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GregC said:
Blocks, binding, a matching headstock and a different finish--like many cosmetic alterations--cost more money. Are they worth a $400 premium over the American Standard J? Maybe. Doesn't strike me as an outrageous premium.
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Actually, they are worth an extra $400 because that's what it costs if you want it. Doesn't strike me as outrageous, either.

As for Buldog's point about paying for the name, I don't see anyone holding a gun to your head and demanding you buy it.
 
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buldog5151bass said:
I'm talking about the concept in general. They are paying Clayton (and others), so they are charging more for the name, not just the alterations. THAT is my issue.
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If the price/value equation works for the buyer, that's all that matters.

I'm talking about specific price figures vs. features--which is where the anti-sig bass argument typically falls apart.;)
 
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SanDiegoHarry said:
I'm paying somewhat less than that for a Lakland PJ - that it has a signature is incidental to me. Like I said - Ironic, I know. Unlike many folks here on TB, I can laugh at myself too.
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Yeah man, there is nothing at all wrong with buying any bass. The value that the bass has is personal to the buyer and not to the trolls (not you) on an interweb boxing ring.

FWIW, I used to have a Lakland Bob Glaub. Worth every penny.
 
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Lichtaffen said:
So, you have access to Fender's bill of materials on this bass and you know that they are adding the cost of artist management?
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In fairness, Adam's not going to allow his name to be used without getting compensated. So yeah, there's absolutely a royalty paid to him. Seriously doubt if he's getting rich off it, though...most of the time, sig models are done for the prestige.
 
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Oh, sig bass threads, you always amuse. Can't find the relevant posts from earlier to quote, but here are some pictures of "suckers" and "losers" who play signature basses. Clearly they're just trying to ripoff the signature artists.;)

JMJ with a Geddy.
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Adam Clayton with a Lakland Darryl Jones.
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George Porter playing a Lakland Bob Glaub.
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Lichtaffen said:
Yeah man, there is nothing at all wrong with buying any bass. The value that the bass has is personal to the buyer and not to the trolls (not you) on an interweb boxing ring.

FWIW, I used to have a Lakland Bob Glaub. Worth every penny.
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And yet... if Bob Glaub (who I had never heard of before I read about his Lakland bass) came out with a sig bass by two builders in close succession, I would seem to me to be goofy. Of course, how many Bob Glaub fanbois are out there - particularly compared with guys like Geddy Lee or Adam Clayton?
 
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Wanna Giggle? When U2 appeared on the Tonight Show last Friday, Jimmy introduces U2 performing "Beautiful Day". It is clearly taped early, in a slightly different studio, but they make it look like its there. Adam Clayton is playing his signature Fender in that song. Same for the second and follow up song.

At the end of the song, when they switch back to the real studio, Clayton is holding his Warwick signature! Talk about "fails!" Even my wife, who tolerates the fact that I'm a bass dude and geek, noticed that and asked me about it.

The sound on the studio performance of the song is great. If you look on stage, there is definitely an Ampeg B-15 on it. I'm wondering if that was actually mic'd, because that sound and tone was amazing. However, Adam is an Ashdown guy last I looked. Interesting, eh?
 
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JimmyM said:
In fairness, Adam's not going to allow his name to be used without getting compensated. So yeah, there's absolutely a royalty paid to him. Seriously doubt if he's getting rich off it, though...most of the time, sig models are done for the prestige.
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Prestige? This a the guy from U2, you know. Prestige, earned or otherwise, is not something that they lack. Nah, this is all about the money, I'm quite sure. And hey - this is America! If you can make a buck selling a flavor of bass you like, then by all means! I'd do it in a dead heartbeat if anyone actually cared who I was!
 
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SanDiegoHarry said:
And yet... if Bob Glaub (who I had never heard of before I read about his Lakland bass) came out with a sig bass by two builders in close succession, I would seem to me to be goofy. Of course, how many Bob Glaub fanbois are out there - particularly compared with guys like Geddy Lee or Adam Clayton?
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There are in fact TWO Bob Glaub signature basses! One by Lakland, and one by Dan Lakin and his new company! Sort of two siganture models of the same bass!
 
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