Hmm...psychopathy is generally used interchangeably with sociopathy with sociopathy having become the preferred term. Antisocial personality disorder is something else.
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So. I'm a sociopath.
- Thread starter NekoTheWolf
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Don't fear or be ashamed of the diagnoses. This occurs naturally in every so many humans born. There must be a reason for it in the grand design. I would however recommend staying away from Politics or positions of power.
Is this the advice you give everyone who potentially has a mental condition? Not the first time I've seen you spout this. Just because you cannot see it, this doesn't mean it isn't real, it doesn't mean it's "academic theoriticians" looking for every tiny character flaw.
Don't accept victimhood, but don't just pass over mental health issues as if they don't exist.
You are lucky, I care about others (way too much than one should), am not a prick and am a unhappy, self destructive alcoholic.
Wish I was like you man...
The difference between you and I (apparently) is you don't have any concern if you hurt someone and will in fact hurt them if it serves your purpose. I on the other hand have no inherent desire to socialize with other humans.
You fake socialization because it allows you to manipulate people, I fake it to avoid being labeled a hermit who prefers his own company to that of others. At one time I faked it so often I found myself having trouble keeping up with who I was supposed to be in any given situation. You will find that false fronts, for whatever reason become tiring and more trouble than they are worth.
You can continue to be self centered A-hole, or you can make a conscious choice to step outside yourself and be more genuine in your feelings for others. This is most definitely a learned behavior and to avoid the work required to overcome your current personality defects by claiming you want to remain "true" to yourself is just another way of saying I prefer to be a self centered jerk because it gives me an excuse to screw people over. It also keeps all eyes on you, which if you talk to people in prison you will find the majority of them suffer from the same ego problem, they can't stand not being the center of attention which is how they wound up in jail to start with.
Short form here is, short of an organic cause, you can correct any personality traits you want if you are willing to put in the work required to do so, or you can continue to use your diagnosis as an excuse to act an ass.
By the time I found out what was going on in my addled brain I had almost ruined it with alcohol. I would have given anything to have known sooner because I could have started correcting the problem(s) sooner.
The fact that you acknowledge your negative personality traits is proof enough that you can correct those negative traits, if that is your desire, and you don't need drugs or specialized therapy or any kind of surgical procedure. All you need is the desire and willingness to do whatever it takes to modify your behavior.
Ignorance of your condition is the ONLY excuse you had for continuing, and that excuse has been removed. All that's left is the work to heal yourself, or rationalizing away any need to do something about what you are.
I doubt this is what you wanted to hear when you opened this thread. If you are typical of the type you opened it to feed your ego, or you were simply looking for validation of your decision to continue being a self centered jackhole. Either way, best of luck going forward. Oh and BTW make an effort to change or resign yourself to being old and alone. Trust me my friend, I've been to the rim of hell many times over and now that I'm old, it doesn't scare me near as much as the idea of old and alone.
You fake socialization because it allows you to manipulate people, I fake it to avoid being labeled a hermit who prefers his own company to that of others. At one time I faked it so often I found myself having trouble keeping up with who I was supposed to be in any given situation. You will find that false fronts, for whatever reason become tiring and more trouble than they are worth.
You can continue to be self centered A-hole, or you can make a conscious choice to step outside yourself and be more genuine in your feelings for others. This is most definitely a learned behavior and to avoid the work required to overcome your current personality defects by claiming you want to remain "true" to yourself is just another way of saying I prefer to be a self centered jerk because it gives me an excuse to screw people over. It also keeps all eyes on you, which if you talk to people in prison you will find the majority of them suffer from the same ego problem, they can't stand not being the center of attention which is how they wound up in jail to start with.
Short form here is, short of an organic cause, you can correct any personality traits you want if you are willing to put in the work required to do so, or you can continue to use your diagnosis as an excuse to act an ass.
By the time I found out what was going on in my addled brain I had almost ruined it with alcohol. I would have given anything to have known sooner because I could have started correcting the problem(s) sooner.
