Steve Walsh (formerly of Kansas) comes to mind- he was amazing back in the day.
John elefante has maintained his voice very well tho.
John elefante has maintained his voice very well tho.
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I agree with you to a point, but the commenters (other than the OP) are mostly saying these are still good singers, but not what they once were. Hell, at 35 I'm definitely not the singer I was in my 20s. But, yes, off-night videos are terrible representations of what people are truly capable of.
Phil Collins.
Frankie Beverly (of Maze)
Whitney Houston
Bobby Brown
Your post is dead on accurate except for a few words. The singer ALLOWED HIMSELF TO BE PUSHED. I'm sure there were no guns to his head.
Let's talk about Vocalists who can't cut the cake anymore but used to be awesome in their day.
Me too! & this clip always makes me feel better, the bassist really kicks it up around the 1:25 mark............Meh. Shooting fish in a barrel. I'd be way more interested in a thread about the ridiculously small handful of vocalists who can still cut the cake after many years in the business.
I think this thread is unfair and uncool, as many of these videos come from off nights... and nights after a band has been on tour for weeks or months. Singing is much less forgiving than other instrument playing. One of the singers I work with treats his voice as though he has a limited number of songs in him for this lifetime.
I know someone who sang for a well known group for 10 years. That group pushed him far beyond his capabilities using doctors, steroids, and whatever else they could to keep this guy singing relentlessly. Videos of him in his last year doing it are horrendous. Sucks that people keep putting videos up of "how much he sucked" when that wasn't the case at all. He didn't get into the band because he sucked. Anyhow... a few years into recovery from that he's back on top of his game.
I've got one of those. Corey Glover of Living Colour--saw them live two years ago in a small club with good sound and holy cow, he still had just about all of his insane range. I'm not sure how he managed that.Meh. Shooting fish in a barrel. I'd be way more interested in a thread about the ridiculously small handful of vocalists who can still cut the cake after many years in the business.
Back in 2002 I got to do an album and tour with Geoff Tate (Queensryche, Operation Mindcrime). He had just quit smoking (!) and out of 30+ dates on the tour, I can only recall one night when his voice was less than on point. Came through last year on the QR "farewell" tour and still sounded great, though I would also say he is staying out of the upper head voice part of his range.
Let's face it, Father Time is a mean, unforgiving SOB, nothing lasts forever and often with rock stars it is the voice that goes first.
Let's talk about Vocalists who can't cut the cake anymore but used to be awesome in their day.
This is Paul Stanley of Kiss shown here during the band's 1982 "Creatures of the night" tour
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This shows how he honed his skill as a vocalist over the years but sadly also how much his voice has deteriorated in recent times.
Make no mistake this is a TOUGH song for any vocalist to sing.
Say "Girl Band" and people will go "Spice girls" but ask the Spice Girls themselves and they will say "Dolly Dots"
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The Dolly Dots were a Dutch Girl group which existed from 1978 to 1987 and were everything that the Spice girls would become a decade later, down to the fact that they each had a different character and look. The management of the Spice Girls have since admitted that they simply took the Dolly Dots template and updated it.
But just like with the Spice girls where you can tell that Melanie C. had more vocal talent than the others, the most vocally talented of the six were the ones who sang the most of their songs.
They were: Angela Groothuizen ( The one with the poofed up hair and navy blue top in the picture) who was the Rock Chick of the band and later when the Dolly Dots called it a day went back to singing rock.
But it is the second one who is going to be the subject of this thread. Ria Brieffies (the one on the far left with the yellow jacket.) Brieffies had a voice which was VERY similar to ABBA's Agnetha Faltskog, she had that quality of "I sing it like I lived it" that authenticity which is impossible to fake.
But when the Dolly Dots did their reunion tour in 2007 it became painfully apparent that the years were NOT kind on Brieffies.
So sad, she gives it her all but it just isn't there anymore.
Ria Brieffies died in 2009 of cancer, her band mates carried her casket to the grave with her daughter taking her place as the sixth Dolly Dot.
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