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SPECTOR® Club - Part 55

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I have had 4 acoustic basses...........I buy them use them rarely sell them...........then find a reason I have to have one..........currently I have a short scale fender BG29 in black.........the size of a standard six string...........LOL I look funny with it.............54 in chest, 44 inch waist 318 lbs.....and a dinky little guitar..........

On that note........I dont want to hear anything from anyone else about their size and a spector body......as I might be the big boy of this club! So give me any crap and I will...........sit on you.........or bar-b-que you if I'm hungry......"(think best pro wrestler voice) .......and may dimebag daryl have mercy on your soul".........LOL

Thanks for making a dull friday amusing!
 
Well if they are voiced about the same I'd really like to go the 4 non stacked knob approach of the OBP-2. I haven't been able to hear the two Aggies side by side to see if the lack of a high/low mid sweep is somehow compensated for by an increased range in the bass and treb pots. I'm not into the ultra aggressive bass tones that the nontrim tone pump has in my Euro. I'd really like to get something more in line with a P/J Fender active tone. I'm sure the Aggie will get me there but would prefer the 2 vs the 3 if it'll work.

I have both OBP-2 and OBP-3. To me they definitely seem different. I really like the 2, but now that I have played the 3, I would choose that for future basses without thinking twice. The flexibility with the mids gives a lot more tonal options IMO. They are in very different basses, though, so that needs to be taken into account.
 
That Alvarez is beautiful!

I wasn't able to get an answer to this question over in pickups & electronics so I thought I'd try the Spector forum. I'm the pleased owner of a Rebop 5 DLX I just picked up from a fellow TBer. I love the thick, meaty, punchy, solid lows of the Rebop through my Genz Benz Streamliner 900 and sealed 610 cab. Outstanding! The lows and low mids are perfect but I'm looking to reduce the brittleness of the highs and get a bit more mid content - a little smoother up top and not quite as scooped but leave the lows and low mids as they are.

The two options listed below look like good upgrades to the stock EMG HZ pickups and I'm trying to decide between them:

Rebop #1 w/ Tonepump = 2 EMG 40P5's
(Meaty, precision'ish type vibe but with a more modern punch and clarity than a straight precision)

Rebop #2 w/ EMG BQC 3-band = EMG 40DC neck & 40CS bridge
(The CS in the bridge tones down a bit of the brittleness that a DC bridge has... a bit warmer on the highs, but still Spector active EMG tone that I want to keep on one of the Rebops)

Other possibilities could be a DC/P5 or DC/DC combination.

Either option looks like it would get the job done nicely. The 40P5's seem to keep the punch, add some mids and growl, take some edge off the highs, and cost less because it keeps the tone pump. Do they maintain that "Spector signature sound" and killer solid low end?
I've seen other favorable reviews on the EMG BQC 3-band with 40DC neck & 40CS bridge so that also looks like a win. It costs more but probably has more mid shaping ability with the BQC. I'd appreciate any feedback on which one might be better to achieve the tone goals described.

Hey Russ, I was considering a few different options as well for that bass. The P5/DC combo was probably the last one I considered. A few of the guys here should be able to help as they have gone through the same and tried a lot of different combos. Keep checking back, you'll get the help you need here. Lots of helpful people here!
 
That's what I figured. This is a very active forum. Loving that Spector tone though, what a rock machine. I like the DC which would seem similar to the HZ, just thought the warmth of the 40CS would soften that bridge treble just a hair.
 
I have the P/DC, Spector 18v and that's my favorite setup on my Rebop 5. John just set his up with that combo and I thought it sounded better. His was a four and I like it for the low B, A on the 5'er. Maybe he can chime in on his toughts since we all like different combos and is discussed here quite a bit. Of course the P will have a little less output because of the DC being a dual coil.
 
I have the P/DC, Spector 18v and that's my favorite setup on my Rebop 5. John just set his up with that combo and I thought it sounded better. His was a four and I like it for the low B, A on the 5'er. Maybe he can chime in on his toughts since we all like different combos and is discussed here quite a bit. Of course the P will have a little less output because of the DC being a dual coil.

I'm hoping to have my 40Js wired up with my 18V non-Trim TP by Saturday. If not, it will be early next week. ^_^
I'm really hoping I like it...
 
I'm hoping to have my 40Js wired up with my 18V non-Trim TP by Saturday. If not, it will be early next week. ^_^
I'm really hoping I like it...

I think it will sound good with 2 J's. Only reason that I used the DC over the J with the P was that the J had a much lower output than the P that I had a hard time balancing the pickups and getting the benefits of the J in that bass with the Spector 18v. 2 J's would work together and you could add a little gain and sound awesome.
 
for those of you who have a trimpump, how high do you have yours set to? mines at 1/2 and it is a dirty bird. im thinking about turning it down a hair. and im contemplating the 18v thing.....hmmm. any info is appreciated.
 
for those of you who have a trimpump, how high do you have yours set to? mines at 1/2 and it is a dirty bird. im thinking about turning it down a hair. and im contemplating the 18v thing.....hmmm. any info is appreciated.

The 18V helps more when you have active P-ups. What I'm doing with my non-trim is putting the volume control AFTER the EQ, instead of before. Should give me more control over the EQ without becoming muddy.
 
for those of you who have a trimpump, how high do you have yours set to? mines at 1/2 and it is a dirty bird. im thinking about turning it down a hair. and im contemplating the 18v thing.....hmmm. any info is appreciated.

most people run it around 30-40%... I run it at 60%

The 18v mod with tighten up the low end (a little) and give you more headroom from the pickups. I have noticed every tonepump is a little different from the next, so it could take a little messing around.
 
