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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

Hold down both footswitches to enter navigation mode; then use left footswitch to go down, right to go up. Hold both switches to exit that mode. Works in either engage or bypass, so you can even use it when playing to move to the next/previous preset.

For the Microtron patch, turn up resonance (vary). It was saved too low when one of the SA guys made the factory backup file. It has been corrected on the latest file so once you update/refresh firmware it should be correct. I have to respectfully disagree that Spectrum can do similar. I tried making this patch on Spectrum for ages, using different envelope responses and filter settings. It does not get the same juicy resonance as the Artifakt, nor does the envelope response get this close to the original I used to create the patches.
Thanks for that, that's really appreciated.

I've only had a few hours play time with it through my home practise amp. I probably need to listen with my headphones....that little amp...isn't the most sonically resolved!
 
Ah...typical developer sppeak..."it work's fine on my machine!"
My local copy of Neuro 3.0.13 isn't connecting to your website or my attached USB connected pedals. In fact...it's not doing much at all. Everything i click on has orange spinny wheels. I can see each device in Device manager...just not in neuro.
I have tried other USB ports...other USB devices (all fine...h90 communicating via USB fine). I have logged out, uninstalled, deleted Neuro folders located in my profile, deleted left over files in my C:\\Program files(x86)\Source Audio.

I did notice that Neuro 3 did not uninstall the older legacy version on my machine. As far as Neuro / Neuro 3 goes at the moment...I have nothing working. Shall I raise it as a support call?
I kind of assumed that I wasn't the only person in this situation...but maybe i am!

****Update****
The problem seems to be with neuro_desktop_3_0_13_installer_win.msi
If I remove it and install the previous version: Neuro_Desktop_3_0_9_installer_win.msi in seems my USB attached pedals and connects to the Neuro Community. So it looks like there's something wrong with this build / release of Neuro 3.0.13

When I uninstall and re-install Ver 3.0.13, it seems to re-use some cached username and password details. However a fresh install of 3.0.9 always asks for a username and Pasword on first run. I suspect v3.0.13 is caching some user / account details somewhere and it's corrupted and can't re-load it. I may be the first to discover this. Intetrestingly I cleaned the registry and the Source Audio folder in my Profile and 3.0.13 still did a fresh install without asking my Neuro username and password on first run.

I guess there's a new version coming soon?
Very strange. Let's see what happens after the next update.
 
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Very strange. Let's see what happens after the next update.
This moring, I re-upgraded using the later Neuro installer (3.0.13) and it upgraded as expected on my Windows device. Now I can see the Artifakt in my device list when I plug it in via USB. The wasn't happening before and it's the first time I've seen the Artifakt in Neuro. I can see all of the pedal's presets and their settings. I'm loving the dirt options...you have packed a LOT into this pedal. I didn't think that the Artifakt had been integrated into Neuro, so it';s the first time I've got this part working and it's amazing. The last few day's I've only been working with the pedal at a hardware level, now Ican see what's happening under the hood and I'm liking what I'm seeing.

As a fan and consumer of Source Audio products, there are three things that are being presented to me with the Artifakt. Each is massive and ground breaking. This is Source Audio "The Next generation"...sorry about the Star trek reference. I think we'll be talking about how the Source Audio have changed or evolved post 2024 for some time.

Firstly, Neuro 3. This new interface is very modern and sleek. The old Neuro (2?) was klunky and I'm going to use a Statr Trek reference. It made me think of what it would be like to drive the consoles on the old TV USS Enterprise, the original 1960's controls. Everything was there...but you had to learn it's quirks. Neuro 3 is literally "the next generation", it now feels sleek and beautiful and it's like the displays on the Enterprise D. Not just functional but elegant and actually nice to use. It's tactile and has a great balance between form and function. I would dar to say that Neuro has matured as product to the point that it may well be the best of breed and light to all the other manufacturers saying...boys...this is how you design a desktop user interface. By "boys"....I mean Eventide, Strymon, EHX, Boss. Seriosuly, this is world class and it almost brought a tear to my eye.
It works, it's beautiful and it's a joy to use. I love the ease that I can navigate local settings, hub scenes, local / published presets and community presets.

