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I got my C4 six years ago, and though I spent quite some time playing with it at home, I never found it particularly useful at gigs. At some point, I felt like I couldn't really get the "target" tone I was after with it. So it sat on a shelf for a while. More about me & my tastes than anything about the pedal. Slowly, over the subsequent years, I acquired other SA pedals: EQ2, Atlas, LA Lady, Gemini, and Ventris-- with a goal of making a really versatile live rig both for guitar & bass.

I ended up actually needing an envelope filter and octaver for some show, so I re-visited my C4. I realized that with it's great bass tracking, octaving capabilities, staggering variety of filter types, distortion, and envelope tweaking abilities-- it needed to go to the front of my pedal chain. Pedal board is too short. So glad I kept it.

The signal path (and data control plan) is still a work in progress, but it's a super versatile rig.
 
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Happy New Year C4 users!

Quick question that's been puzzling me for quite a while but keep forgetting to post:

How /why does the envelope filter still have an effect even when Envelop OFF is selected under voice options ??

Example with @Quatschmacher 's excellent QM Mu-Tron Micro-Tron IV 11

Just one voice employed, routed through filter. But, tweaking envelop 1 sensitivity has a pronounced effect ...... (which I like btw)

I dont understand......Any advice much appreciated, cheers :)
 
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Sorry, update to previous post above.... It's tweaking the envelope Speed which has a clear effect (when envelope is switched off).
It may be using the other envelope from the one whose speed you were adjusting. Or you may have disabled the envelope on a different voice.

If that’s not the case and the envelope “off” setting isn’t working, then it needs reporting to @rsmith601
 
It may be using the other envelope from the one whose speed you were adjusting. Or you may have disabled the envelope on a different voice.

If that’s not the case and the envelope “off” setting isn’t working, then it needs reporting to @rsmith601
Hey Quatsch thanks for getting back so soon. I dont think its the first time I've discovered this .....
I'll run some more tests
 
