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So..I'm uncultured white trash (wine content)

I'm much more of a beer snob than a wine snob. I might get a $20-30 bottle if I'm cooking something nice at the weekend, but for a midweek glass of wine in the evening I'm quite happy with 2 Buck Chuck.

This stuff is insanely popular. The yuppies in this town are trying to get a Trader Joe's here just so they can get there supply of 2 buck Chuck.

I remember reading a "Signs there is still a recession" article which quips that one of the signs is that sales of the stuff are significantly up.

TBH I couldn't tell you the difference between a $500 bottle of wine and gallon of Uncle Carlo.
 
Stinsox,

I am definitely in the drink-what-tastes-good-to-you-camp.
I've been know to drink lighter red wines with fish.

My only suggestion is to not limit yourself to $5 wines or the occasional $500 wine when someone else is paying. For my taste and budget - $10-15 is consistently the best bang for the buck.

There is a restaurant around here that will sell you a tray of 3 small glasses of the same wine type of increasing price. At least in the case of these particular Oregon pinot noirs - the least expensive was OK (maybe a tad fruity), the next one was better and the most expensive was better again.

Try the same thing at home with a $5, a $10 and a $15 bottle of the same wine type. The $10 and $15 aren't going to be twice or three times as good; but you might notice differences when you have them side-by-side.
 
I love wine. We have 5-10 bottles per week. I am fortunate to love very close to wine regions renown for their quality. I have been very fortunate to have enjoyed very expensive wines from Bordeaux and Burgundy.
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Wine education is a journey, not a destination. A life pursuit for some of us. I admit to being a total cork dork. :D

I co-opted this for me, with one little edit in red! I drink a lot of wine, and love it. (I'm also a sommelier, which exposes me to a lot of wine).

Home is stocked with several hundred bottles of wine, ranging in price from $10 to much, much more than that. Wine does not need to be expensive to be good. I'm a big fan of some lesser known varietals, and you can get great value there.

To answer the original question, I find wine incredibly complex. Wine, to me, is one of the immently most enjoyable things in life.
 
I'm not a wine snob, $10-35 on average, but 2 buck upchuck is gross. the whole "they use the same grapes" is like saying that grizzle and filet mignon are from the same cow.

I may not be able to pick it out of a crowd, but I will certainly not like it in a blind taste test.
 
Pfft, y'all aint lived until you've regurged this fine wine through the nose.....

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Although I also wouldn't personally pay the 1800 dollars for the 1971 first growth bordeaux i tried last year, I don't necessarily think it is strictly snobbish. Like Art, cars, instruments, hotel rooms, or anything else, there is going to be a high end. What makes a nearly 40 year old bordeaux expensive and exclusive is the fact that there will never be a wine that is completely identical to it. The way the grapes, soil, air temperature, moisture, acidity was that year will always be completely unique. It's no different than paying 1800 for a ticket to the superbowl and sitting on the 45 yard line, IMO.
Would I right now pay for a bottle like that? No. But might I someday? Absolutely! It is an experience in itself, and if it is something you are passionate about and have a couple friends or loved ones around to share it with, there is no wrong in it.

Two of my biggest passions are music and food, so fittingly they tend to be things that I don't always think about strictly in dollars and cents means. more so the sound in my head and whether I'm craving Halibut or fillet that night.

Cheers!
 
I'm not a wine snob, $10-35 on average, but 2 buck upchuck is gross. the whole "they use the same grapes" is like saying that grizzle and filet mignon are from the same cow.

I may not be able to pick it out of a crowd, but I will certainly not like it in a blind taste test.

Each unto their own, but I've never found it gross. A lack of personality is probably its greatest sin.

Not what I'd want to be drinking with a good meal - either something I cooked or when eating out - but when it's been a long day and we've just about got the energy to warm up leftovers in the microwave, it's completely fine.

(If we're talking good wine, the best I've drank in the last year or so is a 2004 Margaux accompanying some damn good Prime Rib at a local restaurant. That was for my mother's 60th though, not something I'm able to splash out for on a regular basis).
 
I co-opted this for me, with one little edit in red! I drink a lot of wine, and love it. (I'm also a sommelier, which exposes me to a lot of wine).

Home is stocked with several hundred bottles of wine, ranging in price from $10 to much, much more than that. Wine does not need to be expensive to be good. I'm a big fan of some lesser known varietals, and you can get great value there.

To answer the original question, I find wine incredibly complex. Wine, to me, is one of the immently most enjoyable things in life.