Secondly, the new hardware chassis that is being presented with the Artifakt. OMG this is another revolution in a box. This is obviously the new small box One Series...the next generation (soz..another Star trek-ism again). I love the 3 way toggle on the Mod knob....THAT is genius level of function and control, while being VERY Source Audio. It reminds me of the Sound Blox 2 tone shaping options and it's a fantastic way of allowing a lot of control, on the fly , quickly and easily, while using minimal presented hardware controls. It's a single knob and a 3 way switch....brilliant! It's like a return to the Sound Blox 2, only better.

I can easily see this hardware chassis being used to slowly replace the really older smaller One Series units. This hardware really lend itself to what Source Audio does best, a small device that only does one genre. Unlike most multi FX, which do a lot but not necessarilty, everything as well. Source Audio makes specific pedals that don't step outside their intentional parameters. With Source Audio, you are buying a specific type of pedal that does that role exceptionally well. It's like buying a Hi Fi component and not an all in one. With my experiance of Source Audio, usually their pedals are the best of breed in that particular type. I think dirt, the aftershock or ultrawave...boom. I think filter...Spectrum...boom. Compression...Atlas...boom.
This hardware could be the platform that gives Source Audio the opportunitiy to do something with all of the really old One Series pedals that are getting a little stale in their catalogue. I would buy in a heart beat a modulation pedal in this format, or Dirt for that matter. Can you imagine the integration of all 4 of SA's excellent modulation pedals in to this one chassis. I think the Spectrum / filters would work on this chassis too, the ultrawave and C4 would probably need another chassis because they aren't so diven by specific engines.
Seriously guys...this is a stunning piece of engineering and product development. Time to start revising your older pedals!

And thridly, the Artifakt's software layer. Well...i didn't see this coming! It's a crazy delight of what intially appears to be a random collection of engines placed into the new chassis to show case what the new hardware platform can do. Like all the best Source Audio pedals, it's slightly overwhelming and perplexing. It's remit is "anything that destructs your signal" and it does that exceedingly well. Possibly because it's the only pedal like this currently available and it's setting the bar very high. In subtractive Synthesis it's what control you have in systematically taking away from the oscillators that gives you your patch. In a mixing desk it's what you cut that gives you your mix....withthis pedal it's what you destroy, warp, glitch, filter etc...that gives you a very unique charector. Often I'm finding that I am re-creating some kind of 1930's gramaphone sound. I love it, but it's not what I expected.
It's got a great bit crusher....an awesome Ladder filter, the dirt options is suprisingly wide ranging and versatile. It has some limited compression, it has a really capably delay engine which also feeds the modulation options. It's like a well thought out collection of spare parts put together to create something very new, unique and special. it reminds me of when my wife makes a "hot pot" fro dinner. it's liek a random collection of (good) left overs put into a new meal to make some thing new and very tasty. Except Source Audio haven't put scraps or left overs in to this very carefully crafted hot pot...they have put their best bits and carfted something extraordinary.

So...did I need this pedal? No....I didn't know I needed it before the Artifakt came along.
Do I need this pedal? At the moment, i'm not sure. I'm still working through it's practical and musical application. However, life is much more than practical needs...we all buy things we love...not just the things we need. It's what makes life fun and enjoyable and not just about survival.
Do I want this pedal...hell YES! It's a lot of suprising fun.
Would I advise this pedal? Certainly...it's not what you expect. Under the hood, you can do a lot with this pedal. It can cover a lot of ground...however sticking to just it's "destructor" nature, this pedal is unexpected and a suprise. On bass it might not have a massive application (a bit like a fish eye lens in photography), however in the right context it can add some really nice new things to a tonal pallet. On bass specifically; the ladder filter, dirt, reverb, delay and modulation options all have useful application, but that isn't this kind of pedal. It's intention is to crush, destruct, glitch, thin, warble and flutter your world and it does this amazingly well.

So that's my observations from the last 2 days from unboxing the Artifakt.
 