what patches in the community are you guys using...I don't wanna be a hater but 90% of whats there is just insanely loud and not useful for much (at least for me) would like to see whats the most popular among tb peeps
I play mostly jazz & funk fusion bass. heres a list of community presets I am using -- I have a DMC to switch 100 presets. on all my presets I set the 2nd control knob to be output volume and put pedal into preset mode. this makes it much easier to A/B the wet and dry signals because yeah a lot of the community presets are ridiculously loud . some of these are spectrum presets also
Preset 001 - clean octaves
Preset 002 - Taurus
Preset 003 - EDM Swell
Preset 004 - Poly Pitch Swell
Preset 005 - Funk Dragon
Preset 006 - Flashlight Bass
Preset 007 - All there is
Preset 008 - Fat n Growly
Preset 009 - LIVING FOR THE CITY STEVIE WONDE
Preset 010 - Korg M1
Preset 011 - Fat "Portamento" Bass
Preset 012 - Take My Breath Away Bass
Preset 013 - DFunky Talker
Preset 014 - SynBones
Preset 015 - Axel F
Preset 016 - yeeEEAAHH
Preset 017 - Don't Stop Til You Get Enough
Preset 018 - Uptown Funk (bass intro)
Preset 019 - I Wanna Dance With Somebody
Preset 020 - Modern Punch
Preset 021 - Chameleon Bass #2
Preset 022 - Real Finesse!!
Preset 023 - BOXY SOUNDS
Preset 024 - Synthwave Juno Bass
Preset 025 - Slime Phase
Preset 026 - Growler
Preset 027 - Sean Murray - D&B Swell
Preset 028 - HC Moog 1 Oct Up
Preset 029 - Canned Heat
Preset 030 - Reese Bass
Preset 031 - SYNTH - Taurus
Preset 032 - Toothy Twins
Preset 033 - Deep Source - Dark Bubble
Preset 034 - Ensemble Brass & Reed
Preset 035 - Blue Monday Low & Nasty
Preset 036 - Pony (modifed)
Preset 037 - Whoow
Preset 038 - Technologic
Preset 039 - 24K MOOG
Preset 040 - 80's Bass
Preset 041 - Synth Bass
Preset 042 - Subdivisions
Preset 043 - Funky Octaves
Preset 044 - Super-Funky
Preset 045 - Wub-Wub Tremolo + Auto Wah
Preset 046 - Tha Wah Filter
Preset 047 - Q-Tron Foldover (Sitar Peak)
Preset 048 - Funny Thing
Preset 049 - Vinyl Crackle
Preset 050 - classic tremolo
Preset 051 - Spectrum - Bandpass
Preset 052 - Phaser/Chorus/Slapback Guitar
Preset 053 - Uni-Vibe
Preset 054 - FUZZ
Preset 055 - Play That Funky Music
Preset 056 - Lo-fi Filtertron Ambience C4
Preset 057 - Sean Murray - Mono Dirty Filter
Preset 058 - Bassballs Type 23
Preset 059 - Poly Pitch Swell
Preset 060 - Nobody Move
Preset 061 - 3-Stage Phaser
Preset 062 - Wind Sound
Preset 063 - Tron-Sitar
Preset 064 - Rotary Sim
Preset 065 - Qtron Fuzz
Preset 066 - MF-101
Preset 067 - Clean Octave
Preset 068 - Spectrum - Gated Phaser
Preset 069 - Tremvelope
Preset 070 - EnvPhaser
Preset 071 - Kinda Jerry
Preset 072 - 12 String-esque
Preset 073 - Simple Bit Crusher
Preset 074 - Phase 90
Preset 075 - Bass Autowah
Preset 076 - Octave Down Wah
Preset 077 - TPR Envelope Phaser
Preset 078 - Tron
Preset 079 - Beck
Preset 080 - TPR Gugrling
Preset 081 - Romeo Filter
Preset 082 - Fuzzy Meatball
Preset 083 - Double Mutron
Preset 084 - Clean Octave Down
Preset 085 - The Dirty Manta
Preset 086 - The Funk Factory MuTron
Preset 087 - OC-2 Envelope
Preset 088 - Phase 'n Funk
Preset 089 - Koolaid Man Fat Filter
Preset 090 - Spectrum - Gated Phaser
Preset 091 - Squishy Octave
Preset 092 - TPR Just a Phase
Preset 093 - Envelope Chorus
Preset 094 - Mutron Low Pass
Preset 095 - Tower of Fuzz
Preset 096 - Fwonkaholics Unanimous
Preset 097 - Juan's DiscumUPulator
Preset 098 - Rotary Phaser
Preset 099 - Zaledenuyu
Preset 100 - Red Alert
 