I have the P/DC, Spector 18v and that's my favorite setup on my Rebop 5. John just set his up with that combo and I thought it sounded better. His was a four and I like it for the low B, A on the 5'er. Maybe he can chime in on his toughts since we all like different combos and is discussed here quite a bit. Of course the P will have a little less output because of the DC being a dual coil.

Yeah, I just set this config up on my NS-4 and really like the tone I am getting. I think I went a little overboard with the clips since I wanted to compare it a few different ways but I finally have it set to a way I really like it now so I am glad I made the swap.

It was mostly due to adjusting the pickup height since I think originally, the DC was over-powering the P pickup at first so then I would make some minor adjustments and then record more clips to see what I thought. I got a bit too obsessed though and had to throw up the white towel since I just couldn't stop :)

I had not owned any P/J Spectors until purchasing my 2002 non LX Euro and really became a fan of that pickup config but when Mike tried the P/DC combo in his Rebop5, I really was intrigued and wanted to try it. Chris Loe also tried it when he owned the buckeye NS-4 that I currently own and I liked that combo the best out of the clips he posted so between hearing that and the Rebop, I couldn't wait to try it and I am very glad I did.

Once I get a bit more settled, I will post the clips and there are a few more I will post as well. Sam and I are comparing the P pickups between my NS-4 and his NS-2 and I think some of you might be surprised to hear the results. that 18V USA circuit really is an amazing pre. Sure, it's going to sound a bit different but with the limited availability of the 9V USA circuit, some might want to give this bad boy a shot. I am thinking about putting one in my Euro and seeing how that sounds but wanted to check if it has the quick connects since I really don't want to solder if I don't have to :)
 
most people run it around 30-40%... I run it at 60%

The 18v mod with tighten up the low end (a little) and give you more headroom from the pickups. I have noticed every tonepump is a little different from the next, so it could take a little messing around.

I have the BTTW non-trim version in my white Euro, and I run the volume knobs at around 60 - 70%.
I wonder if this translates to what you are getting out of your (9-volt) trimpump(s) with your volumes near 100%.

Are all of yours wired for 18v now?
 
I think it will sound good with 2 J's. Only reason that I used the DC over the J with the P was that the J had a much lower output than the P that I had a hard time balancing the pickups and getting the benefits of the J in that bass with the Spector 18v. 2 J's would work together and you could add a little gain and sound awesome.

This is the exact reason I didn't even consider a J pickup at the bridge for my NS-4. I remember Chris saying the same thing and there was also another guy that tried a bunch of different EMG configurations in his Rebop and he said it also. I wish he still had those clips up but he took them down since he no longer owns the bass.

for those of you who have a trimpump, how high do you have yours set to? mines at 1/2 and it is a dirty bird. im thinking about turning it down a hair. and im contemplating the 18v thing.....hmmm. any info is appreciated.

I have the one in my Rebop5 set to about 30% currently. Any higher and it tends to have more output than all of my other basses so I set it at that level so I didn't need to turn my amp down.
 
Yeah, I just set this config up on my NS-4 and really like the tone I am getting. I think I went a little overboard with the clips since I wanted to compare it a few different ways but I finally have it set to a way I really like it now so I am glad I made the swap.

It was mostly due to adjusting the pickup height since I think originally, the DC was over-powering the P pickup at first so then I would make some minor adjustments and then record more clips to see what I thought. I got a bit too obsessed though and had to throw up the white towel since I just couldn't stop :)

I had not owned any P/J Spectors until purchasing my 2002 non LX Euro and really became a fan of that pickup config but when Mike tried the P/DC combo in his Rebop5, I really was intrigued and wanted to try it. Chris Loe also tried it when he owned the buckeye NS-4 that I currently own and I liked that combo the best out of the clips he posted so between hearing that and the Rebop, I couldn't wait to try it and I am very glad I did.

Once I get a bit more settled, I will post the clips and there are a few more I will post as well. Sam and I are comparing the P pickups between my NS-4 and his NS-2 and I think some of you might be surprised to hear the results. that 18V USA circuit really is an amazing pre. Sure, it's going to sound a bit different but with the limited availability of the 9V USA circuit, some might want to give this bad boy a shot. I am thinking about putting one in my Euro and seeing how that sounds but wanted to check if it has the quick connects since I really don't want to solder if I don't have to :)

You can never OC (over clip). Don't give away the 18v seceret next thing you know I won't be able to get one. :ninja: That's what is taking the place of the BQC in the matte Euro after I test this spare 9v circuit.
 
You can never OC (over clip). Don't give away the 18v seceret next thing you know I won't be able to get one. :ninja: That's what is taking the place of the BQC in the matte Euro after I test this spare 9v circuit.

It wasn't clipping when the DC pickup was a bit higher but I just wasn't able to hear the P pickup as much as I would have liked so I had to adjust it around. I did get major clipping when I was playing with just the P pickup and the bass fully boosted so I had to turn down the gain a huge amount when recording that clip :)

It just shows the power of that 18V circuit. Man, that thing can wreck neighborhoods and is very sensitive with slight adjustments.

Ok, that one will be our little secret :ninja: The good thing is they use recent parts on that pre so I don't see them running into issues like they did with the 9V circuit since that uses such old parts which are very tough to get now.

EDIT Sorry, I just got your over clip comment. That is a big duh on my part, LOL. My problem is, I am in clip overload so I need to just keep the ones up that I think people would enjoy and help them determine how this sounds so I will be doing that this weekend.
 
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