This moring, I re-upgraded using the later Neuro installer (3.0.13) and it upgraded as expected on my Windows device. Now I can see the Artifakt in my device list when I plug it in via USB. The wasn't happening before and it's the first time I've seen the Artifakt in Neuro. I can see all of the pedal's presets and their settings. I'm loving the dirt options...you have packed a LOT into this pedal. I didn't think that the Artifakt had been integrated into Neuro, so it';s the first time I've got this part working and it's amazing. The last few day's I've only been working with the pedal at a hardware level, now Ican see what's happening under the hood and I'm liking what I'm seeing.

As a fan and consumer of Source Audio products, there are three things that are being presented to me with the Artifakt. Each is massive and ground breaking. This is Source Audio "The Next generation"...sorry about the Star trek reference. I think we'll be talking about how the Source Audio have changed or evolved post 2024 for some time.

Firstly, Neuro 3. This new interface is very modern and sleek. The old Neuro (2?) was klunky and I'm going to use a Statr Trek reference. It made me think of what it would be like to drive the consoles on the old TV USS Enterprise, the original 1960's controls. Everything was there...but you had to learn it's quirks. Neuro 3 is literally "the next generation", it now feels sleek and beautiful and it's like the displays on the Enterprise D. Not just functional but elegant and actually nice to use. It's tactile and has a great balance between form and function. I would dar to say that Neuro has matured as product to the point that it may well be the best of breed and light to all the other manufacturers saying...boys...this is how you design a desktop user interface. By "boys"....I mean Eventide, Strymon, EHX, Boss. Seriosuly, this is world class and it almost brought a tear to my eye.
It works, it's beautiful and it's a joy to use. I love the ease that I can navigate local settings, hub scenes, local / published presets and community presets.

Secondly, the new hardware chassis that is being presented with the Artifakt. OMG this is another revolution in a box. This is obviously the new small box One Series...the next generation (soz..another Star trek-ism again). I love the 3 way toggle on the Mod knob....THAT is genius level of function and control, while being VERY Source Audio. It reminds me of the Sound Blox 2 tone shaping options and it's a fantastic way of allowing a lot of control, on the fly , quickly and easily, while using minimal presented hardware controls. It's a single knob and a 3 way switch....brilliant! It's like a return to the Sound Blox 2, only better.

I can easily see this hardware chassis being used to slowly replace the really older smaller One Series units. This hardware really lend itself to what Source Audio does best, a small device that only does one genre. Unlike most multi FX, which do a lot but not necessarilty, everything as well. Source Audio makes specific pedals that don't step outside their intentional parameters. With Source Audio, you are buying a specific type of pedal that does that role exceptionally well. It's like buying a Hi Fi component and not an all in one. With my experiance of Source Audio, usually their pedals are the best of breed in that particular type. I think dirt, the aftershock or ultrawave...boom. I think filter...Spectrum...boom. Compression...Atlas...boom.
This hardware could be the platform that gives Source Audio the opportunitiy to do something with all of the really old One Series pedals that are getting a little stale in their catalogue. I would buy in a heart beat a modulation pedal in this format, or Dirt for that matter. Can you imagine the integration of all 4 of SA's excellent modulation pedals in to this one chassis. I think the Spectrum / filters would work on this chassis too, the ultrawave and C4 would probably need another chassis because they aren't so diven by specific engines.
Seriously guys...this is a stunning piece of engineering and product development. Time to start revising your older pedals!

And thridly, the Artifakt's software layer. Well...i didn't see this coming! It's a crazy delight of what intially appears to be a random collection of engines placed into the new chassis to show case what the new hardware platform can do. Like all the best Source Audio pedals, it's slightly overwhelming and perplexing. It's remit is "anything that destructs your signal" and it does that exceedingly well. Possibly because it's the only pedal like this currently available and it's setting the bar very high. In subtractive Synthesis it's what control you have in systematically taking away from the oscillators that gives you your patch. In a mixing desk it's what you cut that gives you your mix....withthis pedal it's what you destroy, warp, glitch, filter etc...that gives you a very unique charector. Often I'm finding that I am re-creating some kind of 1930's gramaphone sound. I love it, but it's not what I expected.
It's got a great bit crusher....an awesome Ladder filter, the dirt options is suprisingly wide ranging and versatile. It has some limited compression, it has a really capably delay engine which also feeds the modulation options. It's like a well thought out collection of spare parts put together to create something very new, unique and special. it reminds me of when my wife makes a "hot pot" fro dinner. it's liek a random collection of (good) left overs put into a new meal to make some thing new and very tasty. Except Source Audio haven't put scraps or left overs in to this very carefully crafted hot pot...they have put their best bits and carfted something extraordinary.