I play mostly jazz & funk fusion bass. heres a list of community presets I am using -- I have a DMC to switch 100 presets. on all my presets I set the 2nd control knob to be output volume and put pedal into preset mode. this makes it much easier to A/B the wet and dry signals because yeah a lot of the community presets are ridiculously loud . some of these are spectrum presets also
Preset 001 - clean octaves
Preset 002 - Taurus
Preset 003 - EDM Swell
Preset 004 - Poly Pitch Swell
Preset 005 - Funk Dragon
Preset 006 - Flashlight Bass
Preset 007 - All there is
Preset 008 - Fat n Growly
Preset 009 - LIVING FOR THE CITY STEVIE WONDE
Preset 010 - Korg M1
Preset 011 - Fat "Portamento" Bass
Preset 012 - Take My Breath Away Bass
Preset 013 - DFunky Talker
Preset 014 - SynBones
Preset 015 - Axel F
Preset 016 - yeeEEAAHH
Preset 017 - Don't Stop Til You Get Enough
Preset 018 - Uptown Funk (bass intro)
Preset 019 - I Wanna Dance With Somebody
Preset 020 - Modern Punch
Preset 021 - Chameleon Bass #2
Preset 022 - Real Finesse!!
Preset 023 - BOXY SOUNDS
Preset 024 - Synthwave Juno Bass
Preset 025 - Slime Phase
Preset 026 - Growler
Preset 027 - Sean Murray - D&B Swell
Preset 028 - HC Moog 1 Oct Up
Preset 029 - Canned Heat
Preset 030 - Reese Bass
Preset 031 - SYNTH - Taurus
Preset 032 - Toothy Twins
Preset 033 - Deep Source - Dark Bubble
Preset 034 - Ensemble Brass & Reed
Preset 035 - Blue Monday Low & Nasty
Preset 036 - Pony (modifed)
Preset 037 - Whoow
Preset 038 - Technologic
Preset 039 - 24K MOOG
Preset 040 - 80's Bass
Preset 041 - Synth Bass
Preset 042 - Subdivisions
Preset 043 - Funky Octaves
Preset 044 - Super-Funky
Preset 045 - Wub-Wub Tremolo + Auto Wah
Preset 046 - Tha Wah Filter
Preset 047 - Q-Tron Foldover (Sitar Peak)
Preset 048 - Funny Thing
Preset 049 - Vinyl Crackle
Preset 050 - classic tremolo
Preset 051 - Spectrum - Bandpass
Preset 052 - Phaser/Chorus/Slapback Guitar
Preset 053 - Uni-Vibe
Preset 054 - FUZZ
Preset 055 - Play That Funky Music
Preset 056 - Lo-fi Filtertron Ambience C4
Preset 057 - Sean Murray - Mono Dirty Filter
Preset 058 - Bassballs Type 23
Preset 059 - Poly Pitch Swell
Preset 060 - Nobody Move
Preset 061 - 3-Stage Phaser
Preset 062 - Wind Sound
Preset 063 - Tron-Sitar
Preset 064 - Rotary Sim
Preset 065 - Qtron Fuzz
Preset 066 - MF-101
Preset 067 - Clean Octave
Preset 068 - Spectrum - Gated Phaser
Preset 069 - Tremvelope
Preset 070 - EnvPhaser
Preset 071 - Kinda Jerry
Preset 072 - 12 String-esque
Preset 073 - Simple Bit Crusher
Preset 074 - Phase 90
Preset 075 - Bass Autowah
Preset 076 - Octave Down Wah
Preset 077 - TPR Envelope Phaser
Preset 078 - Tron
Preset 079 - Beck
Preset 080 - TPR Gugrling
Preset 081 - Romeo Filter
Preset 082 - Fuzzy Meatball
Preset 083 - Double Mutron
Preset 084 - Clean Octave Down
Preset 085 - The Dirty Manta
Preset 086 - The Funk Factory MuTron
Preset 087 - OC-2 Envelope
Preset 088 - Phase 'n Funk
Preset 089 - Koolaid Man Fat Filter
Preset 090 - Spectrum - Gated Phaser
Preset 091 - Squishy Octave
Preset 092 - TPR Just a Phase
Preset 093 - Envelope Chorus
Preset 094 - Mutron Low Pass
Preset 095 - Tower of Fuzz
Preset 096 - Fwonkaholics Unanimous
Preset 097 - Juan's DiscumUPulator
Preset 098 - Rotary Phaser
Preset 099 - Zaledenuyu
Preset 100 - Red Alert


Great list. I use a C4 and play similar stuff on gigs. I'm particularly interested in the Don't Stop Til You Get Enough, and Canned Heat
 
