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Small Town… Small Bar…
- Thread starter Bonecat
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I believe there's a lot of venues thinking it's a one way street, and they're the only ones with a finger on the 'control' button...
... try again, Vinnie.
hypothetically, the band leader or the bass player would suggest to the bar owner that they brought most of the hypothetical crowd, and that not paying the band would not only - hypothetically - guarantee the band would not play there again, but that none of the band's hypothetical followers would be going to the bar again after they heard the band was stiffed. hypothetically.
You have a statue of frauds?
I could hypothesize who that statue looks like, but that would be frowned upon.
Much like the statue.
I don't know what their thinking is. Maybe they don't want to bother with 1099s since these places are cash at the end of the night around here. I won't speculate about their other bookkeeping practices.
You have a statue of frauds?
I could hypothesize who that statue looks like, but that would be frowned upon.
Much like the statue.
…and I’m a second year law student. Embarrassing. Haha!
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When the final Tragically Hip concert was aired live, our band was booked at a local bar. We figured no one would come out - everyone would be home watching the Hip. We called the bar and asked if he still wanted us to come, and he said yes, he expected a decent turnout.
We went, set up and started playing at the agrred time, but we were just playing to the bar staff. By the end of the set there were only a couple of stragglers at the bar. We told the owner that we would be happy to take half payment and just go home, but he insisted we finish the evening. We did the second set to about 6 people. And at the end of that set we made the same offer to the owner, which he declined. So we did our final set.
When it came time to collect our earnings, the owner said that he couldn’t pay us since the bar didn’t make any money that evening. We got zip.
We spread the word to the musical community, and to the Mayor of the town whom we had come to know in the previous years. Consequently the owner couldn’t find a band willing to play there, and regular customers of the establishment stopped patronizing the place. Within a year he was out of business.
Hah! Fixed that.
We went, set up and started playing at the agrred time, but we were just playing to the bar staff. By the end of the set there were only a couple of stragglers at the bar. We told the owner that we would be happy to take half payment and just go home, but he insisted we finish the evening. We did the second set to about 6 people. And at the end of that set we made the same offer to the owner, which he declined. So we did our final set.
When it came time to collect our earnings, the owner said that he couldn’t pay us since the bar didn’t make any money that evening. We got zip.
We spread the word to the musical community, and to the Mayor of the town whom we had come to know in the previous years. Consequently the owner couldn’t find a band willing to play there, and regular customers of the establishment stopped patronizing the place. Within a year he was out of business.
Hah! Fixed that.
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Phone - deposit that check asap.
I was in a band that occasionally had that problem. But we had a 6' 3" 300 lb guitar player, so nothing ever came of it.
I was in a band that occasionally had that problem. But we had a 6' 3" 300 lb guitar player, so nothing ever came of it.
Most bars/restaurants in my area would never entertain a contract. You would end up never working.
Some bars/restaurants just shouldn't have live music. I've played way too many gigs at places where i can't fathom it being good for business for them.
Speaking from experience-You’d win a judgement for the agreed amount, and not be reimbursed for your time in court.
Been there, done that.
If you got paid, thank your lucky stars and don’t play there again.
If you didn’t get paid, don’t play there again
If you got paid, thank your lucky stars and don’t play there again.
If you didn’t get paid, don’t play there again
Every gig my band does is contract driven. I even sign a contract with the BL for every gig insisted by her. But.......we don't play in bars.
Last time that happened, we not-so-hypothetically refused to leave until we were paid in full.
When a check was offered, I told the owner that their bad-faith behavior put them on credit hold; They were welcome to pay by check, but we were there all night until they cashed it.
No question they woul've stop-paymented that check before we tried to deposit it; It's not a criminal matter for a business to write bad paper.
When a check was offered, I told the owner that their bad-faith behavior put them on credit hold; They were welcome to pay by check, but we were there all night until they cashed it.
No question they woul've stop-paymented that check before we tried to deposit it; It's not a criminal matter for a business to write bad paper.