So...did I need this pedal? No....I didn't know I needed it before the Artifakt came along.
Do I need this pedal? At the moment, i'm not sure. I'm still working through it's practical and musical application. However, life is much more than practical needs...we all buy things we love...not just the things we need. It's what makes life fun and enjoyable and not just about survival.
Do I want this pedal...hell YES! It's a lot of suprising fun.
Would I advise this pedal? Certainly...it's not what you expect. Under the hood, you can do a lot with this pedal. It can cover a lot of ground...however sticking to just it's "destructor" nature, this pedal is unexpected and a suprise. On bass it might not have a massive application (a bit like a fish eye lens in photography), however in the right context it can add some really nice new things to a tonal pallet. On bass specifically; the ladder filter, dirt, reverb, delay and modulation options all have useful application, but that isn't this kind of pedal. It's intention is to crush, destruct, glitch, thin, warble and flutter your world and it does this amazingly well.

So that's my observations from the last 2 days from unboxing the Artifakt.
It’s nice to hear confirmed some of the things I’ve been mentioning, like the fun aspect and harking back to the SB2 way of controlling things. Glad you’re enjoying it.
 
This moring, I re-upgraded using the later Neuro installer (3.0.13) and it upgraded as expected on my Windows device. Now I can see the Artifakt in my device list when I plug it in via USB. The wasn't happening before and it's the first time I've seen the Artifakt in Neuro. I can see all of the pedal's presets and their settings. I'm loving the dirt options...you have packed a LOT into this pedal. I didn't think that the Artifakt had been integrated into Neuro, so it';s the first time I've got this part working and it's amazing. The last few day's I've only been working with the pedal at a hardware level, now Ican see what's happening under the hood and I'm liking what I'm seeing.

As a fan and consumer of Source Audio products, there are three things that are being presented to me with the Artifakt. Each is massive and ground breaking. This is Source Audio "The Next generation"...sorry about the Star trek reference. I think we'll be talking about how the Source Audio have changed or evolved post 2024 for some time.

Firstly, Neuro 3. This new interface is very modern and sleek. The old Neuro (2?) was klunky and I'm going to use a Statr Trek reference. It made me think of what it would be like to drive the consoles on the old TV USS Enterprise, the original 1960's controls. Everything was there...but you had to learn it's quirks. Neuro 3 is literally "the next generation", it now feels sleek and beautiful and it's like the displays on the Enterprise D. Not just functional but elegant and actually nice to use. It's tactile and has a great balance between form and function. I would dar to say that Neuro has matured as product to the point that it may well be the best of breed and light to all the other manufacturers saying...boys...this is how you design a desktop user interface. By "boys"....I mean Eventide, Strymon, EHX, Boss. Seriosuly, this is world class and it almost brought a tear to my eye.
It works, it's beautiful and it's a joy to use. I love the ease that I can navigate local settings, hub scenes, local / published presets and community presets.

Secondly, the new hardware chassis that is being presented with the Artifakt. OMG this is another revolution in a box. This is obviously the new small box One Series...the next generation (soz..another Star trek-ism again). I love the 3 way toggle on the Mod knob....THAT is genius level of function and control, while being VERY Source Audio. It reminds me of the Sound Blox 2 tone shaping options and it's a fantastic way of allowing a lot of control, on the fly , quickly and easily, while using minimal presented hardware controls. It's a single knob and a 3 way switch....brilliant! It's like a return to the Sound Blox 2, only better.

