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So why ampeg?

Oh, why, oh why.

Well I have two ampegs first is a 96 SVT CL, which is a very nice sounding amp and that is why. And I also have a jt-12 guitar amp which I use for reamping and recording and lending to my guitarist, it has about the best trem I've ever come across, and that is why.
 
All the "history" talk got me thinking, my bad, the acceptable failure rate "back in the day" was concidered good at 10-15%. Yes I am talking about Ampeg as well as )(*&)&^(^%&, why do we get so flustered when ANY current brand has a failure today? Failure rates for most all brands are so much lower today then in the past.
Hope I'm not straying off topic? Maybe I am? Let me know Mods if I should delete this post.
 
This is not a thread about Acoustic amps and their delivery dates and such. Please keep the talk on how things relate to Ampeg amps and the corporation that makes them.

In other words, how Acoustic (or any brand) relates to Ampeg through history, technical specs, tone, users, etc. are, and have been, open for discussion. I apologize to anyone who thought I meant the comparisions and relationship between Acoustic and Ampeg amps was completely off limits in this thread.
Edited for better clarity.
 
All the "history" talk got me thinking, my bad, the acceptable failure rate "back in the day" was concidered good at 10-15%. Yes I am talking about Ampeg as well as )(*&)&^(^%&, why do we get so flustered when ANY current brand has a failure today? Failure rates for most all brands are so much lower today then in the past.
Hope I'm not straying off topic? Maybe I am? Let me know Mods if I should delete this post.
No, you should delete the idiots at LOUD. Of all the corporate bungling in Ampeg's history (and there's a lot despite putting out the best bass amps made), this is its worst chapter. This ain't "back in the day" anymore. This is 2007, where mass manufacturing has become pretty idiot-proof...unless of course you move the entire operation from a successful US location to an untried Vietnamese operation complete with replacement of all parts with Chinese parts, etc. etc. LOUD has a lot of 'splainin' to do, Lucy.

But Ampeg itself is the greatest name in bass amplification because lots of people like the sound of an SVT through an 810. End of story. Who cares? Play what you want and quit griping about what I play.
 
No, you should delete the idiots at LOUD. Of all the corporate bungling in Ampeg's history (and there's a lot despite putting out the best bass amps made), this is its worst chapter. This ain't "back in the day" anymore. This is 2007, where mass manufacturing has become pretty idiot-proof...unless of course you move the entire operation from a successful US location to an untried Vietnamese operation complete with replacement of all parts with Chinese parts, etc. etc. LOUD has a lot of 'splainin' to do, Lucy.

But Ampeg itself is the greatest name in bass amplification because lots of people like the sound of an SVT through an 810. End of story. Who cares? Play what you want and quit griping about what I play.

Again, not one soul here would disagree, especially me. There is nothing that I would love to see more than a resurgence of Ampeg (ala Acoustic - which was the whole point) and, until somone with more than a corporate agenda takes control, it won't happen. Until then, like most other defunct (or nearly defunct) companies, the speculation will run wild. But until the new Ampeg comes along, I will continue to look for its equal.......regardless of brand or logo.
 
I don't understand it either, so you are not alone.

I have been playing for 30 years, and to this day I do NOT like the Fender sound, nor do I like Ampegs tone.

It's a personal thing I guess, but alot of folks are guided by what they see on MTV and in the clubs.
Yes, if you use Ampeg or Fender, then you obviously can't think for yourself. Glad you pointed it out. Thanks for that.
 


Vetchking Here:

Just for clarity here:

After recieving warning notices from Talk Bass administrators. I stopped my busy life and learned how to re-edited my profile.

Hey, I didn't know.

Apparently, I'm not allowed to talk about imported crummy light bulbs..... or crummy drum sets or crummy bass amps. NO talk about the loss of jobs.

SO I won't.

***NOTE****

Some of the replys on this topic mention I should reveal my self.

After I changed my profile.......... all previous posts changed. So it makes the guys writing seem silly now.

At the time they were right.

I personally wish AMPEG the best. I mean that. I can't Imagine a world with out some great Ampeg's.

I am a musician, producer, gear junky first.

It seems due to life's funny twists, I am now the President of

The G.P.G. Co. "acoustic" USA.

Guitar Center/ has over 13 stock numbers of new "acoustic" product.

WWW.acousticamplification.com

View my company as (example ) "The Gibson" custom shop.

Combine both companies an you get something for
everyody.

Ampeg I wish you the best.........

Later.......... [email protected]
 
Ya, I'm looking forward to seeing what Acoustic USA has up its collective sleeve. And don't worry about Ampeg. As soon as it gets out of the hands of these bungling idiots, it'll be fine.
 
They were at one time. They won't get there with its current import product line, but if they put out new stuff that's close to what they put out in the 70's, they will. Acoustic was never my thing, but they did make quality stuff.

if they made a tuber, id consider buying one, i personally dont like Acoustic (what ive tried anyway)

meh....
 
