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Double Bass So I have to admit..

#41
damonsmith said:
There are a lot of little things about rhythm. A basic sense of time is a basic sense of time. We should be able to hear pretty clearly whether we are playing on the metronome click or not. The "little things" about time are only relevant to practice once we get control of them, which is not relevant to the topic of solidifying basic time.
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If our minds and ears all worked exactly as yours do, agreed. Sorry to interrupt your train of thought. :thumbsup:
 
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okcrum said:
If our minds and ears all worked exactly as yours do, agreed. Sorry to interrupt your train of thought. :thumbsup:
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All of us being "different" is what makes music interesting. However, there are certain hard facts like time and pitch that we can make all sorts of arguments for and against in our work (see mine!). These things are mathematical facts - X amount of beats per minute, x amount of vibrations per second. When someone wants to build basic time there is certainly more than one way to do it, but the two quickest ways are disciplined metronome work and playing daily with great musicians who have great time. Adding in distractions lengthens the process.
 
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damonsmith said:
All of us being "different" is what makes music interesting. However, there are certain hard facts like time and pitch that we can make all sorts of arguments for and against in our work (see mine!). These things are mathematical facts - X amount of beats per minute, x amount of vibrations per second. When someone wants to build basic time there is certainly more than one way to do it, but the two quickest ways are disciplined metronome work and playing daily with great musicians who have great time. Adding in distractions lengthens the process.
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True, but strictly speaking, each player will have different latencies due to physiological and neurological differences, in addition to the 1 ms/ft. delay in how far the metronome is from their ears (headphones excepted). That is off topic to the discussion at hand, since we learn to compensate for all this unconsciously.
 
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Regardless of such delay, the space between beats will still be uniform. In real settings we will have to work with musicians at different distances so it will work itself out.
Basic time is a meeting point for all of us, so overcoming the "physiological and neurological differences" or not that separate us in this instance is probably going to determine whether playing music with others is something a person is suited for. There are a lot of options in life besides playing music with other people.
 
#46
Rather well, thanks letrabass...I note that one of the things that hasn't been explored (or at least I can't see it) is the "anxious" or excitement level that can influence how I play live. I am going to say "performance anxiety" hoping that someone doesn't pounce on this ;-) I also believe (as I am exploring in another thread) that the ability to use Takamene type solfage helps to get the subdivisions right in my head...And then there are the 24 rest measures with stretched tempo, where unless I keep my eye on the conductor, it can make a difference between a good or a mediocre night. A lot of this is basic for the folks here, I know - me, am on a long journey, but loving it.
 

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