I can easily see this hardware chassis being used to slowly replace the really older smaller One Series units. This hardware really lend itself to what Source Audio does best, a small device that only does one genre. Unlike most multi FX, which do a lot but not necessarilty, everything as well. Source Audio makes specific pedals that don't step outside their intentional parameters. With Source Audio, you are buying a specific type of pedal that does that role exceptionally well. It's like buying a Hi Fi component and not an all in one. With my experiance of Source Audio, usually their pedals are the best of breed in that particular type. I think dirt, the aftershock or ultrawave...boom. I think filter...Spectrum...boom. Compression...Atlas...boom.
This hardware could be the platform that gives Source Audio the opportunitiy to do something with all of the really old One Series pedals that are getting a little stale in their catalogue. I would buy in a heart beat a modulation pedal in this format, or Dirt for that matter. Can you imagine the integration of all 4 of SA's excellent modulation pedals in to this one chassis. I think the Spectrum / filters would work on this chassis too, the ultrawave and C4 would probably need another chassis because they aren't so diven by specific engines.
Seriously guys...this is a stunning piece of engineering and product development. Time to start revising your older pedals!

And thridly, the Artifakt's software layer. Well...i didn't see this coming! It's a crazy delight of what intially appears to be a random collection of engines placed into the new chassis to show case what the new hardware platform can do. Like all the best Source Audio pedals, it's slightly overwhelming and perplexing. It's remit is "anything that destructs your signal" and it does that exceedingly well. Possibly because it's the only pedal like this currently available and it's setting the bar very high. In subtractive Synthesis it's what control you have in systematically taking away from the oscillators that gives you your patch. In a mixing desk it's what you cut that gives you your mix....withthis pedal it's what you destroy, warp, glitch, filter etc...that gives you a very unique charector. Often I'm finding that I am re-creating some kind of 1930's gramaphone sound. I love it, but it's not what I expected.
It's got a great bit crusher....an awesome Ladder filter, the dirt options is suprisingly wide ranging and versatile. It has some limited compression, it has a really capably delay engine which also feeds the modulation options. It's like a well thought out collection of spare parts put together to create something very new, unique and special. it reminds me of when my wife makes a "hot pot" fro dinner. it's liek a random collection of (good) left overs put into a new meal to make some thing new and very tasty. Except Source Audio haven't put scraps or left overs in to this very carefully crafted hot pot...they have put their best bits and carfted something extraordinary.

So...did I need this pedal? No....I didn't know I needed it before the Artifakt came along.
Do I need this pedal? At the moment, i'm not sure. I'm still working through it's practical and musical application. However, life is much more than practical needs...we all buy things we love...not just the things we need. It's what makes life fun and enjoyable and not just about survival.
Do I want this pedal...hell YES! It's a lot of suprising fun.
Would I advise this pedal? Certainly...it's not what you expect. Under the hood, you can do a lot with this pedal. It can cover a lot of ground...however sticking to just it's "destructor" nature, this pedal is unexpected and a suprise. On bass it might not have a massive application (a bit like a fish eye lens in photography), however in the right context it can add some really nice new things to a tonal pallet. On bass specifically; the ladder filter, dirt, reverb, delay and modulation options all have useful application, but that isn't this kind of pedal. It's intention is to crush, destruct, glitch, thin, warble and flutter your world and it does this amazingly well.

So that's my observations from the last 2 days from unboxing the Artifakt.

Thanks for all this @GMC and for the honest nod to bass use.
I've yet to try neuro 3 and this is v encouraging after initial concerns.
Not being a guitar player, I'm pausing for now on the artifakt, but intrigued by it's cleverness.....
 
Honestly after only messing around with the exterior controls, this pedal has great bass application. I'd wager a lot that will exponentially increase when i get access to Neuro.

I am a massive fan of bitcrush instead of traditional OD and this pedal goes one better than the Ultrawave/C4. Much easier to dial in quickly too and with the filter and clean blend can get some really great lo fi bass sounds. The filter is great and i also really like using the Tape section.
 
Does anyone know any secret rescue procedures for SA One Series pedals? My setup is tuner -> Atlas -> C4 -> Spectrum -> {Blumes} -> Aftershock -> {Blues Driver} - Gemini, all connected to a Friedman Power Grid which itself is routed through a Kensington surge suppressor plugged into the wall.