Because moving a lot of air at one time is pretty sweet, not to mention you get a back massage in the process. I guess I get the best of both worlds.

I bought it because I loved the tone/sound and Ampeg's reputation was top notch... not to mention that there are some great players that swear by it. Lugging it around isn't the funnest, but I think it is worth it.

That doesn't mean I don't like other amps. I'm GAS'n for a MarkBass 4X10 cab. I borrowed my buddies 3X10 MarkBass and the sound was INCREDIBLE!

Just as everyone has stated, this is just my opinion and I respect that everyone has one.

Tim

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Vetchking; Good to meet you.

While I was rather certain you were a person with an agenda (a reason to promote a brand other than Ampeg), I also know that makes you no different than most who post here. While you may be more 'in the know' about the nuts and bolts, you also have your subjective reason to be pro-this, less-pro-that.

I use Ampeg because I was able to get my hands on my rig at an amazing price many years ago. I wanted a rig that would be the last rig I ever needed to buy and found it. I knew Ampeg was a name that had a strong history and great reputation and the friends I had advising me assured me that this rig would definitely live up to what I needed - and then some. History has shown that they were very correct. To be completely honest, I didn't fully appreciate the value of my score until years later when I learned much more about amps and speaker cabinets in general. But that does not change the fact that my Ampeg is a ROCK - not just a rock (style) rig, but a dependable, powerful and great sounding setup.

I also cited that because my particular setup (SVT II Pro + 810e) is all tubes and reasonably powerful, it tends to be very 'rock' in nature and that I felt other forms of music that, in my opinion, may call for a more 'clean', some may call it 'colder' or even 'brittle' delivery, that my setup might not be the first choice for players of those styles.

Don't get me wrong, however. While that's been my experience and is still my opinion, I also know that with a little adjustment it's highly likely that it could satisfy that more cold and brittle contingent as well - I just don't have that experience to draw from since the bulk of the music I play leans toward the more aggressive, 'rock' thing.

I am reasonably confident that the SVT 810e coupled with other amplifiers - Other Ampeg models, Acoustic, Mark Bass, GK, et al. will deliver the goods no matter what style of music one pushed through it. Having never used other amplifiers through my 810 (aside from my tiny GK RB200), I cannot speak from personal experience about how they'd do, but I can speculate. My assumption is that any other Ampeg of comparable spec but solid-state or mixed tube/SS, might certainly hit all the high spots for those clamoring for that bright, brittle, uber-clean thing.

But again, since my love lies in the growl and grit of tunes that lust for that all tube drive flavor and because my SVT II Pro + 810e give that in spades, I feel like I have the best amp in the world for what I do, which, if you look at all the best advice given here at TB, is what one should strive for when filling out their arsenal - gear that gives them what they need.
 
Its all about the TUBES.

Very few companies still produce an all tube bass amp. Ampeg SVT series, Fender Bassman 300, Early Orange AD200b are all great all tube choices.

You can spend your money buying assorted outboard gear to try to achieve the tone you really want. Or you could spend the extra money and go all tube. Plug straight in and be done with it. Simplicity is best and less really is more.
 


Vetchking Here: a quick tube note.

If you really play your amp a lot......... PS. ask any major rock guitar god, Marshall, etc......... or any big name bass player.

You have to re-tube and re -bias your amp.

Cost $300.00............. Do you tube guys really do that?

If not your amp hasn't sounded right in years..........

Also, the greatest designers all agree with the above statements.

Have a great one............... Later
 
Hello Vetchking,

I find my self swimming with the big fishes, but I hope to pull a Jonas. I think you generalize quite a bit in your posts. I know you want to make money selling amps (and I hope you do it with a great quality product), but I don't think you should bash a company that has had its ups and downs over so long a time period and still is around today. I am not a huge fan of what LOUD tech. has done to the Ampeg brand, however I have hope that Ampeg will continue on after this current slump.

In regards to post #120, what about the Mesa Boogie 400+ (it doesn't need to be re-biased) or the B4r (with MOSFET) for example. There are many different ways to approach what some would call "good tone". I honestly think I understand your points, heads should be able to make sounds that can be used in many styles of music, but why do you say that Ampeg only does one style/sound? There are a lot of great companies out there (more so today than in the past) but I don't think anyone will ever do the SVT sound like an SVT, which is a good thing. I have tried Eden, Gallien-Kreuger, Genz-Benz, MarkBass, Et. Al., and while I understand the need for tonal options, it seems to me that all of the above companies have a specific flavor of sound that is theirs. What is best is entirely up to the individual playing, listening, and buying the gear. And that is how it should be, I wish you all the best in your endeavors but simply ask, in the future please be more specific and unbiased with your comments. Thanks, Regards.
 

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