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SPECTOR® Club - Part 23

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#381
grendle said:
It should be close in the lows and mids, but the high mids , highs and the growl on the new euro's is much more like the US basses imo.
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I have liked how my Euro 4's tone is with the exception that it's pretty hot going to my amp's input. After playing some on the Euro 5LX, I can hear this quality in the midrange that's better, and makes the bass as a hole clearer. I wouldn't say it's the Spector growl, as I think both basses have it. I would say it's more like the Euro 4 has a scooped tonality to it, while the 5LX's tone has, in addition to the deep bass and nice treble, a great sounding midrange tonality to it that makes the two different.

I really need to get both to the practice room sometime and run them through the Mesa rig at a good volume to really hear how both react.
 
#382
stjohn1299 said:
Man, it really is. I definitely noticed that at lunch, too. I've had 3 5 strings now. The first one was a Dean Edge, and it's B string was basically a thumb rest. If you tried to play it, it was horrible floppy, and to get it's B string playable required some pretty extreme string height compared to the other strings. My MM Sterling's B string was much better, but there was still some mild floppyness. It was just enough that it made me slightly alter how I attacked that string vs the other strings though. The notes on its B string below the 7th fret had a tendency to die out quickly without much resonance. Now, the Euro5LX's B string has none of those problems. I can attack that string like any other, and the notes ring long and true. Add to that the fact that the string actually feels under tension without any floppyness, and you've got yourself a winner.
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Yep, i found surprisingly little difference between the 34" and the 35" low B. Everyone claims to make a great bass with a great low B but very few get it right. Spector 5's set the std. again.
 
#383
grendle said:
Cool track!


Here's the thing about Ampeg, totally IMO, YMMV, but guys on the amp forum seem to agree.

With the sealed 8x10, your not going to hear this massive bottom end like you want to hear playing solo. The cab rolls off about 50-60hz on the low end and also rolls off about 2k on the high end. All the Spec. babys and guru's will tell you all kinds of things about how this cab goes lower and this one goes higher yada, yada..... The fact is that onstage and elseware (esp mic'd), that sealed cab sits exactly where you want it to in the mix. The good, powerful low end that is "bass" that you want is all there, esp in the 100hz range where it counts. The whole cab actually resonates a little lower but you don't really hear it until you give it some room, put it on a stage and stand 20 feet back from it. Than you go "ohhhh.....". The sealed 810 stays tight and keeps you out of the mudd.

Now, that cool sounding 30 hz tuned ported cab that sounded great in the store falls to it's knees in the mix vs the 810. All the low end that sounded killer solo (which we all love) , turns to mud in the mix and is usually so pronounced that you have to turn things down further to compensate. Believe me , been there done that, learned, and went " why does my bass sound like a beast live with this ampeg 810 cab?"

A little added bonus, the 810 has a nice sweet spot in the 800-1000 hz range, right were.....you guessed it , the Spector growl resides ;). On a plus note.... if your looking at an ampeg head, stay away from the the ultra low and ultra high buttons. They will basically give you a preset EQ curve and render the rest of the EQ on the head practically useless. you'll find yourself cranking things on the graphic to get a little bit of difference. The ampeg eq knobs aren't flat when set to 12:00 either. There's a bit of a hump at 100-120 hz with them set flat. I have the svt2 ( non pro) preamp with a power amp and 810e and love it. I use the vol on the svt 2 as kind of a gain knob, and the vol on the power amp as a master. that combined with the trim pot on the tone pump to vary the output level on the bass (to not drive the input so hard but have all of my bass and treb boost avail) works out great for me. The new svt 7 pro is the most "SVT cl / SVT 2 " sounding head from ampeg. Reguardless of having one 12ax7, most guys agree. I plugged into one and set my eq like I do on my 2, and my tone was there.
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Wow, thanks for this! That's some good tech info!!!:bassist:
 
#384
seventhframe said:
Wow, thanks for this! That's some good tech info!!!:bassist:
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LOL Thanks , just took me about 15 yrs to figure it all out lol. That and some great info from the boards here. Oh, also the Berg NV610 does keep up with the 810e very well ( it sounds very much like the flat back 70's svt cabs). Slightly more hi fi sounding, and about double the cost of a used 810, and a little lighter. I figured if i was gonna haul 6x10's though, the 8x10's aren't much more, and it doesn't have the "A" badge you recognize from across the room ;)
 
#385
grendle said:
LOL Thanks , just took me about 15 yrs to figure it all out lol.
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That's why I love this forum. All this info from people who have loads of experience who share their ideas. So great!:bassist:
Over the past year I've acquired years worth of knowledge from posts such as these;)
 
#386
I figured Id ask this in where the most Spector Knowledge is. I just got my third tonepump (Had a jr. and a regular tonepump), but this one has the spector logo sticker on the back along with a blue and white plastic "screw" that turns up to a certain point. What is the point of this new addition? :confused:
 
#387
Porkbun said:
I figured I ask this in where the most Spector Knowledge is. I just got my third tonepump (Had a jr. and a regular tonepump), but this one has the spector logo sticker on the back along with a blue and white "screw" that turns up to a certain point. What is the point of this new addition? :confused: I have no idea how to phrase it, so I cant find any answers!
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Welcome!
Our very own Patrick Stern explains...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9x1TNtUKI0
 
#388
Just curious again here...
Has anyone ever swapped the tonepump for the trim pot version of the tonepump themselves? I was thinking of possibly doing this myself if it isn't that hard.

Anyone know what is holding the TP to the side of the control cavity?
 
#390
bassgiant15 said:
Just curious again here...
Has anyone ever swapped the tonepump for the trim pot version of the tonepump themselves? I was thinking of possibly doing this myself if it isn't that hard.

Anyone know what is holding the TP to the side of the control cavity?
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should be easy.. you if you buy a new TP it will come with the tone pots already, so you will just be soldering to the volume pots and jack... its not too bad. I haven't replaced but I did install a TP in a performer.
 
#391
worshiprocker said:
should be easy.. you if you buy a new TP it will come with the tone pots already, so you will just be soldering to the volume pots and jack... its not too bad. I haven't replaced but I did install a TP in a performer.
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I think i get ya.
So should be able to use the pots that are already in my bass? I just need to solder the TP with the trim pot to the pots already there correct?
 
#393
bassgiant15 said:
Just curious again here...
Has anyone ever swapped the tonepump for the trim pot version of the tonepump themselves? I was thinking of possibly doing this myself if it isn't that hard.

Anyone know what is holding the TP to the side of the control cavity?
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Pretty positive its hot glue since all the ones I have gotten have had it still on.

Cant wait to install my new one and test it out! Also might try to find a way to adjust it from outside the bass (screwdriver disguised as a pot!)

Heres white screw Im referring to for those who dont know:
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I have yet to own a Spector, but I have heard enough to chase after their sound! Here is what my ESP LTD sounds like with a TP
[SOUNDCLOUD]http://soundcloud.com/flyingero/sets/esp-ltd-f205-w-tonepump/[/SOUNDCLOUD]
And my ex Thunderbird with EMG 40HZ's and TP Jr.:
 
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#395
ysand said:
Seems like a great option, especially for these models.

Btw, I was wondering why these bolt-on Euros are so limited in color options compared to the neck-thru ones.
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Apparently you can get any of the euro NT colors on a rebop, but it would have to be a special order and come at an up charge, which means a decently long wait time as well.
 
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