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Spector Club - Part 12

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LimaGuy said:
Just so happens, this was just listed on ebay.

1986 Spector NS-2 Bass Natural | eBay

Since there are some not usual specs on this one.
It should be bringing alot of conversation tonight along with alot of GAS. ;)

Yeah that's an odd bird. Schaller bridge, dot inlays, graphite nut and supposed to be a us /Kramer Model? Would like to see pics of the back n serial #sig. Looks great,smells fishy....
 
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Wow that is weird , no stamped serial number or any Kramer markings on the back of the head stock . No neck volute at the head stock . Looks like a regular ns2a plastic nut . Haz pre has a hand written date on it , bridge looks weird on my iPhone . Body looks way to nice to be an import . Very weird bass indeed . Just having a hard time with it missing the serial number ..... I'm goin to say if there is a serial number it's under the truss rod cover . That's where mine was on my ns6 USA guitar .
 
JPS,
Are you located near this guy?

Can you go tell him he is out of his mind with these prices and sales pitch, and not even actual photos. LOL :rollno: :spit:

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Sorry I just had to vent, after not even getting one bite on my ReBop except for someone trying to offer me $425 on ebay. :mad: And I had tons of photos.

:rollno:

That might be the longest CL ad I've ever seen. And the prices? Hah
 
While I don't expect my Euro Doug Wimbish Signature to be on par with a USA NS-2 by putting the Hazlab into it, I am saving for an American made, my thought is that I love this bass, I want to make it as awesome as possible, and someday when I get my American NS-2, I will have a great backup. I love the looks and feel of my Dougie (What I call my bass) and don't think I can get rid of it, but who knows, maybe once I play an NS-2 it will blow me away so much Dougie won't get much play, then I figure it will be easier to sell to someone in the know.

I am also playing with the idea of getting an American Bridge put on it, I like the idea of intonation screws, but I don't know if I want someone routing Dougie for it to fit...

Wait another day and you can order a replacement Euro Bridge with intonation screws. They're here. Just got clearance from PJ to list them on the SPECTOR site. So no need to route your "Dougie" for a USA. Put a new Euro bridge with intonation screws in it. :-)
 
JPSBassist said:
Wait another day and you can order a replacement Euro Bridge with intonation screws. They're here. Just got clearance from PJ to list them on the SPECTOR site. So no need to route your "Dougie" for a USA. Put a new Euro bridge with intonation screws in it. :-)

Does that mean the older ones might be discounted/ clearanced? Interested in an older non screw us one possibly also.
 
Just so happens, this was just listed on ebay.

1986 Spector NS-2 Bass Natural | eBay

Since there are some not usual specs on this one.
It should be bringing alot of conversation tonight along with alot of GAS. ;)

My first guess is it's a fake.

It looks like a first generation Euro-Series body that's been refinished. There is some nice quilt to come out of the Euro shop...

The lack of copper shielding in the control cavity is greatly alarming. A Kramer would have had this. Thus the refinishing thought.

A dot neck Kramer would have been natural oil finish... NS-2O. Thus again, the argument for refinishing.

NO SPECTOR has ever been made with that bridge. It's a replacement. And you can see that it DOES NOT fit the body routing. The back edge of the bridge sits outside the route, looks like the inside has been filled in some and it's sitting a little off regarding being level...

A Kramer WOULD NOT have a BadAss style bridge.

In the refinish obviously the MADE IN USA Rubber Stamp would have been lost, but so would the Czech Shop Stamp.

NO KRAMER was ever made with Gotoh tuners. They should be Schaller Tuners. So these have been routed out to be larger to fit the larger shafted Gotohs.

In the closeup shot of the headstock. The Double-S is in the wrong position for a Kramer Model. They have the tendency to be closer to the top edge of the headstock, not lower center like this one.

In the closeup shot of the headstock, look at the large crack-like pores of the wood. That screams Euro and the European Rosewood they use for fingerboards. A Kramer would have had Pau Ferro which is a totally different color and has a totally different pore/grain pattern.

So it looks to me like someone took a Euro-Series (early Euro) SPECTOR, refinished it... put in a Haz circuit from a Kramer, changed the hardware to Gotoh's, not realizing that although the newer post 1998 models have Gotoh tuners, this model to be from 1986 (the date on the circuit... which means it's an authentic 9v Kramer-Era circuit in this puppy) it would have had Schallers and the larger (current shape/size) USA Bridge... not the Leo Quan. And the bridge that's on it isn't even the right style of Leo Quan... why? Because those types of Badass bridge are not made anymore and you can't buy them unless you come across one on Ebay or something.

My final thought is FAKE.
 
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Does that mean the older ones might be discounted/ clearanced? Interested in an older non screw us one possibly also.

Sorry! I'm editing this post!

Just got details... basically I read the entire message from PJ.

The non-intonation version WILL also still be available and are getting a price drop.

Sorry! I'll have pricing available on the site a little later today. I'm not supposed to list that stuff here in the open forum. It's against the rules. :-(
 
JPSBassist said:
No because the intonation screws are being added in the NY Shop. So the inventory will be converted over. There will be no left-overs. Ironically, the new basses will not have this bridge since it's actually an aftermarket Mod being done at the NY Workship.

What's the price on one of these puppy's? Any different from the current non modded ones?
 
My first guess is it's a fake.