I play mostly jazz & funk fusion bass. heres a list of community presets I am using -- I have a DMC to switch 100 presets. on all my presets I set the 2nd control knob to be output volume and put pedal into preset mode. this makes it much easier to A/B the wet and dry signals because yeah a lot of the community presets are ridiculously loud . some of these are spectrum presets also
Preset 001 - clean octaves
Preset 002 - Taurus
Preset 003 - EDM Swell
Preset 004 - Poly Pitch Swell
Preset 005 - Funk Dragon
Preset 006 - Flashlight Bass
Preset 007 - All there is
Preset 008 - Fat n Growly
Preset 009 - LIVING FOR THE CITY STEVIE WONDE
Preset 010 - Korg M1
Preset 011 - Fat "Portamento" Bass
Preset 012 - Take My Breath Away Bass
Preset 013 - DFunky Talker
Preset 014 - SynBones
Preset 015 - Axel F
Preset 016 - yeeEEAAHH
Preset 017 - Don't Stop Til You Get Enough
Preset 018 - Uptown Funk (bass intro)
Preset 019 - I Wanna Dance With Somebody
Preset 020 - Modern Punch
Preset 021 - Chameleon Bass #2
Preset 022 - Real Finesse!!
Preset 023 - BOXY SOUNDS
Preset 024 - Synthwave Juno Bass
Preset 025 - Slime Phase
Preset 026 - Growler
Preset 027 - Sean Murray - D&B Swell
Preset 028 - HC Moog 1 Oct Up
Preset 029 - Canned Heat
Preset 030 - Reese Bass
Preset 031 - SYNTH - Taurus
Preset 032 - Toothy Twins
Preset 033 - Deep Source - Dark Bubble
Preset 034 - Ensemble Brass & Reed
Preset 035 - Blue Monday Low & Nasty
Preset 036 - Pony (modifed)
Preset 037 - Whoow
Preset 038 - Technologic
Preset 039 - 24K MOOG
Preset 040 - 80's Bass
Preset 041 - Synth Bass
Preset 042 - Subdivisions
Preset 043 - Funky Octaves
Preset 044 - Super-Funky
Preset 045 - Wub-Wub Tremolo + Auto Wah
Preset 046 - Tha Wah Filter
Preset 047 - Q-Tron Foldover (Sitar Peak)
Preset 048 - Funny Thing
Preset 049 - Vinyl Crackle
Preset 050 - classic tremolo
Preset 051 - Spectrum - Bandpass
Preset 052 - Phaser/Chorus/Slapback Guitar
Preset 053 - Uni-Vibe
Preset 054 - FUZZ
Preset 055 - Play That Funky Music
Preset 056 - Lo-fi Filtertron Ambience C4
Preset 057 - Sean Murray - Mono Dirty Filter
Preset 058 - Bassballs Type 23
Preset 059 - Poly Pitch Swell
Preset 060 - Nobody Move
Preset 061 - 3-Stage Phaser
Preset 062 - Wind Sound
Preset 063 - Tron-Sitar
Preset 064 - Rotary Sim
Preset 065 - Qtron Fuzz
Preset 066 - MF-101
Preset 067 - Clean Octave
Preset 068 - Spectrum - Gated Phaser
Preset 069 - Tremvelope
Preset 070 - EnvPhaser
Preset 071 - Kinda Jerry
Preset 072 - 12 String-esque
Preset 073 - Simple Bit Crusher
Preset 074 - Phase 90
Preset 075 - Bass Autowah
Preset 076 - Octave Down Wah
Preset 077 - TPR Envelope Phaser
Preset 078 - Tron
Preset 079 - Beck
Preset 080 - TPR Gugrling
Preset 081 - Romeo Filter
Preset 082 - Fuzzy Meatball
Preset 083 - Double Mutron
Preset 084 - Clean Octave Down
Preset 085 - The Dirty Manta
Preset 086 - The Funk Factory MuTron
Preset 087 - OC-2 Envelope
Preset 088 - Phase 'n Funk
Preset 089 - Koolaid Man Fat Filter
Preset 090 - Spectrum - Gated Phaser
Preset 091 - Squishy Octave
Preset 092 - TPR Just a Phase
Preset 093 - Envelope Chorus
Preset 094 - Mutron Low Pass
Preset 095 - Tower of Fuzz
Preset 096 - Fwonkaholics Unanimous
Preset 097 - Juan's DiscumUPulator
Preset 098 - Rotary Phaser
Preset 099 - Zaledenuyu
Preset 100 - Red Alert
I really need to update going thru creations for the C4 and try some of those that do sound interesting.

I am mostly using a Spectrum these days as well as the Artifakt that is in regular use on my recording and mixing desk.
 
