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So I quit my band. The final chapter.

I had a good run as a founding member and have posted a few threads about this band before if you're interested in my backstory. Thread 1, Thread 2, Thread 3 The advice from this community has always been solid, and it’s helped me frame my experiences and move forward through the challenges.

The original lineup was casual, but over time, attrition led to recruiting stronger musicians, and my own playing with a bit more effort, reached a level where I wasn’t as intimidated by them. Though I still view myself as sort of an average player. One of them would still shout keys at me in the middle of a song as if I would adjust on the fly that easily. “Yeah thanks! F# maj, so does that mean the flat 7th is ok or not? I was a Suzuki kid so…” I also moved aside and gave up my mic to let new members shine but eventually missed being part of the front row and singing lead and interacting with the crowd when we played live. But such is the life of a bass player in an 8-piece band.

The last year was a good one. We played a big festival, getting our name on the poster and T-shirt! (It’s that band at the end in the smallest font, but we were thrilled nonetheless.) We got to hang with our biggest influences as peers and they seemed to appreciate what we were doing. We finished a recording project, tightened up our sound, had a successful run of shows in late summer/fall and even picked up an odd stalker fan or two which is the mark of true success, right?

I’ve had a lot of fun doing this. It’s been a huge part of my life, and while it’s not always been easy, I wasn’t planning on leaving yet, but as it turns out, I’m going to be moving out of state in about 6 months.

It’s been an odd feeling. I’m pretty good friends with these people, like a second family. We’ve been through a lot. They gave me a chance when I was just a new bass player with about a year of lessons under my belt, and after I leave only the founder/leader remains of the original lineup. Most of my time was spent frantically learning songs as we played a lot of different covers at first, varying our set quite a bit across different decades of the style, ska. As a result, I leaned pretty basic somewhat repetitive lines (which actually are common in ska) never much theory, no soloing, and kept to the lower 2/3rds of the neck. I’m not the kind of player who can sit in a key and improvise a lot of different walking bass parts at will during a song. I’m also more of a live player – but drift around a bit in the studio when the recording light comes on and the engineer starts comparing my wave to the drumbeats.

So on to my problem statement. I’m trying to figure out what’s next. I enjoy performing but am sure I can't make the cut in a true working band of veteran pros. I had considered taking a year, getting a teacher, and shoring up the holes in my technique and theory, but am worried that might be a drag. If I were super brave, I’d develop solo material and play an open mic, but really see myself as being better in a supporting role. I’ll know few people in the new town. Ska people like are close knit, but I’m not sure there’s any kind of scene in north Texas.

Looking for creative thoughts and appreciate any ideas. As always, thanks to this amazing community!
 
I had a good run as a founding member and have posted a few threads about this band before if you're interested in my backstory. Thread 1, Thread 2, Thread 3 The advice from this community has always been solid, and it’s helped me frame my experiences and move forward through the challenges.

The original lineup was casual, but over time, attrition led to recruiting stronger musicians, and my own playing with a bit more effort, reached a level where I wasn’t as intimidated by them. Though I still view myself as sort of an average player. One of them would still shout keys at me in the middle of a song as if I would adjust on the fly that easily. “Yeah thanks! F# maj, so does that mean the flat 7th is ok or not? I was a Suzuki kid so…” I also moved aside and gave up my mic to let new members shine but eventually missed being part of the front row and singing lead and interacting with the crowd when we played live. But such is the life of a bass player in an 8-piece band.

The last year was a good one. We played a big festival, getting our name on the poster and T-shirt! (It’s that band at the end in the smallest font, but we were thrilled nonetheless.) We got to hang with our biggest influences as peers and they seemed to appreciate what we were doing. We finished a recording project, tightened up our sound, had a successful run of shows in late summer/fall and even picked up an odd stalker fan or two which is the mark of true success, right?



I’ve had a lot of fun doing this. It’s been a huge part of my life, and while it’s not always been easy, I wasn’t planning on leaving yet, but as it turns out, I’m going to be moving out of state in about 6 months.

