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Sire M7 Club

Here are some observations from my new M7 5-string, alder, TBL bass.

Weighs 9.4 pounds (with replacement metal knobs in place) which works for me. I use a Gruv Gear neo solo strap with it.

I had a few frets that were a little rough on the ends, so I taped around the fret and the side of the neck with frog tape (painter's tape) and did a little sanding with 400 grit sandpaper (both of which were lying around the house). That took care of the issue without any damage to the neck.

The shafts on the blend/treble/bass knobs are pretty short, so the lock screws on my metal knobs make contact with the shaft up towards where the shaft splits. So this means that the knobs don't sit completely straight which may or may not bother you. They also don't lock down really tight since the top of the shaft is split (so you can pull the knob off without loosening the locking screw). A repair person said that those shorter shafts were designed for push on knobs (like the ones that came with the bass). If you find knobs with locking screws that are lower on the knob, it might work better. Just something to keep in mind when searching for replacement knobs.

The knobs that came with the bass were plastic with rubberized outer coating. The work fine, but I liked the look of black metal knobs better. When I first received the M7, I took a paper towel (to get a good grip) and while holding down down the lower knob, I pulled up on the volume and mid level top knobs to give a little space so they didn't cause the tone/mid frequency knobs to move at the same time the top knob moved.

I found that the amount of effect the tone knob had depended on which amp I used. For some amps, there was very little effect if any whereas other amps it did have a noticable effect.

If you use the sigle coil settings, go with single/single. Mixing single with series or parallel will introduce hum. Moving the blend knob from the center detent when in single/single will cause hum.

The bass sounds great and is easier to play than my other 5-string bass. I was not sure the wider neck and string spacing along with flatter radius and thinner (front to back) neck would be more challenging.

The color of the bass looks much better in person than on the website. The finish on the body is pretty flat (not glossy).

I am really enjoying this bass.
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Just in case you wanted to know what strings come on the M7 5-string, the bass comes with a tag saying it was strung with D'Addario XL Nickel Wound.

I took a caliper to the strings and it looks like it matches up up with 45, 65, 80, 100, 130 set. So if these are long scale, then they would be EXL170-5. If they are super long, then they would be EXL170-5SL.

So if you like the factory strings, then those would be the D'Addario part numbers.
 
I just checked on the Sire Website and cannot access to any infos about the M series (both M3 and M7), neither put one in my cart to see Price/shipping Costs/Estimated shipping date. I emailed Sire about it but still haven't got any answers. Are they stopping production for this model, or are they proceeding to an upgrade ? I was saving my money to eventually buy a M7, but the weakness of Canadian dollar and not being able to know the exact landed cost of that bass is turning me off a bit. Besides, since it is not distributed in Canada, I have no chance to try it before buying it, so it is kind of a leap of faith for me... I've always had the dream of playing bass, I will probably be able to buy only one in my Life Time (according to our family budget...), so I don't want to make a mistake. I need an instrument that is versatile, of great quality, that won't cost an arm and a leg (remember: I live in Canada...), and ideally that is distributed in Canada. Any suggestions, anyone?
 
I just checked on the Sire Website and cannot access to any infos about the M series (both M3 and M7), neither put one in my cart to see Price/shipping Costs/Estimated shipping date. I emailed Sire about it but still haven't got any answers. Are they stopping production for this model, or are they proceeding to an upgrade ? I was saving my money to eventually buy a M7, but the weakness of Canadian dollar and not being able to know the exact landed cost of that bass is turning me off a bit. Besides, since it is not distributed in Canada, I have no chance to try it before buying it, so it is kind of a leap of faith for me... I've always had the dream of playing bass, I will probably be able to buy only one in my Life Time (according to our family budget...), so I don't want to make a mistake. I need an instrument that is versatile, of great quality, that won't cost an arm and a leg (remember: I live in Canada...), and ideally that is distributed in Canada. Any suggestions, anyone?

I can't speak for the what the situation is for Canadian buyers--- I did look at their "global" site and it shows them all "out of stock" but the USA site shows them all available with an estimated ship date of May 15th (link below).

And again I don't know how this affects Canadian buyers but I understand that the shipping is FREE under the new pricing structure, at least for USA purchases.

The Sires are, IMO, a great choice for your situation... they are very affordable but a very, very good deal for the $-- good quality. I would have considered myself very lucky to have a bass the quality of the Sires, when I was starting out 35 years ago. As it was, I had much, much worse as my first few basses.
 
I have a question for M7 5 string owners:
I'm interested in getting a new 5, but I have smaller hands. The flat profile of my Pedulla Rapture neck works for me, but a regular Fender 5 string Jazz is out. The new neck shapes on the American Elite Jazz basses are doable.
What does the M7 5 string neck compare to? Would you say it is a big, or chunky neck?
 
I would say no, it's a comfortable sleek neck, not at all big or chunky. More slender than the V7 5 neck (which I'd say is typical J 5 profile).
 
M7 is 35" scale... but I hardly notice that fact, as it's pretty comfortable to get around. I have average-sized hands. How small are we talking in the hands department, Trump-level small, or just kinda small?
There is that, but the way the neck sets into the body and how far back the bridge is and how it all hangs on the shoulder, it doesn't really feel to me like a longer scale - no reaching required even playing low C.
 
Howdy y'all...

