Smoking bans in US

[Joe Nerve]

I remember smoking in my college classrooms.

 

[David Jayne]

I'm too young to remember smoking in airline seats but I do remember Air France pulling a curtain around a specific area near the bathrooms where you could smoke. So weird!

 

[ChrisB2]

Smokin in the boys room!!!

 

[ZenG]

If you're a pot smoker , don't preach to me about the evils of smoking tobacco.

I knew a couple of pot smokers where I worked. Actually there were all kinds of pot smokers where I worked. But these guys were in the department where I was.
I went to their houses a couple of times (not to smoke pot though).
Both places stank like a skunk-cabbage patch.

 

[Munjibunga]

California is a no-smoking state.

 

[Munjibunga]

And does the US law permitt decide the owner if to smoke or not to smoke inside the bars?

In cities or states with smoking bans, no. No smoking is the law. The bar owner has no choice.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

Smoking has no benefit.
It might increase your blood pressure, and your pulse. The nicotine doesn't really do things that I would consider beneficial.

At least when I drink beer there is an immediate result, a buzz. With smoking, what do you get? Dilated pupils.

 

[ZenG]

Smoking tobacco doesn't dilate your pupils.

 

[Munjibunga]

And the incredibly high prices of the cigaretes make me thing that no body smokes in US

The average state tax on a pack of cigarettes in the U.S. is $1.60. In some states such as Washington, Connecticut, Rhode Island and Massachusetts, the state tax is over $3.00 a pack. In New York, it's over $4.00 a pack. Add to that the Federal tax of $1.01 and any local taxes and you end up paying over $6.00 in taxes on one pack of cigarettes in some states. In tobacco-growing states like Virginia, the average state tax is $0.48.

 

[TOOL460002]

If you're a pot smoker , don't preach to me about the evils of smoking tobacco.

I knew a couple of pot smokers where I worked. Actually there were all kinds of pot smokers where I worked. But these guys were in the department where I was.
I went to their houses a couple of times (not to smoke pot though).
Both places stank like a skunk-cabbage patch.

If you keep an ash tray it'll smell like either. I don't smoke in my house, so, whatever, but I think cigarettes catch more Crap because smokers have more ash trays around, hence more smell.

 

[Photobassist]

In cities or states with smoking bans, no. No smoking is the law. The bar owner has no choice.

There's a bar in Honolulu (Hawaii is a no smoking state) that has signs posted everywhere saying "Smoke at your own risk." The owners turn a blind-eye and cops haven't done much about it. It's probably one of few, if not the last, bars that you can still smoke at in Honolulu.

 

[Tony In Philly]

I don't smoke anymore (I used to love cigars but I quit them because they jack up my blood pressure) and it's nice not to have gigs where you end up smelling like an ashtray afterwards. That said, I really think indoor smoking bans have led to some less crowded bar venues.

 

[Winterglo]

When Eugene banned smoking in bars etc, one of the reasons given was to protect the non-smoking employees of bars & other businesses from being forced to breathe secondhand smoke all day long. They don't have the same choice to be there as customers.

The choice is not to work there, or start smoking.

 

[Winterglo]

You're absolutely correct...You can't legislate too many personal choices and wish that people would make better ones.

Would more people use heroin if it were legal? I'm guessing yes but not too many people are willing to shoot up each day.

Would less people be obese if we limited the availability of unhealthy foods? I'm guessing yes again but, as you implied, where do you stop and how can you enforce these types of laws?

Well, start with us not having to pay for their choices. It's a pipe dream I know..but we should be responsible for paying for our own mistakes. We are supposed to be free.

 

[One Drop]

The choice is not to work there, or start smoking.

No, a certain amount of safety should be assured in any workplace, especially avoidable risks.

It's a huge industry that affects millions of people, anyone who works on it should not have to be exposed to increased risk of dying of cancer.

Someone mentioned bars having the choice- this is unworkable as it is unfair to those that want to protect their employees.

 

[One Drop]

Well, start with us not having to pay for their choices. It's a pipe dream I know..but we should be responsible for paying for our own mistakes. We are supposed to be free.

At some point everyone pays for each other's choices, and for things that are not always choices.

People are fatter now and smoke less than they did. How much is really choice? Does a whole generation decide to change their behaviour or is thee a more complex mix of societal, legal, cultural, and educational reasons for people's actions?

 

[Winterglo]

At some point everyone pays for each other's choices, and for things that are not always choices.

People are fatter now and smoke less than they did. How much is really choice? Does a whole generation decide to change their behaviour or is thee a more complex mix of societal, legal, cultural, and educational reasons for people's actions?

Don't know, I just want cheaper insurance.

 

[One Drop]

Don't know, I just want cheaper insurance.

Everyone does, but it's an impossibility if you want proper coverage with the cost of medical care and drugs in your country.

 

[Winterglo]

Everyone does, but it's an impossibility if you want proper coverage with the cost of medical care and drugs in your country.

Mine has more than doubled, taxes have doubled, within the last 7 years, hmmmm? Don't know why? Wait, unless it has something to do with Obama. nah, couldn't be. Also, sugar tastes good.

 

[One Drop]

Mine has more than doubled, taxes have doubled, within the last 7 years, hmmmm? Don't know why? Wait, unless it has something to do with Obama. nah, couldn't be. Also, sugar tastes good.

Rates have been rising steadily, but the rate of rise has slowed.

One reason a lot of people's rates have risen so much is because they previously had practically useless plans, and companies were allowed to insure only the lower risk candidates, exclude pre-conditions, etc.

The real cost of insurance is now being revealed.

If you want to blame someone it can be shared amongst many, it is too easy to blame the Big O, but I'm not getting roped into a political discussion and I'm disappointed you tried to sneak such a comment in while pretending not to.