It’s been an odd feeling. I’m pretty good friends with these people, like a second family. We’ve been through a lot. They gave me a chance when I was just a new bass player with about a year of lessons under my belt, and after I leave only the founder/leader remains of the original lineup. Most of my time was spent frantically learning songs as we played a lot of different covers at first, varying our set quite a bit across different decades of the style, ska. As a result, I leaned pretty basic somewhat repetitive lines (which actually are common in ska) never much theory, no soloing, and kept to the lower 2/3rds of the neck. I’m not the kind of player who can sit in a key and improvise a lot of different walking bass parts at will during a song. I’m also more of a live player – but drift around a bit in the studio when the recording light comes on and the engineer starts comparing my wave to the drumbeats.

So on to my problem statement. I’m trying to figure out what’s next. I enjoy performing but am sure I can't make the cut in a true working band of veteran pros. I had considered taking a year, getting a teacher, and shoring up the holes in my technique and theory, but am worried that might be a drag. If I were super brave, I’d develop solo material and play an open mic, but really see myself as being better in a supporting role. I’ll know few people in the new town. Ska people like are close knit, but I’m not sure there’s any kind of scene in north Texas.

Looking for creative thoughts and appreciate any ideas. As always, thanks to this amazing community!


Do whatever comes along my friend . Enjoy the ride . You have achieved much more than many . Cherish the memories and see where life takes you now . I would say by your story , that you are the perfect grey man in the background bass player . The world needs a lot more of folks like your good self .
Ska is a great format for a bass player . No need for flashiness but keep that beat .
BTW I am striving to be average .:hyper:
 
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Do whatever comes along my friend . Enjoy the ride . You have achieved much more than many . Cherish the memories and see where life takes you now . I would say by your story , that you are the perfect grey man in the background bass player . The world needs a lot more of folks like your good self .
Ska is a great format for a bass player . No need for flashiness but keep that beat .
BTW I am striving to be average .:hyper:

Thanks. I appreciate the sentiment. By grey man, do you mean the characters in a video game that aren't unlocked?
 
Lessons: Yes. Look for the right teacher who won't make it a drag.
Cover bands: Yes. Not much improvising, no recording. If not Ska, then try a new style.

Bass players are always in demand, so even if you're just average you should be able to find someone that needs you.

As an average guy, average student, average athlete it's only reasonable that I'd be an average bass player. Maybe that's why I like it.
 
Don't sell yourself short, experience is great no matter what. I can tell you right now there are hundreds of bass players in my small area that can probably play circles around me head to head, but in a band, I am the bass player people like to hear. Doesn't mean I am over simplistic and don't put a run or a fill or my own little walks in there, but solid bass players is what most cover bands need. But if you feel there is technique to be learned or theory, or anything else, continue to challenge yourself. Find songs that represent that, and spend time learning them.

Don't be afraid to put yourself out there, find the folks you groove with and rock on.
 
Make the move and see what's happening when get there. ( You could do that now, of course with CL)

Be open to whatever sounds interesting. Have fun.

100% this!
See what happens when you get there.
Sometimes the universe gifts you a fun opportunity. That’s what happened to me when we moved to a new state several years ago. Neighbors and co-workers who also happened to be musicians started popping up everywhere. I had (and have) my choice of projects to join. Some casual l, some a little more serious. I would have never known before I actually got here.
Also, lessons don’t sound like a bad idea. Could even do lessons while still looking for musical opportunities. No need to wait.
Good luck!
 
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Thanks. That's my thought. Maybe start my own thing.

With the experience you have from all these years and working with many different people, you seem to be in a great position to put together your own band. You may need to explore some other genres to get good players where you are, but that'll be part of the fun.
 
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It seems that you are a decent person that gets along productively with others; that's highly valued. Once you've moved, check out the open mics/jams and the music scene in general. Eventually there may be an open door you wish to walk through. Also, lessons a great when you have calm and stability in your life such that you can be diligent about practicing. I take lessons every once in a while and for short duration.
 
