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Smoking pot while being in a band

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don't blame the pot,.. some of my most successful friends are weed heads! you seem to be hinting that pot & music are enemies of some sort. lol,... i got this image of your talented, creative friend hitting a joint, then standing there drueling while plucking one note through the entire song. (if his weed is that strong, i'll be his friend)

some people just aren't motivated. tell him to take a break and maybe it would help HIM. the alcohol might be more at fault, yet you seem to have emphasized the pot as the reason. in my experience, pot is a great motivator, but can also be a great relaxant. YMMV

Pot can kill your motivation. If you disagree now, come back 20 years after you smoke your last joint.
 
No, anything not in moderation, including alcohol, like I said in the post, can be bad. However, I never imply that alcohol is benign, unlike the pot smoking arguers who seem to here state. Why is it every argument is about how good it is or how it "puts you in the zone", but it really doesn't. If I put a couple of scotches back, I'm not playing like a madman either, just playing stupid.

Being legal makes a difference from the stand point that like it or not, there are laws. Finding excuses to break the law opens a slope I don't want to go down. If its okay to smoke pot because all the studies are wrong and the law in your mind is stupid, then it is not a far leap to I should be able to steal your bass and play it as my own, because no study says you need a bass and it makes me feel good. Unfortunately with laws, that is the way it goes. If you ignore some, you may as well ignore them all.

I'm not going to soapbox anymore here. I like the exchanges, and I can see it helped our OP.

Oh, and Matty, I like the animated, pot smoking emoticon....

Well, please dont steal my bass. According to state law Im not doing anything illegal. The Feds may not agree, though.
 
ok T, i did not want to get in this dumb discussion but man your analogies are weak at best. to draw similarities between stealing & smoking you HAVE to be high yourself
 
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Being legal makes a difference from the stand point that like it or not, there are laws. Finding excuses to break the law opens a slope I don't want to go down. If its okay to smoke pot because all the studies are wrong and the law in your mind is stupid, then it is not a far leap to I should be able to steal your bass and play it as my own, because no study says you need a bass and it makes me feel good. Unfortunately with laws, that is the way it goes. If you ignore some, you may as well ignore them all.

Actually laws are created to specifically differentiate between what is legal and what isn't. At different points in time alcohol was illegal and it was ok for police to barge into your house at anytime for any reason. just because it's a law doesn't mean it's right. We USUALLY get it right, but not always.
 
Being legal makes a difference from the stand point that like it or not, there are laws. Finding excuses to break the law opens a slope I don't want to go down. If its okay to smoke pot because all the studies are wrong and the law in your mind is stupid, then it is not a far leap to I should be able to steal your bass and play it as my own, because no study says you need a bass and it makes me feel good. Unfortunately with laws, that is the way it goes. If you ignore some, you may as well ignore them all.

But that makes the assumption that you have no moral center. I have enough faith in myself as a good person to know I'm not going to assault and rob people just because I don't follow every single governmentally-mandated law.
 
Pot can kill your motivation. If you disagree now, come back 20 years after you smoke your last joint.
You've made a simple statement of truth as if it's the whole truth, which it's not. To say that pot can motivate you is just as true, but again not the whole truth.

Generally people that flatly make either statement are trying to close an argument in an undeniable manner, as if they'd just called checkmate, when in all actuality, moving the king easily negates the call.
 
in my opinion, the only thing you can do is to try and get him off pot somehow. my cousin said he was worried about the amount his friend drinks, so he invited him to his house to play the playstation because his friend claims hes the best at any game when he is sober. maybe you should try something along those lines?
 
TRichardsbass said:
No, anything not in moderation, including alcohol, like I said in the post, can be bad. However, I never imply that alcohol is benign, unlike the pot smoking arguers who seem to here state. Why is it every argument is about how good it is or how it "puts you in the zone", but it really doesn't. If I put a couple of scotches back, I'm not playing like a madman either, just playing stupid.

Being legal makes a difference from the stand point that like it or not, there are laws. Finding excuses to break the law opens a slope I don't want to go down. If its okay to smoke pot because all the studies are wrong and the law in your mind is stupid, then it is not a far leap to I should be able to steal your bass and play it as my own, because no study says you need a bass and it makes me feel good. Unfortunately with laws, that is the way it goes. If you ignore some, you may as well ignore them all.

I'm not going to soapbox anymore here. I like the exchanges, and I can see it helped our OP.

Oh, and Matty, I like the animated, pot smoking emoticon....

I already posted my real answer, now I wanna ask you something. You ever drive faster than the speed limit? Connect to someone else's internet connection? Sing happy birthday to somebody in public? These things are all illegal, like it or not. Most people do these and many other illegal activities at least once in their life, even without knowing. Might wanna step down from your pedestal, in case it violates zoning permits ;)

As far as i'm concerned, the OP has been thoroughly answered.
 
Are you saying that you dont get a bit, even if just a little, of a buzz when drinking your scotch or bourbon? I know when I sip on scoth I get a buzz. I wouldnt drink it "just because". And, while I dont smoke herb "just because" I do happen to choose my strains based on scent taste. To say weed can't taste good, yet a pipe or cigar can is pretty hypocritical. Just because you dont like the taste doesnt mean that someone else doesnt.