I play mostly jazz & funk fusion bass. heres a list of community presets I am using -- I have a DMC to switch 100 presets. on all my presets I set the 2nd control knob to be output volume and put pedal into preset mode. this makes it much easier to A/B the wet and dry signals because yeah a lot of the community presets are ridiculously loud . some of these are spectrum presets also
Preset 001 - clean octaves
Preset 002 - Taurus
Preset 003 - EDM Swell
Preset 004 - Poly Pitch Swell
Preset 005 - Funk Dragon
Preset 006 - Flashlight Bass
Preset 007 - All there is
Preset 008 - Fat n Growly
Preset 009 - LIVING FOR THE CITY STEVIE WONDE
Preset 010 - Korg M1
Preset 011 - Fat "Portamento" Bass
Preset 012 - Take My Breath Away Bass
Preset 013 - DFunky Talker
Preset 014 - SynBones
Preset 015 - Axel F
Preset 016 - yeeEEAAHH
Preset 017 - Don't Stop Til You Get Enough
Preset 018 - Uptown Funk (bass intro)
Preset 019 - I Wanna Dance With Somebody
Preset 020 - Modern Punch
Preset 021 - Chameleon Bass #2
Preset 022 - Real Finesse!!
Preset 023 - BOXY SOUNDS
Preset 024 - Synthwave Juno Bass
Preset 025 - Slime Phase
Preset 026 - Growler
Preset 027 - Sean Murray - D&B Swell
Preset 028 - HC Moog 1 Oct Up
Preset 029 - Canned Heat
Preset 030 - Reese Bass
Preset 031 - SYNTH - Taurus
Preset 032 - Toothy Twins
Preset 033 - Deep Source - Dark Bubble
Preset 034 - Ensemble Brass & Reed
Preset 035 - Blue Monday Low & Nasty
Preset 036 - Pony (modifed)
Preset 037 - Whoow
Preset 038 - Technologic
Preset 039 - 24K MOOG
Preset 040 - 80's Bass
Preset 041 - Synth Bass
Preset 042 - Subdivisions
Preset 043 - Funky Octaves
Preset 044 - Super-Funky
Preset 045 - Wub-Wub Tremolo + Auto Wah
Preset 046 - Tha Wah Filter
Preset 047 - Q-Tron Foldover (Sitar Peak)
Preset 048 - Funny Thing
Preset 049 - Vinyl Crackle
Preset 050 - classic tremolo
Preset 051 - Spectrum - Bandpass
Preset 052 - Phaser/Chorus/Slapback Guitar
Preset 053 - Uni-Vibe
Preset 054 - FUZZ
Preset 055 - Play That Funky Music
Preset 056 - Lo-fi Filtertron Ambience C4
Preset 057 - Sean Murray - Mono Dirty Filter
Preset 058 - Bassballs Type 23
Preset 059 - Poly Pitch Swell
Preset 060 - Nobody Move
Preset 061 - 3-Stage Phaser
Preset 062 - Wind Sound
Preset 063 - Tron-Sitar
Preset 064 - Rotary Sim
Preset 065 - Qtron Fuzz
Preset 066 - MF-101
Preset 067 - Clean Octave
Preset 068 - Spectrum - Gated Phaser
Preset 069 - Tremvelope
Preset 070 - EnvPhaser
Preset 071 - Kinda Jerry
Preset 072 - 12 String-esque
Preset 073 - Simple Bit Crusher
Preset 074 - Phase 90
Preset 075 - Bass Autowah
Preset 076 - Octave Down Wah
Preset 077 - TPR Envelope Phaser
Preset 078 - Tron
Preset 079 - Beck
Preset 080 - TPR Gugrling
Preset 081 - Romeo Filter
Preset 082 - Fuzzy Meatball
Preset 083 - Double Mutron
Preset 084 - Clean Octave Down
Preset 085 - The Dirty Manta
Preset 086 - The Funk Factory MuTron
Preset 087 - OC-2 Envelope
Preset 088 - Phase 'n Funk
Preset 089 - Koolaid Man Fat Filter
Preset 090 - Spectrum - Gated Phaser
Preset 091 - Squishy Octave
Preset 092 - TPR Just a Phase
Preset 093 - Envelope Chorus
Preset 094 - Mutron Low Pass
Preset 095 - Tower of Fuzz
Preset 096 - Fwonkaholics Unanimous
Preset 097 - Juan's DiscumUPulator
Preset 098 - Rotary Phaser
Preset 099 - Zaledenuyu
Preset 100 - Red Alert
Nice list of presets. Do you have a system for finding the right preset during a gig?
 
