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Songs with "hooks" that don't work

Don Henley’s “Dirty Laundry”.

Abysmal.

Like a root canal

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He and I concur.
 
I would like to think it has the sound effects removed from the audio version.

Sorry, but the song smacks of trying too hard to be outrageous without any real feeling that they are. Like you actually believe someone like Amyl and the Sniffers are actually pretty outrageous in real life, but I don't believe it with this band. Plus the title should be a line in the song used once at the most, and better lyrics overall are needed.

I HATE sound effects over songs. And this is up there
 
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The hook........."They're coming to take me away, ha ha, etc."

It totally worked, and more memorable than you’d like to believe. Even the Beatles quoted it. Although it affected a very narrow age demographic, I still hear that line referenced on occasion. The most bizarre novelty tune that was ever a huge hit(for exactly two weeks), with the most unique chart trajectory…debuted outside of the Top 100 one week, went straight to #1 for the next two surveys, then dissapeared almost immediately, although some of that was from the content backlash along with the over-saturation.
The first rap? Maybe, maybe not😁
 
I think anybody that has to say “I’m dirty/tough/intelligent” or whatever is reliably not that thing
That reminds me of an interview with Tom Petty.

Tom was asked if he's a rebel. He leaned back in his chair, scratched his chin and said, "Well, I don't know..." Then he said, "If you have to say you're a rebel then you're probably not one."
 
"You ain't dirty enough for hard core!" could be a great shout-along hook in the right song, but not in the song the OP posted. It definitely feels like a "right hook, wrong song." It's as if the singer is trying to shoehorn too many words into a phrase, like putting a square peg into a round hole.

Here are a couple of songs in the vein of the song that OP posted that I think are good:
(Cutt, the band in the OP, should take lessons from Eva Under Fire and Dorothy).





All that said, props to that radio station in Iowa playing Cutt. It's not often a newer/lesser-known band gets repeat airplay to the point where even a bad hook still bubbled to the top of your brain. Most of the time, it's hit songs we've heard ad-nauseum.

That Dorothy song is pretty damn good :thumbsup:
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Joan Jett's third solo album had plenty of good hooks. But it didn't do that well after I Love Rock n Roll for some reason. Might have been too hooky. This lady should give it a listen. It's a real woman of rock classic.


I liked Joan Jett but there was always something about her seemed to say "Opening Act" for some reason :thumbsdown:
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Confirmation of that influence.



I never heard of that band before but their DIO covers are freakin fierce! Thanks for posting that :thumbsup:

Here's another that popped up after the Last In Line video when I watched. The singer nailed it in Last In Line! (and the others)

 
The bit at the beginning where the guy says “if anyone asks me to work hard I’ll just report them to HR.” That actually happens.

I worked at a company for a long time in an executive role, had respectful and non-provocative “let’s step it up” conversations now and then. On a few occasions I got calls from HR a few days later. General sense of the complaint was that I made the person feel uncomfortable.
 
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No one ever said Iowa has good taste.
Well, my first year college roommate was from Iowa and I have to say he had excellent taste. Kenny might have been outlier though. He did end up working for Summit Brewing, I think, and I hold them at least partially responsible for the IPA plague that is still raging across the land, so no one is perfect.
 
The bit at the beginning where the guy says “if anyone asks me to work hard I’ll just report them to HR.” That actually happens.

I worked at a company for a long time in an executive role, had respectful and non-provocative “let’s step it up” conversations now and then. On a few occasions I got calls from HR a few days later. General sense of the complaint was that I made the person feel uncomfortable.


Did you have the authority to frame it as an official "work review", and just schedule it in an office?

I guess if they know it's coming, they can't really complain that you singled them out in a conversation, and made them feel uncomfortable.

If someone isn't carrying their load, and is actively throwing up obstacles to you discussing it, and by extension them addressing their shortcomings ; by playing the system they've effectively manipulated the situation into the company having no choice but to let them go, and replace them with somebody that can do the job - whereas if they'd taken the guidance in the spirit it was given, everyone would be better off.
 
The song is meh and self-aggrandizing lyrics about being hardcore are best left to Scooter, but I've also made much worse music, so whatever.



I do think that hooks work backwards from this. It's a good hook that makes repetition an option, not the other way around. If you have a bit that's catchy enough, repeat it and make it sound big and important, then see how many repeats you can get away with. If it's catchy enough, you can even repeat Gusttavo Lima's "tche tche re che" or Earth, Wind and Fire's "ba dee ya". Or even Scooter's "yeah I - yeah I" above.

P,S. how about the "jeans jeans jeans jeans Vetements jeans, money money money money get more money" in this one? Not catchy in a melodic way, but I think it works for the song. Sounds obsessed and insistent, and that gets the right idea across, I think.

 
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