Sure! i can poor a finger or so of scotch and sip it with my pipe and never feel a thing...do it all the time. If i want to feel it i pour up a couple of fingers and keep em coming :p

My point was this like the other TB rational stoner's don't smoke for taste or to just enjoy the smoke its to get stoned. I have never been with a group who was smoking herb who said "Wow! this weed has great overtones and discuss the room note or how it comes across on the palate...um...earthy, hints of wood,spice. they smoke it to get a buzz. i would trade off an ounce of Dan's blue note for an ounce of herb just to try it in my pipe...:D I don't think any weed smoker will take me up on that one although us in the pipe smoker circle trade blends all the time since we smoke...for taste.
 
The smell of pipe baccy makes me want to take it up! Hash does taste good though, and smells great too. I have had weed that smells and tastes good, but it's rare. I smoke for the buzz, but I do enjoy the taste and smell. I drink to get buzzed sometimes too, but usually I sip a nice whisky, cognac, wine or beer, just for the flavor. Cognac, coffee and a spliff of hash - now that's breakfast!
 
Sure! i can poor a finger or so of scotch and sip it with my pipe and never feel a thing...do it all the time. If i want to feel it i pour up a couple of fingers and keep em coming :p

My point was this like the other TB rational stoner's don't smoke for taste or to just enjoy the smoke its to get stoned. I have never been with a group who was smoking herb who said "Wow! this weed has great overtones and discuss the room note or how it comes across on the palate...um...earthy, hints of wood,spice. they smoke it to get a buzz. i would trade off an ounce of Dan's blue note for an ounce of herb just to try it in my pipe...:D I don't think any weed smoker will take me up on that one although us in the pipe smoker circle trade blends all the time since we smoke...for taste.


And those that drink scotch are full of it. who are you kidding it all tastes like gasoline. most people pretend its about the taste but that's a lie they're just conditioned to believe that, alcohol is just another addiction.
 
Sure! i can poor a finger or so of scotch and sip it with my pipe and never feel a thing...do it all the time. If i want to feel it i pour up a couple of fingers and keep em coming :p

My point was this like the other TB rational stoner's don't smoke for taste or to just enjoy the smoke its to get stoned. I have never been with a group who was smoking herb who said "Wow! this weed has great overtones and discuss the room note or how it comes across on the palate...um...earthy, hints of wood,spice. they smoke it to get a buzz. i would trade off an ounce of Dan's blue note for an ounce of herb just to try it in my pipe...:D I don't think any weed smoker will take me up on that one although us in the pipe smoker circle trade blends all the time since we smoke...for taste.


Bud isnt all that different. One hit from my pipe isnt going to get me stoned. A bowl to my head might, if the herb is good. I have been with people who smoked and said things such as "this herb has a citrusy taste" but that was never the point in smoking it. I do like the taste, but if i said thats why I smoked Id be lying. Just the same, Ive never drank for the taste either. Though, these days I do make my beer (as well as my herb) selections based on taste.

And those that drink scotch are full of it. who are you kidding it all tastes like gasoline. most people pretend its about the taste but that's a lie they're just conditioned to believe that, alcohol is just another addiction.

Actually, a good scotch tastes nothing like gasoline, but rather more like a smoky band aid.
 
Im a Scot! Well, technically Im a descendent of Scots. The description actually comes from my wife, who said the 12 year bottle of Buchanans I had tasted like a "smoky band aid". She says the same about smoked porters as well. I dont kow what band aids taste like, but I certainly know how they smell, and smell makes up a large percentage of what we taste.
 
Sure! i can poor a finger or so of scotch and sip it with my pipe and never feel a thing...do it all the time. If i want to feel it i pour up a couple of fingers and keep em coming :p

My point was this like the other TB rational stoner's don't smoke for taste or to just enjoy the smoke its to get stoned. I have never been with a group who was smoking herb who said "Wow! this weed has great overtones and discuss the room note or how it comes across on the palate...um...earthy, hints of wood,spice. they smoke it to get a buzz. i would trade off an ounce of Dan's blue note for an ounce of herb just to try it in my pipe...:D I don't think any weed smoker will take me up on that one although us in the pipe smoker circle trade blends all the time since we smoke...for taste.

Well, clearly your own anecdotal evidence is all that matters. Since it hasn't happened around the stoners you know, I guess it never happens eh? I agree though, the main point of smoking pot is to get high, and that's the main point of drinking as well. If you drink for the taste, you are the exception, not the rule.

However, I've on plenty of occasions discussed the flavor and quality of the herb I was smoking with the people around me in the same way that one would discuss wine or pipe tobacco, and I wouldn't say it's that out of the ordinary to do so.

However, NO, I wouldn't trade my OG Kush, Trainwreck, Headband, or Bubblegum for any of your tobacco blends. Tobacco is physically addictive and I don't need to become addicted to that pointless crap again... I'll stick with non physically addictive marijuana thank you very much.
 
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