Well I have only had the C4 for a couple of months and I have only had the opportunity to use it 2x so far on funk/rock/fusion Big band gigs, so I just wrote on my chart the preset name and number and switched it between tunes. if you set the DMC for a certain preset it will hold it between reboots and set the pedal for that when they start up. I admit I am finding the hundred presets are a lot of presets, and I might narrow it down to like 50 --right now too preset 002-042 are synth bass and the others are "FX-only". but I may organize them better in the future. . for those interested, here is my latest C4 backup file with an emphasis on bass synths and FX. none of these have sequencer or harmonizer. not all the patches have been completely tweaked as far as output goes, maybe like 50% of them-I am still in the process. if you want to quickly try out all these, just load up this file, but use at your own risk - I am not responsible for bricking your pedal. I would backup your pedal before loading. I backup my C4 every time I make a bunch of major changes because I have had it lose my presets, especially if you turn it off, then on again quickly. it doesn't like that!!. I kind of wish SA would provide some curated presets as backup files for guitar and bass for C4 like they do for the bass multiwave, but maybe some experienced users can post some backup files here we can load up and try out their patches? rename the file davesbass C4 6.2.osbf.txt to davesbass C4 6.2.osbf and load it with Neuro desktop
 

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Nice list of presets. Do you have a system for finding the right preset during a gig?


For songs which I use 2-3 patches, I may duplicate patches on additional presets. For example, if I use a synth patch and octave patch at different times on one song, and a envelope patch and octave patch on a different song, I will create 2-4 additional patches with duplicate FX right next to each other. I have a DMC Micro Pro and I will label everything accordingly.
 
Well I have only had the C4 for a couple of months and I have only had the opportunity to use it 2x so far on funk/rock/fusion Big band gigs, so I just wrote on my chart the preset name and number and switched it between tunes. if you set the DMC for a certain preset it will hold it between reboots and set the pedal for that when they start up. I admit I am finding the hundred presets are a lot of presets, and I might narrow it down to like 50 --right now too preset 002-042 are synth bass and the others are "FX-only". but I may organize them better in the future. . for those interested, here is my latest C4 backup file with an emphasis on bass synths and FX. none of these have sequencer or harmonizer. not all the patches have been completely tweaked as far as output goes, maybe like 50% of them-I am still in the process. if you want to quickly try out all these, just load up this file, but use at your own risk - I am not responsible for bricking your pedal. I would backup your pedal before loading. I backup my C4 every time I make a bunch of major changes because I have had it lose my presets, especially if you turn it off, then on again quickly. it doesn't like that!!. I kind of wish SA would provide some curated presets as backup files for guitar and bass for C4 like they do for the bass multiwave, but maybe some experienced users can post some backup files here we can load up and try out their patches? rename the file davesbass C4 6.2.osbf.txt to davesbass C4 6.2.osbf and load it with Neuro desktop
Thanks Davesbass!
 
