SPECTOR® Club - Part 75

[worshiprocker]

Now that he's gone....can we talk bad about him now?....or is it to soon?

lol, that's funny right there

 

[superdick2112]

Patrick is a good guy and I like him....
Now that he's gone....can we talk bad about him now?....or is it to soon?

Standard TB protocol dictates that we start a 10+ page rage quit thread in which everyone gives him a hard time, but seeing as he's our friend & chose our club thread in which to say goodbye, I say we give him a hall pass...

 

[Mr.Bassie720]

That is pure awesome!!! Congrats on an amazing bass!

I came so close to snagging this one a few months ago. Super sexy! Congrats!

Ho, like the bridge says that's badass!

Thanks guys, it's always great to get words of encouragement from you. Sharing our excitement about these basses is one of the main reasons I hang here more than anywhere else on TB.

That's not only a sweeeet looking machine... (and congrats on that)

but, it looks kinda familiar... I was thinking about going that wide with the spine and that IS what I pictured.
But, I wasn't sure about it being strong enough as it's a bolt on neck

I have admired your bass since you first rescued it and brought it back to life. How long ago was that? It's been a while. I think going wide would have worked, since the glue joint becomes stronger than the wood. But it looks wicked as is.

 

[catcauphonic]

Take care, Patrick. Your comprehensive Spectorpedia like posts and positive attitude is going to be missed around here

 

[Torn Bassist]

I'm hardly famous.

The thing I keep wrestling with in my mind is what do you do when someone you care about treats you in a hurtful way?

Do you let it destroy you?
Do you get angry and attempt to return the hurt?
Or do you say, "There but by the grace of God go I" and walk away with forgiveness and dignity?

When I am faced with really hurtful situations I go back to the time when I had been told I had a near golf-ball sized tumor in my sinuses, roots 3mm from my brain. I was told that with radical surgery and chemotherapy I had a 27% chance of surviving 2 years.

I like to remember that moment, being told that you have cancer that is most likely terminal; the feeling of the floor giving way beneath you and time standing still… the sound of my own heartbeat thundering in my ears… because it helps me put these otherwise difficult events into clear perspective.

I have survived far worse than this.

I have so much to be thankful for.

Guess it's time for option 3 from above.

It's time I say goodbye. I won't be back here.

Let me end things with this; I stand by everything I've ever said here. Stuart makes the best bass guitars in the world in my opinion. I meant it when I have written here that your musical journey belongs to you. You should play whatever makes you love playing and I am happy for those of you who have found your conduit of choice; the guitar that makes you happy to be alive and to be a bassist.

Love your Spectors and enjoy the excellent fellowship here.

Those of you who are my friends on FB... you know where to find me.

I wish you all the best and rock on.

It's time for BASSICS, time to move into the next venture giving us the knowledge you hold or that you collect from all of your friends/connections. We may even see a BASSICS thread on Talkbass which will assist us in finding your new site, don't be hurt as you have made your choice and number 3 works very well for a person that has many friends! See you on Facebook Patrick you will always be my friend.

 

[Aragorn35016]

Last time I checked with Spector, back in early November, there were 13 people on the wait list and no guaranteed delivery date. The price tag was also out of my range, so I spent the last couple of months figuring out how to build my own. Reverse engineering that thing from google image searches was a bee-atch, but it was worth it.

Funny, I'm starting to work on this very same thing! I have some pretty good pics to work off of (there's a few part values I need to chase down, but I have clear enough pics for the resistor color codes)

 

[Clearwave]

Funny, I'm starting to work on this very same thing! I have some pretty good pics to work off of (there's a few part values I need to chase down, but I have clear enough pics for the resistor color codes)

I've thought about doing that too. (although I have a Brooklyn era one sitting in a drawer) It wouldn't be very hard. There are some patent laws you would have to dance around. That's not a big deal either, Mighty Mite was able to do it.

 

[duff2]

Even if that circuit was patented, which it is not, making one for your own personal use does not break any law. The circuit trace image may be copyrighted, I haven't checked, but the same 'fair use' rules would apply even if it was.

-Duff2

 

[e.rich]

Thank you. It's usually sitting in the front spot on my rack as my #1 - and because I like to have full view of the beauty!

I can respect that. Spalt front and center. If ever decide to partake in a Forte, let me know. This might be the only one on earth that I might GAS for a smidge more than my Haz-equipped Forte monster.

 

[Aragorn35016]

I've thought about doing that too. (although I have a Brooklyn era one sitting in a drawer) It wouldn't be very hard. There are some patent laws you would have to dance around. That's not a big deal either, Mighty Mite was able to do it.

I don't think any of that matters if your building for your own use, I love spector basses but 500 bucks for that board is a rip off, a john east pre isn't even that much and it has a control plate and knobs attached to it! I do wonder if it's illegal to produce and release a DIY build tutorial.

 

[e.rich]

First of all, I have no idea what's going on.

^^THIS^^.

 

[Torn Bassist]

Correct - they are not in our group. Patrick was referring to an individual not in the Spector Club.
And you are right - Patrick has many friends in the Spector Club (I'm proud to call myself one of his friends), and we will all miss his presence here.

I missed the first draft and can only guess the problem is between one of the bosses and the employee...and...the bosses always win!

 

[johnsonabq]

I don't think any of that matters if your building for your own use, I love spector basses but 500 bucks for that board is a rip off, a john east pre isn't even that much and it has a control plate and knobs attached to it! I do wonder if it's illegal to produce and release a DIY build tutorial.

