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SPECTOR® Club - Part 57

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Man you guys have been quite busy in here today!

Spent the better part of today testing out new patches with my Axe FX and various soft synths and decided to re-record a lot of the tracks from a tune I wrote over a decade ago. I've come a log way from a Kurzweil, a 2120 Legend and a digital 8-track! There's a lot going on so I know it's going to be hell to mix and I still haven't added vocals. Not sure if this would fit the band or not - it could become something for my "side" project.

Somewhere buried in there you might be able to hear some Webster with some B3K on it. Not sure I'm going to stick with this bass on it or maybe use the 5XL.

Let me know what you guys think - be warned it's almost 7 minutes!

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Well... it's sort of an interesting reality of the guitar/bass making business.

The first Spectors from 1974-1975 were made by Stuart. Then Alan Charney, a friend of Stuart's from the Brooklyn Woodworker's Cooperative, joined him and they formed Spector Guitar Company.

Alan and Stuart would work side-by-side, day in and day out until the sale of Spector Guitar Company to Kramer in late 1985.

In the first decade of Spector, Stuart and Alan worked together; all the Brooklyn Spectors have BOTH Stuart and Alan's mark on them.

As things towards the end of the Brooklyn Era started getting busy, artists, dealers, etc... Stuart was spending more and more time running the company as Alan continued to build guitars.

When the Kramer deal was inked, Stuart didn't want to move to NJ and he wasn't interested in a 5 day a week commute. Alan didn't mind.

So of the Kramer Era Spectors... really the two guys who had ALWAYS been Spector, Stuart and Alan, were there for every build. Alan was there full-time, Stuart there 3 days a week. So Kramer models are no less "Spectors" than the Brooklyn Era models. Towards the end of the Brooklyn Era it was pretty much the same setup... Stuart had a couple a days a week of phone calls, meetings, talking to artists, etc...

What's so cool about the Kramer Era was the willingness of Stuart to experiment. Kramer was catering to some of the most famous bassists on the planet. And they wanted new and "different" things.

From Ian Hill's skinny neck NS-2 to Doug Wimbish's Jazz nut Spector... to the creation of a real in-production 5-string. A lot of cool things were born during the Kramer Era.

Kramer had in-house finishing, so Stuart and Alan didn't have to send things out to get finished (they figured out pretty early on in Brooklyn how toxic a small space could get when you had to do lacquer finishes).

And still, where the USA Spectors were concerned, nothing left Kramer without both Stuart and Alan inspecting it.

The SSD Era was cool because the first year of production Stuart was pretty much working by himself. So if you want a Spector made by Stuart (the way Mike Tobias works) then you look for an SD-4 or SD-5. Those are pretty much the only basses except for very early Spector (which PJ Rubal owns most all of them) that would be built by Stuart and Stuart alone.

By the end of 1993 Stuart had hired employees to work with him. One of those people is a man named Jim Quick who STILL works at Spector today and Stuart's right arm when it comes to the physical building of the basses. If Stuart is out sick or at NAMM or on vacation, production continues and Jim Q and Jimmy Eppard (who does the electronics and final setups) keep things moving. Jimmy Eppard has been there going on 15 years.

The main people helping Stuart build Spectors today have been there no less than 10 or so years.

And they work like a well-tuned machine.

The ONLY way for Stuart to have kept Spector in a place where he built everything would have been if he had gone through with his original plan after Kramer to just work in his garage alone and built 5-7 (max) basses a month.

The bottom line is that Stuart is hands-on with supervising everything that goes on, regardless what Era we are talking about. The trick is that he's always been smart and hired talented people to work with him to spread out the duties so things are more consistent and workflow is better. There are in reality, very few Spector basses that were 100% made by Stuart beginning to end.

Dang, JPS. It is great to have all this knowledge dump back in the club! Good stuff...way to "pass it on".
 
Man you guys have been quite busy in here today!

Spent the better part of today testing out new patches with my Axe FX and various soft synths and decided to re-record a lot of the tracks from a tune I wrote over a decade ago. I've come a log way from a Kurzweil, a 2120 Legend and a digital 8-track! There's a lot going on so I know it's going to be hell to mix and I still haven't added vocals. Not sure if this would fit the band or not - it could become something for my "side" project.

Somewhere buried in there you might be able to hear some Webster with some B3K on it. Not sure I'm going to stick with this bass on it or maybe use the 5XL.

Let me know what you guys think - be warned it's almost 7 minutes!

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Nice bunk! Some of those riffs are HEAVY....love it.
 
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John,After seeing and drooling over how amazing your collection has become,I would really like to hear them in action!!
What band are you jamming these bad ass Spectors in now?
And as a fellow WEBSTER/REX tone fan,Id REALLY like to hear what youre doing musically with these (wow),theyre my favorites that ive never heard...I hope to check your sound out asap,THX John Deluca!
WHASSUP BRO?!
Sethro,(big fan of your taste in all things Spector)

Thanks for the kind words man. I am basically a bedroom player though so I am not in any band but I am thinking about doing some cover videos. I'm still trying to figure out the songs I want to do and want to practice more since I am very self-conscious about my playing :)
 
So perhaps there were more than one type made by Kramer. But like Phat's, mine had the volume/blend.

I know Sam has had a few NS-2As... I think he's doing family stuff right now. But hopefully later he can chime in on what the setup in the circuits he's owned were.

For the Record, the three different NS2a's that have gone through my hands in the last year were all V/V/B/T

There must have been 2 versions of it.

I owned one NS-2A that had the circuit in it and it was V/V/B/T. It was an older NS-2A NS8013. So maybe they started with Vol/Blend then went to Vol/Vol.