I play mostly jazz & funk fusion bass. heres a list of community presets I am using -- I have a DMC to switch 100 presets. on all my presets I set the 2nd control knob to be output volume and put pedal into preset mode. this makes it much easier to A/B the wet and dry signals because yeah a lot of the community presets are ridiculously loud . some of these are spectrum presets also
Preset 001 - clean octaves
Preset 002 - Taurus
Preset 003 - EDM Swell
Preset 004 - Poly Pitch Swell
Preset 005 - Funk Dragon
Preset 006 - Flashlight Bass
Preset 007 - All there is
Preset 008 - Fat n Growly
Preset 009 - LIVING FOR THE CITY STEVIE WONDE
Preset 010 - Korg M1
Preset 011 - Fat "Portamento" Bass
Preset 012 - Take My Breath Away Bass
Preset 013 - DFunky Talker
Preset 014 - SynBones
Preset 015 - Axel F
Preset 016 - yeeEEAAHH
Preset 017 - Don't Stop Til You Get Enough
Preset 018 - Uptown Funk (bass intro)
Preset 019 - I Wanna Dance With Somebody
Preset 020 - Modern Punch
Preset 021 - Chameleon Bass #2
Preset 022 - Real Finesse!!
Preset 023 - BOXY SOUNDS
Preset 024 - Synthwave Juno Bass
Preset 025 - Slime Phase
Preset 026 - Growler
Preset 027 - Sean Murray - D&B Swell
Preset 028 - HC Moog 1 Oct Up
Preset 029 - Canned Heat
Preset 030 - Reese Bass
Preset 031 - SYNTH - Taurus
Preset 032 - Toothy Twins
Preset 033 - Deep Source - Dark Bubble
Preset 034 - Ensemble Brass & Reed
Preset 035 - Blue Monday Low & Nasty
Preset 036 - Pony (modifed)
Preset 037 - Whoow
Preset 038 - Technologic
Preset 039 - 24K MOOG
Preset 040 - 80's Bass
Preset 041 - Synth Bass
Preset 042 - Subdivisions
Preset 043 - Funky Octaves
Preset 044 - Super-Funky
Preset 045 - Wub-Wub Tremolo + Auto Wah
Preset 046 - Tha Wah Filter
Preset 047 - Q-Tron Foldover (Sitar Peak)
Preset 048 - Funny Thing
Preset 049 - Vinyl Crackle
Preset 050 - classic tremolo
Preset 051 - Spectrum - Bandpass
Preset 052 - Phaser/Chorus/Slapback Guitar
Preset 053 - Uni-Vibe
Preset 054 - FUZZ
Preset 055 - Play That Funky Music
Preset 056 - Lo-fi Filtertron Ambience C4
Preset 057 - Sean Murray - Mono Dirty Filter
Preset 058 - Bassballs Type 23
Preset 059 - Poly Pitch Swell
Preset 060 - Nobody Move
Preset 061 - 3-Stage Phaser
Preset 062 - Wind Sound
Preset 063 - Tron-Sitar
Preset 064 - Rotary Sim
Preset 065 - Qtron Fuzz
Preset 066 - MF-101
Preset 067 - Clean Octave
Preset 068 - Spectrum - Gated Phaser
Preset 069 - Tremvelope
Preset 070 - EnvPhaser
Preset 071 - Kinda Jerry
Preset 072 - 12 String-esque
Preset 073 - Simple Bit Crusher
Preset 074 - Phase 90
Preset 075 - Bass Autowah
Preset 076 - Octave Down Wah
Preset 077 - TPR Envelope Phaser
Preset 078 - Tron
Preset 079 - Beck
Preset 080 - TPR Gugrling
Preset 081 - Romeo Filter
Preset 082 - Fuzzy Meatball
Preset 083 - Double Mutron
Preset 084 - Clean Octave Down
Preset 085 - The Dirty Manta
Preset 086 - The Funk Factory MuTron
Preset 087 - OC-2 Envelope
Preset 088 - Phase 'n Funk
Preset 089 - Koolaid Man Fat Filter
Preset 090 - Spectrum - Gated Phaser
Preset 091 - Squishy Octave
Preset 092 - TPR Just a Phase
Preset 093 - Envelope Chorus
Preset 094 - Mutron Low Pass
Preset 095 - Tower of Fuzz
Preset 096 - Fwonkaholics Unanimous
Preset 097 - Juan's DiscumUPulator
Preset 098 - Rotary Phaser
Preset 099 - Zaledenuyu
Preset 100 - Red Alert
Thanks for sharing your list. Some familiar names there plus new intriguing ones to investigate.....

With so many parameters to build presets with on the C4 , it's easy to build a huge collection and suffer option overload!