It's all economics... Supply and Demand...

9v's are in very short supply and very high demand (determined by the number of people who want one of the preamps not already spoken for in a build). The only way to cut down on the demand is to raise the price. I know that they are sometimes putting finished basses ready for assembly off to the side while they wait for a batch of 9v's to arrive.

I've wondered about an onboard preamp for a bass with a chip that uses bass modeling (like how so many companies are making bass amps and pedals with amp modeling). Have a rotary switch that will cycle through different bass sounds. That way you have the Spector 9v, 18v, Tone Pump, Aggie OBP, EMG BQC, all right there in one bass. Even add modeling for Ricks, Walls, Sadowsky, etc..

If done well that would be really cool I think.

 

[Torn Bassist]

It's all economics... Supply and Demand...

9v's are in very short supply and very high demand (determined by the number of people who want one of the preamps not already spoken for in a build). The only way to cut down on the demand is to raise the price. I know that they are sometimes putting finished basses ready for assembly off to the side while they wait for a batch of 9v's to arrive.

I've wondered about an onboard preamp for a bass with a chip that uses bass modeling (like how so many companies are making bass amps and pedals with amp modeling). Have a rotary switch that will cycle through different bass sounds. That way you have the Spector 9v, 18v, Tone Pump, Aggie OBP, EMG BQC, all right there in one bass. Even add modeling for Ricks, Walls, Sadowsky, etc..

If done well that would be really cool I think.

If the 9V was easy to purchase for a reasonable price everyone would just buy the production model basses (Euro/Korean) and it would shut down the American shop, the easiest way to control that would be to control the circuit or some other key design feature.

I think your idea sounds great Jeff!

A person could build there own 9V with a little difference in the design of the board and then call it there own.

 

[Aragorn35016]

If the 9V was easy to purchase for a reasonable price everyone would just buy the production model basses (Euro/Korean) and it would shut down the American shop, the easiest way to control that would be to control the circuit or some other key design feature.

I think your idea sounds great Jeff!

A person could build there own 9V with a little difference in the design of the board and then call it there own.

I say that if a preamp is all that distinguishes your imports from your top of the line and its all that keeps your american shop from closing then you have other problems. That being said, if your CB supplier is holding you up from producing in your american shop, then I also say its time to find a new supplier. There's about 30 bucks worth of parts on that board, a single layer blank is probably about 10 to 15 dollars a pop, and all of these items get price breaks as the qty ordered goes up, a skilled tech once up and running with a process could build at least 10 to 15 (maybe more) a day without a problem by himself in his garage if he wanted.

 

[johnsonabq]

I say that if a circuit board is all that distinguishes your imports from your top of the line and its all that keeps your american shop from closing then you have other problems. That being said, if your CB supplier is holding you up from producing in your american shop, then I also say its time to find a new supplier. There's about 30 bucks worth of parts on that board, a single layer blank is probably about 10 to 15 dollars a pop, and all of these items get price breaks as the qty ordered goes up, a skilled tech once up and running with a process could build at least 10 to 15 (maybe more) a day without a problem by himself in his garage if he wanted.

This is the same supplier (HazLabs) they've used from the 70's. I think what's going on here isn't quite that simple or they would've done it. IMHO

 

[Clearwave]

This HAZ problem is poor management by Spector. They could easily find another shop to build that thing. I think Stuart is friends with the guy that builds them and he puts that friendship before business. Which is understandable.

heck, A tech school grad could build all they need in his garage on weekends.

I've had haz pres in spectors before and they are nice, but I think they are overrated here and overpriced. Like I said before, I have one sitting in a drawer and I feel lucky to have it. I want to put it in my Forte, just haven't gotten around to it. The bass sounds really good like it is, so I haven't been that excited about changing anything. I've learned to not mess with something you like. Maybe this weekend.

I believe the mojo in Spector basses is in the wood, design and craftsmanship.

 

[Aragorn35016]

This HAZ problem is poor management by Spector. They could easily find another shop to build that thing. I think Stuart is friends with the guy that builds them and he puts that friendship before business. Which is understandable.

heck, A tech school grad could build all they need in his garage on weekends.

I've had haz pres in spectors before and they are nice, but I think they are overrated here and overpriced. Like I said before, I have one sitting in a drawer and I feel lucky to have it. I want to put it in my Forte, just haven't gotten around to it. The bass sounds really good like it is, so I haven't been that excited about changing anything. Maybe this weekend.

Didnt realize there was another Bama guy on here!

John<- tech school grad

 

[duff2]

This HAZ problem is poor management by Spector. They could easily find another shop to build that thing. I think Stuart is friends with the guy that builds them and he puts that friendship before business. Which is understandable.

heck, A tech school grad could build all they need in his garage on weekends.

I've had haz pres in spectors before and they are nice, but I think they are overrated here and overpriced. Like I said before, I have one sitting in a drawer and I feel lucky to have it. I want to put it in my Forte, just haven't gotten around to it. The bass sounds really good like it is, so I haven't been that excited about changing anything. Maybe this weekend.

Overpriced? Yes, but so are many other luxury items that I can't afford right now.

Overrated? Not to me. That preamp really adds something special to the tone of a Spector bass, IMO of course.

-Duff2

 

[Clearwave]

Didnt realize there was another Bama guy on here!

John<- tech school grad

Roll Tide.