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Someone Stole all Your Bass Cabinets.......
- Thread starter Braciola
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That's an easy one for me. I would get another [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] cab by DNA. The first cab I bought from DNA was the [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] that I bought in 2015 because I could play anywhere with it. When I use it at outdoor festivals with my Eden 800-watt amp, I get told to turn down if I sneak the master up to 10:30. So I run it at 10:15 and all is right with the world. I thought it was going to be the last cab I'd need to buy...I was wrong.
When I would start to roll in my 410 cab to small venues like brew pubs, I invariably saw the owners eyes pop out of their head while they were shaking their head "NO". They typically made you play through a 112 combo that they had as their "backline". I could never seem to get a sound I liked out it. So, in 2019 when I was accepted into DNA's Endorsing Artist group, I bought the DNS-210. It handles 700-watts rms; has the same sonic characteristics as my DNS-410 (super clear, clean and articulate with a tightly focused bottom end); and it is LOUD. Using that same 800-watt Eden amp with it I will run it up to 10:30 on the master in large venues, but these are venues that I used to have to bring a 410 to. It's not the lightest 210 at 52-lbs, but it's a lot lighter than my 79-lb DNS-410, which I only use for outdoor venues and festivals now.
That cab with my 800-watt amp driving it is painfully loud. First time I used it was at an "almost large" venue and I wasn't sure it would be loud enough. So I brought along my DNS-410 which I knew could easily handle it, and stacked my DNS-210 on top of it so I could quickly unplug the 210 and plug in the 410 if the 210 wasn't enough.
We were playing a corner stage with the drums set up in that corner and the guitarist and I were set up in our small and shallow pie-slice shaped sections on either side of the drummer. For the sound check I walked the perimeter of the room (isn't wireless great!) then through the middle and then through the dance floor. Our sound seemed nicely balanced throughout the room and my 210 was plenty loud enough. When I got up on stage and started playing though, the level was painful. I had to move back next to the drummer physically behind my amp and cab. that cab was only 3 or 4-feet behind me when standing at my mic, so at the end of the song, I pushed my rig as far to my left as it would go. It was right up against our mains. Played the next song and had to move back by the drummer again. I was still inside that 60° cone of dispersion standing at my mic.
After the second song ended, I got a little help and moved our mains off the stage onto the floor and pushed my rig over farther and up towards the front of the stage a bit so I would be out of the cone of dispersion standing next to it. Absolutely could still hear it just fine but the level was no longer painful once I got behind that 60° cone of dispersion.
So that one cab will take care of everything with the possible exception of un-mic'd outdoor and festival situations. I haven't tried it with those because I really like using my DNS410 and I always pull it out for those. I primarily use it with my [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] class D amp now and since my cab is an 8Ω one (so I could run it with my Eden amp bridged at 800-watts) it only gets a max of 400-watts out of that DNA-800. But it's a sensitive cab and that works fine for small and medium cabs and I expect it will be fine for large indoor rooms too.
I actually wish I had bought my DNS210 cab first and then bought a second one later for outdoor venues and music festivals. That would have made more sense. As it is now, if I ever decide to run it with my 410, I'll be feeding it 800-watts to power the two of them. Below is a picture of the set up that one time I stacked it (this was before we played the first song). As I mentioned I only had the DNS210 plugged in and my DNS410 was just an expensive amp stand at this venue. Street price runs from $849 to $969 (price for Neos if they are still available).
That DNS-210 would absolutely be the cab I'd buy if everything else was stolen...again (had all my touring gear stolen back in 1976).
Your Sunn Concert 215 reminded me of my Standel MCIIb/SAM30b piggy-back amp that I bought in late 1971. I toured with that amp and it had a great sound and was crazy loud. The cab was powered and had two 100-watt amps inside it. It used one for each of the two CTS-15" speakers. Was a bass reflex cab with 4 round ports stacked vertically next to the speakers and if I was within about 3-feet of them it would flap my bell-bottom pants. That amp would project like crazy. But that was an $1150 amp back in 1971 and you never see those around anymore. You can get a glimpse of it peeking out behind me in this pic from Late 1971 or early '72. And yes that's my 1965 Jazz bass that I bought in 1966. All of that gear pictured here was stolen from me in '76 when the house we were staying in was burglarized...and that amp was no lightweight!
I mean I don't have cabs right now, but if I was given $1k to buy one to gig with, a Bergantino 410 or 212 would be my answer.
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With good monitoring, sure. But I vastly prefer the tone of a tube amp behind my back to any monitoring system I've tried. For that to work on large stages I need a bigger cab than a 2x12, unless I stay glued to the cab all night.
Just a matter of personal taste of course.
So Anyway, I'd be on the lookout for
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If I could find another one.
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If I could find another one.
I'd build another 212 Deltalite cabinet like I did a few years ago and have enough left over to build a 115 cab with a Beta 15 for home . Otherwise if I could find a used Genz 212 or a Subway 115 for under $1000 either would do .
OK in that context, I understand.
Maybe be you (and your back) would like one of these cabs:
GR Bass AT 610 :
Power Handling: 1200W RMS (AES Standard)
Weight: 16,5 Kg - 36,3 lbs
Frequency response: 35Hz to 22 kHz
Sensitivity: 106 dB SPL
GR Bass AT 810 :
Power Handling: 1600W RMS (AES Standard)
Weight: 21,5 Kg - 47,4 lbs
Frequency response: 35Hz to 22 kHz
Sensitivity: 106 dB SPL
I'm not found of the carbon fiber's aesthetics, but they are about to launch a new range of "natural fiber" cabs that I really dig.
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I don't really play through cabinets anymore (pretty much every gig I've had the last few years has been DI after the pedal board; into IEMs, it's nice!) but - assuming I didn't have to worry about the space it takes up in my house and I was going to spend up to a G on a cab, I'd try my hardest to find one of the sort of rare Ampeg 8x8s. That's not a typo: 8 x 8.
I had a buddy in college who randomly found one of those cabinets in a school music closet and talked them into selling to him (for a crazy cheap price). Playing through that thing was great. I loved it so much. It big and loud and pushed air, but it was really tight sounding, too. Nothing too subby got through- everything just sounded defined- even when it the amp was breaking up into some dirt, it was still defined. God, I loved that thing.
I expect if I found one now, it probably wouldn't live up to my memories of it...
I had a buddy in college who randomly found one of those cabinets in a school music closet and talked them into selling to him (for a crazy cheap price). Playing through that thing was great. I loved it so much. It big and loud and pushed air, but it was really tight sounding, too. Nothing too subby got through- everything just sounded defined- even when it the amp was breaking up into some dirt, it was still defined. God, I loved that thing.
I expect if I found one now, it probably wouldn't live up to my memories of it...
I'd be building a greenboy in no time flat
Very wise there, Marko! Big, heavy and not worth much on the used market...Maybe this, used from GC, $600 + tax.
You'd sound killer, and nobody would want to steal it!
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Similar…However your assessment is correct. Maybe slightly deeper with the Schroeder and punchier with the GK. We are also talking shades of Grey though as well. So take that for what it is.
I would wait as long as necessary for an Audiokinesis Changeling 112T to replace the one that got stolen—because I would miss it so much.
Probably have a custom Ampeg double baffles 2x15 made loaded with JBL k140s. And run my B100r with it.