I came home from work last night and the C4, Spectrum, Aftershock, and Gemini were all in one state of inoperability or another (each had one or more of: physical controls not working, preset banks not working, very low volume, not passing audio when engaged, passing only raw signal when engaged, showing up in Neuro but not able to launch editor). The tuner, Atlas, Blumes and BD-2 are functioning fine.

After doing some fancy dancing, I have the Aftershock completely working again, and the Spectrum is mostlly working but having volume issues. The C4 and Gemini are still inoperable. I used the process described below on all four:

1) Reset the pedal by powering on while holding down the footswitch
2) Powered the pedal off, replaced the Friedman power cord with an SA wall wart, powered back on
3) Launched Neuro 3.0, attempted firmware update, failed
4) Removed Neuro 3.0, installed Neuro 0.8.71
5) Restored from pedal backup created in 0.8.71
6) Firmware updates where applicable
7) Back on Friedman power, to see if fixes where found would persist

That rescued the Aftershock (wasn't responding to physical or neuro controls, was only passing raw audio) and partially rescued the Spectrum (was only loading presets from banks 1 and 2, and was extremely quiet - still extremely quiet, but it loads presets from anywhere now).

I contacted SA but it being a holiday weekend I don't know what the turnaround on that would be, so, thought I mught ask here.
 
Does anyone know any secret rescue procedures for SA One Series pedals? My setup is tuner -> Atlas -> C4 -> Spectrum -> {Blumes} -> Aftershock -> {Blues Driver} - Gemini, all connected to a Friedman Power Grid which itself is routed through a Kensington surge suppressor plugged into the wall.

I came home from work last night and the C4, Spectrum, Aftershock, and Gemini were all in one state of inoperability or another (each had one or more of: physical controls not working, preset banks not working, very low volume, not passing audio when engaged, passing only raw signal when engaged, showing up in Neuro but not able to launch editor). The tuner, Atlas, Blumes and BD-2 are functioning fine.

After doing some fancy dancing, I have the Aftershock completely working again, and the Spectrum is mostlly working but having volume issues. The C4 and Gemini are still inoperable. I used the process described below on all four:

1) Reset the pedal by powering on while holding down the footswitch
2) Powered the pedal off, replaced the Friedman power cord with an SA wall wart, powered back on
3) Launched Neuro 3.0, attempted firmware update, failed
4) Removed Neuro 3.0, installed Neuro 0.8.71
5) Restored from pedal backup created in 0.8.71
6) Firmware updates where applicable
7) Back on Friedman power, to see if fixes where found would persist

That rescued the Aftershock (wasn't responding to physical or neuro controls, was only passing raw audio) and partially rescued the Spectrum (was only loading presets from banks 1 and 2, and was extremely quiet - still extremely quiet, but it loads presets from anywhere now).

I contacted SA but it being a holiday weekend I don't know what the turnaround on that would be, so, thought I mught ask here.
Firstly make sure each pedal is getting at least 150mA of current.

Perform the hard reset by holding the footswitch while powering on.

Connect to Neuro 0.8.71 and install the firmware again.

Do a factory reset.

Reinstall your backup file.

In all the above steps, only connect this pedal to power and test it is working correctly afterwards before attempting power sharing.

The problems you have mentioned are usually the result of underpowering the pedal. This can happen when daisy-chaining off a single source/outlet if one doesn’t pay attention to the power requirement figures. (Have learned the hard way myself.)
 
...read through much of this thread without finding a direct answer... (it's a long thread!):

I'm having trouble with both the new Neuro 3 app and the older app with my Aftershock. It's the same problem on 2 different Windows machines as well as using my android phone with an OTG usb adapter.
Basically, whenever I try to create custom functionality in the app with an expression pedal (Source Audio Dual Exp), the pedal crashes. Either sound is muted and pedal is unresponsive or a loud ticking sound is present with no instrument throughput.

Am I missing an obvious fix/workaround? I have a Source Audio midi adapter on the way & am hoping to have my patches programmed before implementing midi as well!

Thanks, folks!
 
Firstly make sure each pedal is getting at least 150mA of current.

