SPECTOR® Club - Part 38

[smadder]

I think the wood and the bridge make up the difference in tone as well - it isn't all in the preamp. All maple body wings, pau ferro fretboard (which produces a lot more growl than the rosewood in the Euro models), solid brass (and HEAVY) bridge... these contribute a ton to the tone beyond what just the pre amp is going to do.

I had it done on my old black Ian Hill....it improved the sound (slightly).....I would say before the preamp change the sound was a 7.5 (1-10) after it became an 8. So basically if you have money and don't know what to do with it go for it....It won't make you say "WOW" this sounds just like a NS2!!...It will improve slightly, but is it worth $350????....Like I said if you have money....I might actually get it so I don't have to change the settings live on my head gain volume. The euro tone pump has to be lowered big time compared to the others. Since I will have 3 basses with the US 9 Volt (formally the HAZ, hehe) I might make them all the same but I know it won't make the euro sound like the others.

 

[smadder]

and shouldn't someone bump us to part 39 at this point?

 

[brotherbassj]

Yeah dude, can't wait! Should I bring the NS 2A?

Got your PM, appreciate it.

Lee

That would be great. We tune down a half step so e flat......

 

[husky123]

That would be great. We tune down a half step so e flat......

I'm familiar with that tuning. As Jerry Cantrell calls it, "Standard Alice Tuning".

She'll have some fresh Pro Steels on there and a teensy bit of awesome fret buzz.

 

[superdick2112]

I think the wood and the bridge make up the difference in tone as well - it isn't all in the preamp. All maple body wings, pau ferro fretboard (which produces a lot more growl than the rosewood in the Euro models), solid brass (and HEAVY) bridge... these contribute a ton to the tone beyond what just the pre amp is going to do.

+1

Modifications can get you most of the way there, but USA Spectors have a certain magic, juju, mojo - whatever you want to call it - that simply can't be fully duplicated with modding.

 

[Worldeeeter]

Still loving my first Spector!
This bass is a beast!
BAL*&^s for days!!
Looking forward to the day I get another one

Question to those who can eyeball a Spector for 1.5 seconds and tell us the model: Is it me, or is the bridge awfully far in on the body of this model? It seems like it would be closer to the back edge. Perhaps the body is larger/longer on this one than the typical NS bodies?

 

[Gabriel51]

I think the wood and the bridge make up the difference in tone as well - it isn't all in the preamp. All maple body wings, pau ferro fretboard (which produces a lot more growl than the rosewood in the Euro models), solid brass (and HEAVY) bridge... these contribute a ton to the tone beyond what just the pre amp is going to do.

Pau Ferro, Bolivian Rosewood, Santos Rosewood are all the same wood, Pau Ferro is just a cheaper substitute for the endangered Brazilian Rosewood with very similar characteristics.

 

[TRichardsbass]

Question to those who can eyeball a Spector for 1.5 seconds and tell us the model: Is it me, or is the bridge awfully far in on the body of this model? It seems like it would be closer to the back edge. Perhaps the body is larger/longer on this one than the typical NS bodies?

It's a Spector Shorty. Short scale designed originally for Garry Tallent. J pickups and less rounded body are the giveaways.

 

[Jaymi]

actually, that's a long scale with a flat body...used to be here in town, played it once....mrfstop has it now....it is the modern take on the NS2J without the body contours...

 

[madbassplaya]

Someone start the new thread already!

 

[iceboxbass]

Pau Ferro, Bolivian Rosewood, Santos Rosewood are all the same wood, Pau Ferro is just a cheaper substitute for the endangered Brazilian Rosewood with very similar characteristics.

The comparison between Pau Ferro and rosewood was shown a couple parts back...Pau Ferro has a lot tighter wood grain. I believe it was JPS that showed the pix.

 

[iceboxbass]

Question to those who can eyeball a Spector for 1.5 seconds and tell us the model: Is it me, or is the bridge awfully far in on the body of this model? It seems like it would be closer to the back edge. Perhaps the body is larger/longer on this one than the typical NS bodies?

That's looks like about the right placement.

