I guess that's the "Sweet".
Good thing they don't throw in a bucket of water.
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SPECTOR® Club - Part 21
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Good thing they don't throw in a bucket of water.
Had to install a new jack in my Rex5 today , so I went ahead and wired it in 18v . I'll play it after supper and see what I think ...
What pre?
There won't be any volume/output or tone difference.
The difference is headroom. With my pups jacked up to the max height I could distort the pups/pre by hitting my B string hard at 9 volts. Can't do it running 18 volts.
That's a good or bad thing depending on what you're going for.
On a side note, wanna' make the switchcraft/cannon jack on your Spector last the longest? Use right angled instrument cables. The tug on straight cables creates too much torque that messes up up the insides of these types of jacks (actually any jack, but these especially).
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really? that is good information... I always use right angle cable (more visually appealing), but now I'm really happy I do.
What pre?
There won't be any volume/output or tone difference.
The difference is headroom. With my pups jacked up to the max height I could distort the pups/pre by hitting my B string hard at 9 volts. Can't do it running 18 volts.
That's a good or bad thing depending on what you're going for.
On a side note, wanna' make the switchcraft/cannon jack on your Spector last the longest? Use right angled instrument cables. The tug on straight cables creates too much torque that messes up up the insides of these types of jacks (actually any jack, but these especially).
Good point about the cable.
Headroom is definitely a benefit of the extra voltage. The headroom does suppress the growl a little in the USA circuits. The growl is one of the "side-effects" of the design... because the USA 9 and 18v circuits use operational amplifiers to boost the signal from the pups, they're prone to the same over-saturation and signal loss that makes OpAmp based circuits muddy sounding in the mix. Except the Haz-Made circuits have multiple OpAmps and distort the over-saturated signal (during attack), pushing it through the series of OpAmps with no loss of signal. This is why the NS-2 was such a revelation in 1979... it cut through the mix with an aggressive growl that was new to the bass world.
I've played both side-by-side and the 9v has growl without any effort. Whereas you can clean the signal out of the 18v enough to loose the growl or make it nearly perceivable.
And without question the volume output for the 18v is about 30x40% greater than the 9v NS-2 circuit.
I'm not sure if doubling the voltage in one of the other circuits such as the TonePump or the Aguilar OBP circuits will increase output as well.
And if you've doubled the TonePump I'll be interested to hear how it sounds. I've heard people in the past say that the TonePump doesn't work well when doubled.
RE:"I'm not sure if doubling the voltage in one of the other circuits such as the TonePump or the Aguilar OBP circuits will increase output as well."
It will not.
It just increased headroom. I've done this to both Aguilar (These are actually recomended by Aguilar to be run at 18 volts, even though they will work at 9) and All 3 versions (Early voltage doubled, later non-trim pot and trim- potted) of the Tone Pump.
The increased headroom in the trim potted version was very obvious. Not as much so in the non-trim potted version but it did operate fine.
The early voltage doubled version did not work well. I did not know it had the internal voltage doubler when I first employed it so I guess I pumped it up to a virtual 36 volts
. It didn't like it. Didn't burn out, but it was noisy and crackled badly (and loudly).
These voltage doubled Tone Pumps were only used extremely early in it's history so most of you (all of you post trim pot version debut) should be fine at 18 volts.
I've always used right-angle instrument cables, convenient, and much easier to loop the cable over the strap. Plus they can't really do any damage to the jack of course
You're good then. All EMG stuff is good up to 27 volts. I've heard the 18-27 volt difference is almost non-existent though.
Thanks. Been out riding all day... no pics.. oops....LOL.
Here is a photo of it when it was on the dealer's website. Looks great for a '93 FLSTC,
Thinking of personalized plates "SPECTOR"... or "NS2 BASS"
Ditto... sucks the battery out of my phone loading all the repeated pics.For the love of god guys you don't have to quote all the pictures when you quote a post...
It took me AGES to scroll down the last page!
Though it is a nice forte
I had an old ns-2 years ago. It only had dots - no inlays. great bass, though. Neck was a little wide for me. I think it was around 1 5/8th. Mid or early eighties Spector. Very nice bass.
Basstovsky said:I've always used right-angle instrument cables, convenient, and much easier to loop the cable over the strap. Plus they can't really do any damage to the jack of course
+1
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It may be a bit overpriced. I am not sure if "rare" issue makes it worth that much.
The specs on the Spector website say most NS-2O's had Korean made NS-2A circuits.
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Wow! Thats a gorgeous bass! The BIN price is in the ball park. Great buy!
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They posted pictures of rehearsals for last weeks DimeBash. Is this an NS-4 that Rex Brown is playing with no inlays on the neck? Invalid Link Removed
At first glance, I thought it was a Forte but it has the 18V USA circuit and the EMG Humbucker pickups in it plus the gold bridge.
At first glance, I thought it was a Forte but it has the 18V USA circuit and the EMG Humbucker pickups in it plus the gold bridge.
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