The fact that you acknowledge your negative personality traits is proof enough that you can correct those negative traits, if that is your desire, and you don't need drugs or specialized therapy or any kind of surgical procedure. All you need is the desire and willingness to do whatever it takes to modify your behavior.
Ignorance of your condition is the ONLY excuse you had for continuing, and that excuse has been removed. All that's left is the work to heal yourself, or rationalizing away any need to do something about what you are.
I doubt this is what you wanted to hear when you opened this thread. If you are typical of the type you opened it to feed your ego, or you were simply looking for validation of your decision to continue being a self centered jackhole. Either way, best of luck going forward. Oh and BTW make an effort to change or resign yourself to being old and alone. Trust me my friend, I've been to the rim of hell many times over and now that I'm old, it doesn't scare me near as much as the idea of old and alone.
I had decided earlier in the thread that I'm going to seek treatment, after all who wants to be labeled a selfish prick? Lol
I think we should make up a rule about this thread, only post if you have looked up the definition of sociopathy before you post. Lol
I'm not sure yet, I'm planning on talking to my psychiatrist about that Thursday. So far, the only thing it seems like I can do is learn impulse suppression, and learning social cues. And interacting with people in "positive" ways of course.
If this "psychiatrist" actually uses the term "sociopath" as a diagnostic label and thinks that an MRI has any validity whatsoever as a diagnostic marker for that concept--I'd really recommend that you seek a different mental health professional.
iamlowsound said:
That's the truth! After prison, the next highest concentration of sociopaths are found in corporate management.
Police, prosecutors, and surgeons also have high numbers.
That's the truth! After prison, the next highest concentration of sociopaths are found in corporate management.
Police, prosecutors, and surgeons also have high numbers.
Well I've had the fortunate opportunity to be a professional musician my whole life.
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Just a question for you. How do you see close personal relationships you've had and what do you base the relationships you do have upon? Is it purely on the assumption of 'what can I get out of this' or what other motivation is there?
I'm just interested in the dynamic you build for interactions with others. I've known a handful of people who fit in the same 'mold' and upon recognizing it, I've discontinued contact.
I'm just interested in the dynamic you build for interactions with others. I've known a handful of people who fit in the same 'mold' and upon recognizing it, I've discontinued contact.
A few pages in, he said he was diagnosed with ASPD, not sociopathy, he chose to use sociopath himself, probably assuming there would be a greater familiarity with that than ASPD. He also mentioned the reason for the MRI, to see if his frontal lobe was smaller than the average humans, which it indeed is. if you would have looked up the frontal lobe, instead of blaming the psychiatrist for wanting to run an unnecessary test you would see it's primary function is to recognize consequences from actions, suppress socially unacceptable behavior, and it processes emotional output from the limbic system. So, the MRI was necessary for the most accurate diagnosis of Neko.
The only reason id have a personal relationship is for emotional support, monetary support, or for physical reasons. But I do say whatever I need to say in order to get the person I've got my eye on in my bed. Haha!!!
Thank you! Didn't want to explain to people who didn't read the whole thread.
Why did you seek treatment/diagnosis? If it's not impairing your life, you wouldn't have gone to seek help, correct? What led you to this point?
I didn't actually go because I thought I had aspd. I went because of personal reasons.
I don't really need to "look up" on this topic. Regardless, the statement wasn't whether the frontal lobe is important for human functioning, but whether it has any sensitivity or specificity for diagnosing ASPD. And it doesn't....it isn't sensitive (i.e., Yang et al, 2005 Biological Psychiatry, no difference between controls and "successful" psychopaths) and it isn't specific (i.e., findings of reduced frontal gray matter in schizophrenia, alcohol dependence, and a host of other conditions). Perhaps the MRI was ordered to rule out a tumor or lesion in the frontal lobe (or elsewhere), so it might not have been an unnecessary test depending upon the behavior being exhibited. But it is almost entirely useless as a diagnostic indicator for ASPD. If you have a citation reporting its diagnostic efficiency for this use, I'd be interested to see it.