It looks like a first generation Euro-Series body that's been refinished. There is some nice quilt to come out of the Euro shop...

The lack of copper shielding in the control cavity is greatly alarming. A Kramer would have had this. Thus the refinishing thought.

A dot neck Kramer would have been natural oil finish... NS-2O. Thus again, the argument for refinishing.

NO SPECTOR has ever been made with that bridge. It's a replacement. And you can see that it DOES NOT fit the body routing. The back edge of the bridge sits outside the route, looks like the inside has been filled in some and it's sitting a little off regarding being level...

A Kramer WOULD NOT have a BadAss style bridge.

In the refinish obviously the MADE IN USA Rubber Stamp would have been lost, but so would the Czech Shop Stamp.

NO KRAMER was ever made with Gotoh tuners. They should be Schaller Tuners. So these have been routed out to be larger to fit the larger shafted Gotohs.

In the closeup shot of the headstock. The Double-S is in the wrong position for a Kramer Model. They have the tendency to be closer to the top edge of the headstock, not lower center like this one.

In the closeup shot of the headstock, look at the large crack-like pores of the wood. That screams Euro and the European Rosewood they use for fingerboards. A Kramer would have had Pau Ferro which is a totally different color and has a totally different pore/grain pattern.

So it looks to me like someone took a Euro-Series (early Euro) SPECTOR, refinished it... put in a Haz circuit from a Kramer, changed the hardware to Gotoh's, not realizing that although the newer post 1998 models have Gotoh tuners, this model to be from 1986 (the date on the circuit... which means it's an authentic 9v Kramer-Era circuit in this puppy) it would have had Schallers and the larger (current shape/size) USA Bridge... not the Leo Quan. And the bridge that's on it isn't even the right style of Leo Quan... why? Because those types of Badass bridge are not made anymore and you can't buy them unless you come across one on Ebay or something.

My final thought is FAKE.

I knew something was up with this.

I think the Double-S is in the wrong position for a early Czech model too. And the Double-S on the early Czech models were usually thinner?

The Double-S looks closest to a NS-2A placement.

Whats the deal with Spector in white on the trussrod cover?

The PU's there is no sign of the EMG at all. Usually you would see slight EMG even if it faded off.
And the wires for EMGs were always Red and White, correct? The wiring colors in the cavity dont look like EMGs.

The seller looks like a legit vintage store.
Wonder if they taken by someone? :rollno: :confused:
 
Does that mean the older ones might be discounted/ clearanced? Interested in an older non screw us one possibly also.

I have an unused Euro 5 LX bridge (gold) that I should probably sell.

I bought it because I thought I was going to have to drill the yoke to fit a .142 B string, and I wanted to have an unmodified bridge handy in case I ever wanted to sell the bass in original condition. The .142 turned out to be a taper so I didn't have to modify anything after all.

I paid $150 for it, what do you think is a fair price?
 
My first guess is it's a fake.

It looks like a first generation Euro-Series body that's been refinished. There is some nice quilt to come out of the Euro shop...

The lack of copper shielding in the control cavity is greatly alarming. A Kramer would have had this. Thus the refinishing thought.

A dot neck Kramer would have been natural oil finish... NS-2O. Thus again, the argument for refinishing.

NO SPECTOR has ever been made with that bridge. It's a replacement. And you can see that it DOES NOT fit the body routing. The back edge of the bridge sits outside the route, looks like the inside has been filled in some and it's sitting a little off regarding being level...

A Kramer WOULD NOT have a BadAss style bridge.

In the refinish obviously the MADE IN USA Rubber Stamp would have been lost, but so would the Czech Shop Stamp.

NO KRAMER was ever made with Gotoh tuners. They should be Schaller Tuners. So these have been routed out to be larger to fit the larger shafted Gotohs.

In the closeup shot of the headstock. The Double-S is in the wrong position for a Kramer Model. They have the tendency to be closer to the top edge of the headstock, not lower center like this one.

In the closeup shot of the headstock, look at the large crack-like pores of the wood. That screams Euro and the European Rosewood they use for fingerboards. A Kramer would have had Pau Ferro which is a totally different color and has a totally different pore/grain pattern.

So it looks to me like someone took a Euro-Series (early Euro) SPECTOR, refinished it... put in a Haz circuit from a Kramer, changed the hardware to Gotoh's, not realizing that although the newer post 1998 models have Gotoh tuners, this model to be from 1986 (the date on the circuit... which means it's an authentic 9v Kramer-Era circuit in this puppy) it would have had Schallers and the larger (current shape/size) USA Bridge... not the Leo Quan. And the bridge that's on it isn't even the right style of Leo Quan... why? Because those types of Badass bridge are not made anymore and you can't buy them unless you come across one on Ebay or something.

My final thought is FAKE.
I agree with everything here, although my Kramer era NS2 had black shielding paint, not copper foil.

From what I can see of that wiring, I don't believe those to be active pups. Not even sure they're EMG's, or even the same brand (green outer covering?).

EDIT: Non-active pups. The lighter green wire is a ground headed to the bridge. :eyebrow:

I'm beginning to wonder if this is even an early, transitional Euro (NSCR). The body wood doesn't look that spectacular to me. I've seen stripped NS2A's that looked as good. Plus, why would it have the plastic nut? Why throw the brass "original" away? Plus x2: white "Spector" truss rod cover.
 
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