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I had a good run as a founding member and have posted a few threads about this band before if you're interested in my backstory. Thread 1, Thread 2, Thread 3 The advice from this community has always been solid, and it’s helped me frame my experiences and move forward through the challenges.

The original lineup was casual, but over time, attrition led to recruiting stronger musicians, and my own playing with a bit more effort, reached a level where I wasn’t as intimidated by them. Though I still view myself as sort of an average player. One of them would still shout keys at me in the middle of a song as if I would adjust on the fly that easily. “Yeah thanks! F# maj, so does that mean the flat 7th is ok or not? I was a Suzuki kid so…” I also moved aside and gave up my mic to let new members shine but eventually missed being part of the front row and singing lead and interacting with the crowd when we played live. But such is the life of a bass player in an 8-piece band.

The last year was a good one. We played a big festival, getting our name on the poster and T-shirt! (It’s that band at the end in the smallest font, but we were thrilled nonetheless.) We got to hang with our biggest influences as peers and they seemed to appreciate what we were doing. We finished a recording project, tightened up our sound, had a successful run of shows in late summer/fall and even picked up an odd stalker fan or two which is the mark of true success, right?

I’ve had a lot of fun doing this. It’s been a huge part of my life, and while it’s not always been easy, I wasn’t planning on leaving yet, but as it turns out, I’m going to be moving out of state in about 6 months.

It’s been an odd feeling. I’m pretty good friends with these people, like a second family. We’ve been through a lot. They gave me a chance when I was just a new bass player with about a year of lessons under my belt, and after I leave only the founder/leader remains of the original lineup. Most of my time was spent frantically learning songs as we played a lot of different covers at first, varying our set quite a bit across different decades of the style, ska. As a result, I leaned pretty basic somewhat repetitive lines (which actually are common in ska) never much theory, no soloing, and kept to the lower 2/3rds of the neck. I’m not the kind of player who can sit in a key and improvise a lot of different walking bass parts at will during a song. I’m also more of a live player – but drift around a bit in the studio when the recording light comes on and the engineer starts comparing my wave to the drumbeats.

So on to my problem statement. I’m trying to figure out what’s next. I enjoy performing but am sure I can't make the cut in a true working band of veteran pros. I had considered taking a year, getting a teacher, and shoring up the holes in my technique and theory, but am worried that might be a drag. If I were super brave, I’d develop solo material and play an open mic, but really see myself as being better in a supporting role. I’ll know few people in the new town. Ska people like are close knit, but I’m not sure there’s any kind of scene in north Texas.

Looking for creative thoughts and appreciate any ideas. As always, thanks to this amazing community!

In 2011, I joined a band of veteran pros in western North Carolina. I was the guy who worked at the wine shop. I mean, I could hardly believe it when they gave me the nod. I worked my tail off for the next three years, and by 2014, I was a much, much better player than I had been. Then circumstance caused me to leave for the Northeast, where I was originally from. I'd thought I was all done with music...and then I discovered Craigslist. Yeah, I make fun of it too, but I'll tell you what: I had two auditions within two weeks, and eventually caught on with a bar band out of Connecticut. We just celebrated eight years together.

You never know, you know? Best of luck!:thumbsup:
 
I had a good run as a founding member and have posted a few threads about this band before if you're interested in my backstory. Thread 1, Thread 2, Thread 3 The advice from this community has always been solid, and it’s helped me frame my experiences and move forward through the challenges.

The original lineup was casual, but over time, attrition led to recruiting stronger musicians, and my own playing with a bit more effort, reached a level where I wasn’t as intimidated by them. Though I still view myself as sort of an average player. One of them would still shout keys at me in the middle of a song as if I would adjust on the fly that easily. “Yeah thanks! F# maj, so does that mean the flat 7th is ok or not? I was a Suzuki kid so…” I also moved aside and gave up my mic to let new members shine but eventually missed being part of the front row and singing lead and interacting with the crowd when we played live. But such is the life of a bass player in an 8-piece band.