I've been playing for about 10 years and have never been able to upgrade my bass. I currently have a peavey millennium bxp (passive, 4 string).

Narrowed it down to either the M7 or the ibanez sr700.

I'm like, 95% sure I'll get the m7 but I could use some thoughts on the matter if anyone has experience with the IBBY.

Also, you ever notice how almost everybody gets the 5 string? Why is that?
 
I'm not familiar with the Ibanez, but they get a lot of love on here for sure, I'd say both are great choices. And I guess lots of folks like the flexibility of the 5 string? For me, it's as much about extra fingering / position options as it the lower notes.
 
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Also, you ever notice how almost everybody gets the 5 string? Why is that?
Thr 5th string gives you a few more tone options while staying in the same octave and can be more efficient as you can play across the neck for two octaves instead of having to move up the neck. Also, if you ever have to play a song in Eb, you will definitely appreciate it!
 
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I have the M7 five string, but I am sure the four string is also excellent. I just got the 5 because I already had a number of 4 string basses, and wanted something that would add to my playing range/experience, so the five seemed natural (I have only one other 5 string-- a Sire V7). I wanted something "modern" since all my other basses are more traditional/jazz-stylish-ish, and to be "modern" and versatile in that way, for me, meant having that low B to go along with the more modern M7 stylings and features.. I have the 4-string, vintage-y thing covered already. So, nothing against the M7 4-string.
 
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BTW, a clarification... I have been doing a little checking around.... I think that more than likely, despite what has been said here on TB and which I repeated in one of the Sire thread/ forums on at least 2 occasions, the M7 bridge is NOT adjustable for string spacing (which is no big deal to me, few basses/bridges are and the spacing fits me fine).

Originally, it was posted by a TBer here that Sire had posted on their FB page in answer to a comment that they were... the TB poster included an image/screenshot of Sire's reply but it's no longer in that TB comment as of this moment...

I looked for that original facebook posting on the Sire USA facebook page, which would have had to have been before April 8 2016 since that was the date on the post here at TB (on the "Sire M Series" thread I believe) describing it and showing (at the time) a screen shot of it... I could not find that original Sire comment on the Sire facebook feed in any of the M7 posts I pulled up going back to 2015...

So, I facebook-messaged Sire USA, with this question and reply:

Thu 5:16pm
Does the M7 have adjustable string spacing with its Big Mass 2 bridge? In particular, the 5-string M7?

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BTW, a clarification... I have been doing a little checking around.... I think that more than likely, despite what has been said here on TB and which I repeated in one of the Sire thread/ forums on at least 2 occasions, the M7 bridge is NOT adjustable for string spacing (which is no big deal to me, few basses/bridges are and the spacing fits me fine).

Originally, it was posted by a TBer here that Sire had posted on their FB page in answer to a comment that they were... the TB poster included an image/screenshot of Sire's reply but it's no longer in that TB comment as of this moment...

I looked for that original facebook posting on the Sire USA facebook page, which would have had to have been before April 8 2016 since that was the date on the post here at TB (on the "Sire M Series" thread I believe) describing it and showing (at the time) a screen shot of it... I could not find that original Sire comment on the Sire facebook feed in any of the M7 posts I pulled up going back to 2015...

So, I facebook-messaged Sire USA, with this question and reply:

Thu 5:16pm
Does the M7 have adjustable string spacing with its Big Mass 2 bridge? In particular, the 5-string M7?

1:29am
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It is fixed
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I put on a pair of reading glasses over my regular glasses this morning, got a good light on it, and took a really close look, and my conclusion was that the "screws" that appear to anchor the saddle pieces are actually more like rivets - that is, there's no socket on the top for an allen wrench to grip on - there's an indentation, but it looks perfectly circular.

My guess is that they gave it a shot (thinking back to that FB report last year) and it didn't work out for the intended price point.

No complaints from me, I happen to like the spacing, and was worried that if it was adjustable, I might have difficulty getting it back to the original spacing after messing with it.
 
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Howdy y'all...

I've been playing for about 10 years and have never been able to upgrade my bass. I currently have a peavey millennium bxp (passive, 4 string).

Narrowed it down to either the M7 or the ibanez sr700.

I'm like, 95% sure I'll get the m7 but I could use some thoughts on the matter if anyone has experience with the IBBY.

Also, you ever notice how almost everybody gets the 5 string? Why is that?
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Howdy y'all...

I've been playing for about 10 years and have never been able to upgrade my bass. I currently have a peavey millennium bxp (passive, 4 string).

Narrowed it down to either the M7 or the ibanez sr700.

I'm like, 95% sure I'll get the m7 but I could use some thoughts on the matter if anyone has experience with the IBBY.

Also, you ever notice how almost everybody gets the 5 string? Why is that?[The Ibane
 
Does anyone know the thickness of the neck at the nut and 12th fret for the 4- and 5-string models? I can't find this info on the specs list on the Sire site or elsewhere. How does it compare to an Ibanez SR or BTB?
I'll measure my 5er, give me a few minutes....

Edit: I get 1.787" wide side to side, 1.39" center B to center G, both at the nut, and .715" depth from the top of the fingerboard (mine's fretless) to the back of the neck (front to back). The depth gets a little deeper right at the nut, there's a bit of a "volute" thickening due to the angled back headstock (first fret is the thinnest point).

I have a BTB, but it's a 6er, so hard to do a fair comparison.
 
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