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Single coil vs split coil for my first bass

I have a Zoom G3 (that I love !) and I've always been satisfied with its ZNR pedal emulation (Zoom noise reduction) which works great with my LTD ST-203 single-coils. Do you think it would be effective with a single-coil bass as well ?

The noise reduction system should be (about) as effective on a bass with single coils. Just looked it up -- Zoom Noise Reduction appears to be a noise gate. With a noise gate, the noise will again be audible when you are playing. Noise gates can also affect your transients (attack) and cut notes you are holding short (sustain). Some will reduce these artifacts at the expense of a delay, but that is typically in the software world. Using a gate also means you cannot use the volume knob as much because the gate will modify a quieter signal differently -- ie the gate does not adapt to your volume changes. Lastly, a gate can make players play in bursts -- ie not hold notes or not stop playing because the noise becomes more evident. For the purpose of 60 cycle hum cancellation, noise gates are a band aid. With noise, keeping the problem out at the source is (almost) always more effective than removing it later. Hum-cancelling pickups (eg split singles and humbuckers) are superior for cancelling noise/hum introduced at the pickup. Using hum-cancelling pickups (and nothing more) works for most basses and guitars. A gate is a fine tool -- for other applications.
 
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Uhh, dude? You just outed yourself. It says right there in what you posted that it is a "Split Single Coil" pickup. That IS the SAME THING as a "split coil pickup". "Split coil pickup" is just a shorter way of saying it. A split coil pickup IS hum-canceling. That's WHY they split the single coil into two - so they can wind one side in reverse to make it hum-canceling. Growlmonkee is spot on with everything he has said.

I mean, seriously, LOOK AT IT. It's a 2 piece pickup. There cannot be just one coil in there. There is one coil in each piece of the pickup. Thus, it is NOT a single coil pickup. It's a single coil that has been split in two. Thus, a split single coil, or split coil, for short.
A split pickup is hum - cancelling but not a double humbucking split pickup, each half is still a single coil not 2 double humbucker half's. The 2 half's make it a humbucker but still each one is single coil just wound different.
 
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In fact I like the distinctive tone of single coil bass. I can't explain why. As you said, it sounds articulate. I just don't know If it can sound "metal". Do you know any (masochistic) bass player who plays metal with a single coil (rather than split coil) ?

there's an interesting thread on jazz basses in metal here:

Metal bands that use a Jazz bass?

...unless you mean single-coil pickup P bass. i don't know of any metallers using those...
 
Well as said, you could just get a PJ bass with the right pickup configuration you can get all the tones you need...
I have a Dual P bass and a PJ bass....between them I don't need a Jazz...Just another thought....Oh and both have a maple neck.
BUT in reality you can make any bass work for any type of music if your want to tweek your EQ or even get a modeling amp.
 
The noise reduction system should be (about) as effective on a bass with single coils. Just looked it up -- Zoom Noise Reduction appears to be a noise gate. With a noise gate, the noise will again be audible when you are playing. Noise gates can also affect your transients (attack) and cut notes you are holding short (sustain). Some will reduce these artifacts at the expense of a delay, but that is typically in the software world. Using a gate also means you cannot use the volume knob as much because the gate will react differently at lower volumes. Lastly, it can make players play in bursts -- ie not hold notes or not stop playing because the noise becomes more evident. For the purpose of 60 cycle hum cancellation, noise gates are a band aid. With noise, keeping the problem out at the source is (almost) always more effective than removing it later. Hum-cancelling pickups (eg split singles and humbuckers) are superior for cancelling noise/hum introduced at the pickup. Using hum-cancelling pickups (and nothing more) works for most basses and guitars. A gate is a fine tool -- for other applications.

You're right ! A noise gate can kill dynamic and sustain but I know my Zoom pedal by heart, maybe that's not enough. I'll keep it in mind. Thanks !
 
P/J basses sound really great ! But I can't find an affordable P/J bass with maple fretbard. I owned a Fender telecaster deluxe 72 and I loved its maple fretboard. That's why I'm lokking for it.
Fender Deluxe Active PJ-Bass with maple fretboard $699 brand new.
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Well as said, you could just get a PJ bass with the right pickup configuration you can get all the tones you need...
I have a Dual P bass and a PJ bass....between them I don't need a Jazz...Just another thought....Oh and both have a maple neck.
BUT in reality you can make any bass work for any type of music if your want to tweek your EQ or even get a modeling amp.

EQ seems to be a potential solution. I have a Blckstar ID 100 head which is IMO a great modeling guitar amp for the price. Once I get a bass, I'm gonna plug the bass into the ID and try the USB recording option. I know that a guitar amp won't sound as great as a bass one, but I'll try !

PS : I know that can kill my cab speakers, I won't use it.
 
Understand that a guitar modeling amp will give way different tones.....you could try it but dont expect alot....unless it has some fantastic clean tones then maybe..
 
Understand that a guitar modeling amp will give way different tones.....you could try it but dont expect alot....unless it has some fantastic clean tones then maybe..

Yes I know ! I don't expect much but the amp has two great clean channels and can emulate 6 different tube distinctive tones and dynamics (KT88, 6L6, 6V6, EL34, EL84 & KT66)
 
In fact I like the distinctive tone of single coil bass. I can't explain why. As you said, it sounds articulate. I just don't know If it can sound "metal". Do you know any (masochistic) bass player who plays metal with a single coil (rather than split coil) ?

The OP says he plays mainly metal but other forms as well.
No I don't. (Masochistic, Lol). Sound metal? That sound like many others is touch, technique, how low bass is slung to cover your junk, how much pre is cranked, distortion capabilities of you amp, and distortion capabilities of your cabs. (& hope the guitarist isn't playing in your frequency range or you could just stay home anyway.)

Single coil basses tend to be in the minority in circulation. People tend to play them because they want to rather than because they are followers.