 

[Gabriel51]

The comparison between Pau Ferro and rosewood was shown a couple parts back...Pau Ferro has a lot tighter wood grain. I believe it was JPS that showed the pix.

Could be, what I post is just the facts about the wood

Brazilian Rosewood
Average Dried Weight: 52 lbs/ft3 (830 kg/m3)

Basic Specific Gravity: .68

Hardness: 2,270 lbf (10,100 N)

Rupture Strength: 18,970 lbf/in2 (130,830 kPa)

Elastic Strength: 1,880,000 lbf/in2 (12,970 MPa)

Crushing Strength: 9,600 lbf/in2 (66.2 MPa)

Shrinkage: Radial: 2.9%, Tangential: 4.6%, Volumetric: 8.5%, T/R Ratio: 1.6

Pau Ferro
Average Dried Weight: 55 lbs/ft3 (880 kg/m3)

Basic Specific Gravity: .70

Hardness: 2,140 lbf (9,510 N)

Rupture Strength: 18,300 lbf/in2 (126,210 kPa)*

Elastic Strength: 1,810,000 lbf/in2 (12,480 MPa)*

*Estimated elasticity from data of green wood at: 1,410,000 lbf/in2 (9,720 MPa)

Crushing Strength: 8,930 lbf/in2 (61.6 MPa)*

Shrinkage: Radial: 2.9%, Tangential: 6.7%, Volumetric: 10.6%, T/R Ratio: 2.3

 

[brotherbassj]

Could be, what I post is just the facts about the wood

Brazilian Rosewood
Average Dried Weight: 52 lbs/ft3 (830 kg/m3)

Basic Specific Gravity: .68

Hardness: 2,270 lbf (10,100 N)

Rupture Strength: 18,970 lbf/in2 (130,830 kPa)

Elastic Strength: 1,880,000 lbf/in2 (12,970 MPa)

Crushing Strength: 9,600 lbf/in2 (66.2 MPa)

Shrinkage: Radial: 2.9%, Tangential: 4.6%, Volumetric: 8.5%, T/R Ratio: 1.6

Pau Ferro
Average Dried Weight: 55 lbs/ft3 (880 kg/m3)

Basic Specific Gravity: .70

Hardness: 2,140 lbf (9,510 N)

Rupture Strength: 18,300 lbf/in2 (126,210 kPa)*

Elastic Strength: 1,810,000 lbf/in2 (12,480 MPa)*

*Estimated elasticity from data of green wood at: 1,410,000 lbf/in2 (9,720 MPa)

Crushing Strength: 8,930 lbf/in2 (61.6 MPa)*

Shrinkage: Radial: 2.9%, Tangential: 6.7%, Volumetric: 10.6%, T/R Ratio: 2.3

Nice information....thanks for the share

 

[mmbongo]

Question to those who can eyeball a Spector for 1.5 seconds and tell us the model: Is it me, or is the bridge awfully far in on the body of this model? It seems like it would be closer to the back edge. Perhaps the body is larger/longer on this one than the typical NS bodies?

It's either a Shorty or an NS4-H2 (H2 = USA Bolt On)

Jazz pickups are not exclusive to the Shorty, it can be ordered with any pickups you want. Just like an NS4-H2 can be ordered with Jazz pickups.

Here's a Shorty:
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Here's an NS4-H2:
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[mmbongo]

Actually upon further research, the official name for an NS4-H2 with Jazz pickups is the NS2J.

Here's another one:
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[iceboxbass]

Here's two pictures of fretboards, first one of my ReBop 5 rosewood FB, second of my Forte 5 Pau Ferro FB. See the difference?

 

[Mr.Bassie720]

I was waiting for part 39 to post my JAR. I guess the moderators are sleeping in today. Got knobs for it last week. I know its a simple thing, but ordering anything from Spector is painless. Customer service is on point.

 

[5string_phunk]

Here's two pictures of fretboards, first one of my ReBop 5 rosewood FB, second of my Forte 5 Pau Ferro FB. See the difference?

that pau ferro is sick!!! ...makes me miss my Forte!

 

[FunkySpoo]

This thread still going? Somebody needs to wake up Bryan