid slept on Lemmy's couch for a while, while he was dating a gal from "The Slits".
    I'm surprised he didn't learn anything during that time.
     
  9. mpdd

    mpdd neoconceptualist

    Mar 24, 2010
    LA
    i think at certain points on the tour he was probably in withdrawal and not feeling so fly
     
  10. thomcat79

    thomcat79

    Apr 9, 2014
    scotland
    I think it was all about image with Sid, and the fact we're talking about him all these year's later it's fair to say it worked :D
     
  11. descendent22

    descendent22

    Jul 29, 2015
    Connecticut
    Sid was a poser. The fact that he tried to be a punk makes him a poser. He's nothing more then a mascot for a punk. A true punk is the guy that could be wearing regular Levi jeans and a white t shirt that stands for what he believes in and rebels and doesn't give a crap who or what likes it. A punk is gunna do what they want despite future consequences. Being a punk isn't a guy with a Mohawk, or a person that wears leather jackets, or a person that cuts themselves on stage lookin for attention. Yeah people talk about Sid and other then his name and the fact that he was part of the sex pistols, I think he was just nothing more then a statistical dead junkie.plain and simple. That my opinion and I know people will disagree but I said my peace
     
  12. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    You're one of those "rules for punk" types, eh? Boring.
     
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  13. descendent22

    descendent22

    Jul 29, 2015
    Connecticut
    Um actually, if you read my post it's quite the opposite. Rules of punk? I woulda never said anything.
     
  14. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth Inactive

    I love how people jump into a thread with an artist's name clearly in the title, just to bash them.
    Yeah, Sid wasn't so great on bass, and he was definitely being made a poster child by Malcolm McClaren, but even the Ramones had an image they cultivated.
     
  15. barach713

    barach713

    Jan 17, 2016
    nope, he actually started playing bass before joining pistols...its dumb how everyone think he saw bass guitar first time when he joined the band...sid and nancy movie doesnt help...he actually wanted to play and he learned ramones songs by ear..but problem is his heroin addiction, if that was not the case he would be much better, however for a punk band pistols were he was pretty awesome, also without him i wouldnt be where i am today...rest in peace sidney(oh besides, there was some gig in sweeden or somewhere north, he was loud and sounded pretty spot on even doing fills, so i guess when 'clean' he could rather do the job well, he bumps couple of notes here and there due to his jumping around but still, he played pretty much like any begginer today yet he didnt have net to look it all up)
     
  16. Callused Finger

    Callused Finger

    Feb 22, 2007
    New York
    Love them for the noise they created but I didn't know tuning a bass to a guitar could be so hard.
     
  17. barach713

    barach713

    Jan 17, 2016
    this dog tho ahahha so cool
     
  18. barach713

    barach713

    Jan 17, 2016
    i doubt it...watch the whole show..if someone played it for him it would be impossible to know when he is going to stop or bump yet the sounds are correct for his movement...thats him playing, noone else
     
  19. barach713

    barach713

    Jan 17, 2016
    there is one better playing, sweeden or norway not sure anymore but he was loud and audiable doing fills here and there and actually sounded spot on...but he is more audiable on winterland so most people refer to that as proof he actually played
     
  20. barach713

    barach713

    Jan 17, 2016
    but his singing was pretty good, i love 'come on everybody'
     
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