Perform the hard reset by holding the footswitch while powering on.

Connect to Neuro 0.8.71 and install the firmware again.

Do a factory reset.

Reinstall your backup file.

In all the above steps, only connect this pedal to power and test it is working correctly afterwards before attempting power sharing.

The problems you have mentioned are usually the result of underpowering the pedal. This can happen when daisy-chaining off a single source/outlet if one doesn’t pay attention to the power requirement figures. (Have learned the hard way myself.)

Thank you for the reply; one question - where would i find previous versions of firmware for the C4/Gemini? I found the guide on the support site but it doesn't link to old versions, just explains them. The new firmware for the C4 (that was probably to do with 3.0) was loaded after it went bad, and it's not fixed the issue.
 
Thank you for the reply; one question - where would i find previous versions of firmware for the C4/Gemini? I found the guide on the support site but it doesn't link to old versions, just explains them. The new firmware for the C4 (that was probably to do with 3.0) was loaded after it went bad, and it's not fixed the issue.
These files are already included with the neuro editor, check the directory where you have it installed.
 
...read through much of this thread without finding a direct answer... (it's a long thread!):

I'm having trouble with both the new Neuro 3 app and the older app with my Aftershock. It's the same problem on 2 different Windows machines as well as using my android phone with an OTG usb adapter.
Basically, whenever I try to create custom functionality in the app with an expression pedal (Source Audio Dual Exp), the pedal crashes. Either sound is muted and pedal is unresponsive or a loud ticking sound is present with no instrument throughput.

Am I missing an obvious fix/workaround? I have a Source Audio midi adapter on the way & am hoping to have my patches programmed before implementing midi as well!

Thanks, folks!
Sorry for slow response, I started typing this hours ago and must have got sidetracked or it didn’t send.

Are you on latest pedal firmware? Do check.

How are you connecting the expression pedal? I presume through the control port. If so, have you set up the control port to receive expression or is it set to “tap tempo”?

Have you calibrated the expression pedal?
 
Sorry for slow response, I started typing this hours ago and must have got sidetracked or it didn’t send.

Are you on latest pedal firmware? Do check.

How are you connecting the expression pedal? I presume through the control port. If so, have you set up the control port to receive expression or is it set to “tap tempo”?

Have you calibrated the expression pedal?
No need to apologize when giving free advice! :-)
Yes, firmware updated. I'm using the control port input to the exp pedal. I'll check to make sure it is set to expression mode, but I'm pretty confident it already is .
 
Sorry for slow response, I started typing this hours ago and must have got sidetracked or it didn’t send.

Are you on latest pedal firmware? Do check.

How are you connecting the expression pedal? I presume through the control port. If so, have you set up the control port to receive expression or is it set to “tap tempo”?

Have you calibrated the expression pedal?
Calibration and and port setup have no effect on the problem unfortunately. :-/
 
Thanks! That was my creation. Largely based on the modulation sound Mark Tremonti of creed was using on the weathered album (specifically on My Sacrifice at the end in the low part of the chorus before building back up), and later, a much tamer version used on the first Alter Bridge Album (at the bridge of Open Your Eyes).

Originally I named it Sacrifice Modulation, but some people aren’t fans of Creed, so……:spit:
Viscosity is wicked cool flanger, one of my favorites that I keep coming back to again and again. FI4 synth sounds get an added dimension with that sound and it will be used a lot in my future creations.
 
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Having another Neuro nightmare tonight! 🤦‍♂️

Neuro 3 desktop isn't registering that any pedal is connected, have uninstalled and re-installed to no avail!
Neuro 3 Mobile is acknowledging my C4 but not my Ultrawave, have uninstalled and re-installed
Re-installed the OLD Neuro, and both pedals picked up fine.

In the midst of doing all of this, I when I set my C4 to run as a polyphonic 1oct+ there's a horrible tremolo/oscillation going on that I can't get away from. All envelopes/LFO and trems are turned off. It's just voice one to direct output. I've had issues with my C4 for a while (loss of patches, patches changing how they react despite settings being the same etc) but this one is new. Anyone else had any of this?
 
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