The last year was a good one. We played a big festival, getting our name on the poster and T-shirt! (It’s that band at the end in the smallest font, but we were thrilled nonetheless.) We got to hang with our biggest influences as peers and they seemed to appreciate what we were doing. We finished a recording project, tightened up our sound, had a successful run of shows in late summer/fall and even picked up an odd stalker fan or two which is the mark of true success, right?

I’ve had a lot of fun doing this. It’s been a huge part of my life, and while it’s not always been easy, I wasn’t planning on leaving yet, but as it turns out, I’m going to be moving out of state in about 6 months.

It’s been an odd feeling. I’m pretty good friends with these people, like a second family. We’ve been through a lot. They gave me a chance when I was just a new bass player with about a year of lessons under my belt, and after I leave only the founder/leader remains of the original lineup. Most of my time was spent frantically learning songs as we played a lot of different covers at first, varying our set quite a bit across different decades of the style, ska. As a result, I leaned pretty basic somewhat repetitive lines (which actually are common in ska) never much theory, no soloing, and kept to the lower 2/3rds of the neck. I’m not the kind of player who can sit in a key and improvise a lot of different walking bass parts at will during a song. I’m also more of a live player – but drift around a bit in the studio when the recording light comes on and the engineer starts comparing my wave to the drumbeats.

So on to my problem statement. I’m trying to figure out what’s next. I enjoy performing but am sure I can't make the cut in a true working band of veteran pros. I had considered taking a year, getting a teacher, and shoring up the holes in my technique and theory, but am worried that might be a drag. If I were super brave, I’d develop solo material and play an open mic, but really see myself as being better in a supporting role. I’ll know few people in the new town. Ska people like are close knit, but I’m not sure there’s any kind of scene in north Texas.

Looking for creative thoughts and appreciate any ideas. As always, thanks to this amazing community!

I'm thinking a bass player that can sing lead, provide good harmony, and be reasonably solid as a bassist is not going to be out of work long. You don't need to to be a virtuoso bassist, just solid, so don't sell yourself short.

I agree starting a study program, either self taught or with an instructor is a great idea. The more you know, the more you can do. Just make sure that you have reasonable expectations with progress. It will take time, dedication, and work.

Best wishes on the move. I've moved a round a bit over the last 50 years, and with each stop, I haven't regretted the move.
 
Lessons: Yes. Look for the right teacher who won't make it a drag.
Cover bands: Yes. Not much improvising, no recording. If not Ska, then try a new style.

Bass players are always in demand, so even if you're just average you should be able to find someone that needs you.

I see that bass players are always in demand, but that hasn't been my experience. In this area it seems like a handful of bass players play in all the bands. Now keys are in high demand.
 
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Taking lesson never hurts that is for sure.
I agree with putting together a band yourself. Have fun, it doesn't have to stop being part of who you are because you are moving. As most will tell you a bass player who can hold the pocket well, is certainly one who will be in demand. Don't dwell on your limitation, just do what you do well and people will notice :). Good luck with your continued journey through the low-end.
 
It really seems playing music is a huge part of your life. Start looking now for contacts in your new area. If lessons are what you feel you need, yes take some. I like online resources for learning. It's one dimensional but you can search for exactly what you want to learn. You can pause and replay videos. Don't take a break unless you feel you need to. Get with musicians in your new area and lessons at the same time. If you miss some of that upstage spotlight, start a project. I'm in that process now.
 
I see that bass players are always in demand, but that hasn't been my experience. In this area it seems like a handful of bass players play in all the bands. Now keys are in high demand.
I agree with you that keys players are hard to find, but I don't see too many people actively looking. I see mostly guitarists, drummers and singers looking for a band. Then I see bands looking for bassists. This is only my experience looking for a keys player...
 

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