Also most of the photos I have seen of NS-2A circuits seemed to be Vol/Vol.
 
Curiosity got the best of me today, and I took the truss rod cover off my SSD NS-4CR to see if there was a serial #. Alas, the only marking is a red line, which looks to be done with a grease pencil.
Nothing in the control cavity, either. Unless something is written under the bridge (haven't checked there yet), mine is a no-serial-number model.
I bought it in 1997; no telling when it was built, tho (aside from the obvious date range).
 
There must have been 2 versions of it.....maybe they started with Vol/Blend then went to Vol/Vol.

Also most of the photos I have seen of NS-2A circuits seemed to be Vol/Vol.

According to PJ Rubal, my NS-2A - with no serial number - is among the first ones made in early '87, and the circuit in it is Vol/Vol.

Wasn't the first run of NS-2As made in Japan?
 
According to PJ Rubal, my NS-2A - with no serial number - is among the first ones made in early '87, and the circuit in it is Vol/Vol.

Wasn't the first run of NS-2As made in Japan?

I had always heard back around '89 when I bought my first NS-2 that the NS-2a's were made in Japan.. No one's ever really mentioned/confirmed it since.
 
+1, good job Bunk, sounds great.

Thanks Coop. I gotta get the "mud" out of it since I've doubled the rhythms. I also have to double-check the bass signal chain since I think I might have changed something inadvertently since I'm not hearing as much "grind" as I'm used to. Might be something with the RBI.

This is the part I hate - sound manipulation. I love putting the parts together, but mixing is NOT my strong suit.
 
I had always heard back around '89 when I bought my first NS-2 that the NS-2a's were made in Japan.. No one's ever really mentioned/confirmed it since.

Taken from spector wikipedia, hope this helps:

With Kramer's decision to start making SPECTORS® in Korea, three new bass models were introduced to the lineup, the NS-2A, NS-2B, and the NS-2C. A line of import guitars based on the NS-6 electric guitar was also created. They were named in a similar fashion as the import bass line.

To ensure quality control, Stuart oversaw the selection and setup of the Korean SPECTOR® operation. This was also fortuitous for after Kramer's demise, Stuart, who had developed a great amount of respect for the Korean factory's standards and work ethic; signed a new contract with the same group to produce the PROFESSIONAL SERIES of instruments for Stuart Spector Designs, LTD.

PJ Rubal says this about the Korean Spector Factory, "The same group of artisans and craftsmen have been making SPECTOR BASSES® in Korea since 1986 and this shows in the remarkably refined features and quality of our PROFESSIONAL SERIES instruments."
 
Guys just a heads up - I mentioned it in the listing but I will likely have to give the Kramer a go on the dreaded 'bay. Interest in it seems to have dried up and I can't really afford to price drop it much more.

Anyone who thinks they might be able to take a run at it in the next week or two, just let me know.
 
Thanks Coop. I gotta get the "mud" out of it since I've doubled the rhythms. I also have to double-check the bass signal chain since I think I might have changed something inadvertently since I'm not hearing as much "grind" as I'm used to. Might be something with the RBI.

This is the part I hate - sound manipulation. I love putting the parts together, but mixing is NOT my strong suit.

I understand that, I'm still battling the midi drums. :bawl:
 
Guys just a heads up - I mentioned it in the listing but I will likely have to give the Kramer a go on the dreaded 'bay. Interest in it seems to have dried up and I can't really afford to price drop it much more.

Anyone who thinks they might be able to take a run at it in the next week or two, just let me know.

Man, I wish I could help you out on this Bunk. These sound so awesome, I could never own too many. I've had a chance to play many Spectors and these sound awesome. With a little eq you can make up for anything they lack from the other models, but it is very difficult to get others to sound like these. I plan on getting a few more for my collection, but the gear funds are dry at the moment. Not to mention that compared to the Wimbish model I had, all my necks are actually thinner and the 1.5 neck was only a small advantage. Any new NS-2 is going to give you quite a bit more wood.
 
Man, I wish I could help you out on this Bunk. These sound so awesome, I could never own too many. I've had a chance to play many Spectors and these sound awesome. With a little eq you can make up for anything they lack from the other models, but it is very difficult to get others to sound like these. I plan on getting a few more for my collection, but the gear funds are dry at the moment. Not to mention that compared to the Wimbish model I had, all my necks are actually thinner and the 1.5 neck was only a small advantage. Any new NS-2 is going to give you quite a bit more wood.

Thanks man - I guess it's bad timing on my part. At this point anything recouped from selling this one just goes towards paying off stuff so while I don't need to sell it this second, the sooner the better.
 
Taken from spector wikipedia, hope this helps:

With Kramer's decision to start making SPECTORS® in Korea, three new bass models were introduced to the lineup, the NS-2A, NS-2B, and the NS-2C. A line of import guitars based on the NS-6 electric guitar was also created. They were named in a similar fashion as the import bass line.

To ensure quality control, Stuart oversaw the selection and setup of the Korean SPECTOR® operation. This was also fortuitous for after Kramer's demise, Stuart, who had developed a great amount of respect for the Korean factory's standards and work ethic; signed a new contract with the same group to produce the PROFESSIONAL SERIES of instruments for Stuart Spector Designs, LTD.

PJ Rubal says this about the Korean Spector Factory, "The same group of artisans and craftsmen have been making SPECTOR BASSES® in Korea since 1986 and this shows in the remarkably refined features and quality of our PROFESSIONAL SERIES instruments."

I'll give you a guess as to who the author of this Wikipedia article is... ;)

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