I've got nearly the full 127 presets stored on the pedal. Try to keep in blocks, according to type eg octaves, envelopes etc. I've learnt to be disciplined.... If I discover or create a new exciting preset, then I have to delete one that I rarely use, to make space to store it.

For what it's worth, I'm pleased I invested in the Morningstar MC6 Pro. Can assign presets to a designated coloured block - I have 6 groups as below. Navigate from that screen (each group has a stomp button by it), into each group section of presets.

For band set lists, I have another section, with easy stepping from song to song in sequence.
 

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For songs which I use 2-3 patches, I may duplicate patches on additional presets. For example, if I use a synth patch and octave patch at different times on one song, and a envelope patch and octave patch on a different song, I will create 2-4 additional patches with duplicate FX right next to each other. I have a DMC Micro Pro and I will label everything accordingly.
hey on your DMC micro do you have it set so all the patches engage the pedal or bypass it? thats one thing that bugs me about it- you can only set each preset to bypass or engage individually. if you set them all to engage you can quickly hear all the presets but it always engages the pedal on power on. which i hate. if you set them all to bypass it does not engage the switch on power up, but you can scroll through presets with the pedal off.
they need to have more options. like an option that lets you have all presets set to engage but does not engage the pedal on power on, global engage/bypass all patches so you dont have to click each one individually . etc
 
Morningstar MC6 Pro looks like a totally different level than the DMC micro pretty amazing what you can do with that.
Yeah, the range of functionality is pretty cool. Couldn't do without it now.

I like using the C4 in combination with the Ultrawave. So I have displayed banks of say C4 subs with UW compressors or different fuzzes. Just stomp on the assigned foot switch and the 'in use' sub switches off and different sub comes on. Commands are signed to One click. Or 1 click for switching both C4 and UW together.
Stomp on 2 switches together for navigating through different banks.
Doesn't matter what order presets are on the pedals - using the preset number.
 
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For songs which I use 2-3 patches, I may duplicate patches on additional presets. For example, if I use a
Yeah, the range of functionality is pretty cool. Couldn't do without it now.

I like using the C4 in combination with the Ultrawave. So I have displayed banks of say C4 subs with UW Hocompressors or different fuzzes. Just stomp on the assigned foot switch and the 'in use' sub switches off and different sub comes on. Commands are signed to One click. Or 1 click for switching both C4 and UW together.
Stomp on 2 switches together for navigating through different banks.
Doesn't matter what order presets are on the pedals - using the preset number.
i also have the dmc micro and love it’s simplicity. Being a midi novice it worked perfectly for switching presets on my SA pedals along with the neuro hub but it is pretty limited in what it can do. That being said I have heard great things about the MC6. How hard is it to program and do you still need the neuro hub? What types of things can the MC6 do that the DMC can’t?
 
MC6 does more of everything. Controls more than 4 devices and offers a wider variety of midi command types. Wider variety of button press types and the menu screen scrolling is configurable. The MC6 pro offers USB host so the hub shouldn't be necessary (haven't tested this myself yet and tbf the newest DMC micro v4 now has this feature). Programming is also a web interface with a slightly steeper learning curve just because of all the additional possibilities.
 
MC6 does more of everything. Controls more than 4 devices and offers a wider variety of midi command types. Wider variety of button press types and the menu screen scrolling is configurable. The MC6 pro offers USB host so the hub shouldn't be necessary (haven't tested this myself yet and tbf the newest DMC micro v4 now has this feature). Programming is also a web interface with a slightly steeper learning curve just because of all the additional possibilities.
Mc6 is quite the treat for deep midi nerds like me.


Without nerding out, there is a lot of complex programming possible with the mc6. Some of these switches are using all 32 messages within there presets, and on average around 20 messages per switch (lots of combinations of positions, shift, r press, long press, double tap, long double tap). No other midi controller comes close in my opinion, and this is coming from using a dmc micro gen4, soleman, airstep, and reflex all at the same time previous to the mc6 and pednetics aux 8.