Oh you swine :D

2005 Margaux, onsite at Chateaux for the Union des Grands Cru in 2006. Also onsite at La Tour, Mouton Rothschild, Lafitte Rothschild, Angelus, Pave, Cheval Blanc, Ausonne, Cos D'Estournel, Pichon Longville.

One the same trip, on the way there by car, side trip to Burgundy doing barrel tasting at Sarafin Pere et Fils in Chevrey Chambertin. Then over to Philippe Chavy sampling 28-30 different chardonnay's from 2005. My closest friend is a wine importer in Vancouver and he focusses on the high end market. That's what go the private one on one appointments at the top producers.

BTW.....I'm sitting on 2 bottles of 2004 Tignanello. Too young to drink for another 2-4 years. Big wine.

I'll look you up when I come to SFO. :D
 
Oh you swine :D

2005 Margaux, onsite at Chateaux for the Union des Grands Cru in 2006. Also onsite at La Tour, Mouton Rothschild, Lafitte Rothschild, Angelus, Pave, Cheval Blanc, Ausonne, Cos D'Estournel, Pichon Longville.

One the same trip, on the way there by car, side trip to Burgundy doing barrel tasting at Sarafin Pere et Fils in Chevrey Chambertin. Then over to Philippe Chavy sampling 28-30 different chardonnay's from 2005. My closest friend is a wine importer in Vancouver and he focusses on the high end market. That's what go the private one on one appointments at the top producers.

BTW.....I'm sitting on 2 bottles of 2004 Tignanello. Too young to drink for another 2-4 years. Big wine.

I'll look you up when I come to SFO. :D

I have this 1933 Broadbent Malmsey Madeira at home. Man, oh man. One sip lingers in your mouth for 20 minutes. Brilliant!

I still haven't made it to France for a wine-tasting trip. Can you believe it? When I do, Chateauneuf-du-Pape, all the way! Of course, I'll go everywhere, but ....

You're more than invited for some sipping here in SF. The new world stuff is it's own beast. Yes, some of it is overpriced, too-high-alcohol, fruit bombs, but not all of it. There's some wonderful stuff coming from Sonoma and Mendocino here in my area. And the Williamette Valley in Oregon does great Burgundy-varietals.
 
I have this 1933 Broadbent Malmsey Madeira at home. Man, oh man. One sip lingers in your mouth for 20 minutes. Brilliant!

I still haven't made it to France for a wine-tasting trip. Can you believe it? When I do, Chateauneuf-du-Pape, all the way! Of course, I'll go everywhere, but ....

You're more than invited for some sipping here in SF. The new world stuff is it's own beast. Yes, some of it is overpriced, too-high-alcohol, fruit bombs, but not all of it. There's some wonderful stuff coming from Sonoma and Mendocino here in my area. And the Williamette Valley in Oregon does great Burgundy-varietals.

I was worried there'd be another serious cork dork on this thread.

I ran downstairs to pull out a wonderful pinot noir that is ready fro drinking. First off, though, I hold Burgundy as my benchmark for Pinot noir. That being said, I've discovered a really nice Californa pinot noir from St. Helena in the Santa Maria Valley. 2005 Villa Mt. Eden Grand Reserve. Ready for drinking now. Lovely finish. Classic Burgundy flavour. Impressive and not over the top on price. My favorite wine shop is clearing out remaining stock. Grabbed a couple of cases. Really nice.

Another nice wine on the rack is a 2005 Legaris Crianza Ribera from Spain. Not expensive, great structure, nice fruit and finish. Definitely worth tracking down.

Finished off the last of my 2003 Vieux Telegraphe from Chateauneuf du Pape. A good producer from that region worth checking out is Pierre Amadieu from Gigondas. Very nice. If your lucky enough to find a 2003, grab it.

2009 was a banner year for France. Grab it when it hits the shelves.

Basses, wine and flying. Aren't hobbies fun.

You could easily tie in a trip in a vertical line starting in Dijon, working through Nuit St. George, Mersault, Beaujolais (if you like gamay) region which leads you to Lyon at the top of the Rhone valley. Then you can take your time driving through such dull wine producing places like, um, Cote Rotie :D, Cornas, Crozes Hermitage, St.Joseph. Hang a hard left, climb the alps, take one of the many passes and descend into the Piedmont region and spend a night or two in Asti or Alba (as in Barbera D'Asti and Barbera D'Alba.

I know I'm torturing you and hi-jacking. Pm me.

(suddenly I'm in the mood for wine)