Thanks! I'll have one more update this evening.
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Spector Club Part 6
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Thanks! I'll have one more update this evening.
Bass Player Live is over today at 4pm...
That is very interesting.... as Pau Ferro is an Ebony (Brazilian Ebony) and is substantially HARDER than Rock Maple, and very close to the hardness of what we know as regular Ebony. Perhaps maple "looks" brighter as it is lighter in color... i have no explanation why regular Ebony would ever sound different than Pau Ferro, as they are so very close in hardness.
- Pau Ferro - Janka rating 2713(lb), density 57(lb/cuft), rupture strength of 22,460(psi)
- Rock Maple - Janka rating 1156(lb), density 35(lb/cuft), rupture strength 13,030(psi)
- Ebony - Janka rating 3220(lb), density 68(lb/cuft), rupture strength 27,400(psi)
So THIS is what the Forte 4 would look like if there were fret marker inlays.... Man, I really like it. I'm now contemplating having them put in on my Forte 4. Then again, I love the organic look of no inlays... but i love the inlays.... GOOD GAWD, I hate being human sometimes!
"You don't know what you want, but you want it!"... Joey Ramone
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Beg to differ thar Captain.... It appears to be Braz Ebony.. do a search.... Some folks erroneously call it Brazilian Rosewood, but it is not a Rosewood. Regardless of that, the density of Pau Ferro appears substantially harder than that of Rock Maple... hence the discussion of Maple being brighter sounding due it being harder than Pau Ferro
http://ejmas.com/tin/2009tin/tinart_goldstein_0904.html
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BTW... what the heck does FYP mean??
Interesting - according to this site (Invalid Link Removed), it's at least called a rosewood.
Regardless of what it is called... it's not a Rosewood. I guess I'm wondering why folks feel that Maple is brighter sounding, when it is like 1/2 the hardness of Pau Ferro. Is it possible a softer wood sounds brighter?
I think its because Maple tends to have a finish on it. at least the maple boards I've played have been.
Yeah, I know. But I've been the bolt-on route with Spector (and others) and just realize I prefer the responsiveness of neck-through.
Hey, I could be real difficult and whine about there being no neck-through Codas.
Actually, I would have no problems with the wide 5 and 6 neck-through's being offered in the Euro line. None at all.
And Yes, excellent job on the BPL/Spector coverage, JPS.
I remember one time a long time ago someone here had a URL for a Spector price list for older Spectors. Could you give that up again please?
GC all of a sudden has a pile of Spector basses and arc6 pros for sale. 4 pages!
NS2A $899.99 NS2JAR-4 Limited Ed reissue WH WC $849.99
NS2000-4 $479.99
NS2000-5 $479.97
NSQ4 $374.99
NS94 $229.00
I'd like to jump on some of those!
GC all of a sudden has a pile of Spector basses and arc6 pros for sale. 4 pages!
NS2A $899.99 NS2JAR-4 Limited Ed reissue WH WC $849.99
NS2000-4 $479.99
NS2000-5 $479.97
NSQ4 $374.99
NS94 $229.00
I'd like to jump on some of those!
They had an NS5-CR and a couple Rebop 5s last month.
Thanks for all the updates JP.
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Thanks for all the updates JP.
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I found a great price list for older Spectors on their website under owner Support. Wow! What a beautiful site! Nice pics along with info and prices!
ARGH!
Sometimes, and only sometimes, I hate living in Canada.
Do wantsIt's red. I wanted a red one. Shipping and customs would be killer. As they usually are for me.
PS. I totally wish I could have been at BPL. Someone up here in the Great White North needs to organize something of the sort. I would be there in a heartbeat.
Yes. The Coda-5 is 34" scale.
And Stuart is very adamant about many things... keeping this bass as close to the 1962 model that inspired it.
Many great "J" players played this bass this weekend and LOVED it. The Coda-4 and Coda-5 are well-thought-out efforts on Stuart's behalf.
I spoke with Justin Meldal-Johnsen towards the end of the show, unfortunately we'd already packed the guitars up... but he gave me his contact info and wants to test drive one... which is way big if you ask me.
The Aguilar guys "borrowed" the Coda-4 for their stage to play along with their new cabs. So the Coda-4 we brought saw some serious action. And EVERY player said the same thing about it. They loved it. It doesn't get much better than that in the way of proving Stuart's concept as being right-on-the-money.
Adlerburg is correct, Pau Ferro IS NOT a Rosewood. And yes it is harder than Rosewood.
And it's often called "Bolivian Rosewood" because of the color of the wood, which is similar to Rosewood.
The reason Pau Ferro has become so popular is:
1) It's very hard, but unlike Ebony, is not prone to being brittle and cracking over time.
2) Even though it is harder than Rosewood, the tone it produces is very similar to Rosewood, thus is it an acceptable alternative.
3) It is an abunant, fast-growning tree and therefore can be used without impact to the rainforest, etc...
Stuart makes sure the sources of his non-domestic and domestic woods are properly documented. Spector will never make guitars with illegally obtained/banned/or endangered wood.
So hopefully to put an end to the argument here... it's actually in a different tree class than both Rosewood and Ebony... is hard like Ebony but more similar to Rosewood in tone and is less prone to cracking, like Rosewood vs. Ebony.
YES! This is a big part of the equation. And the new Spector Maple boards are Birdseye Maple, which may/may not affect tone as well... I have to research this.
And YES... the gloss finish will always affect brightness.
Here's an interesting thing... I'm going to check this out the next couple of days as I shoot photos of these basses and then send them back to the NY workshop.
Yes... they all came to my office after the show. It sucks to be me...
The NS-2 and NS-5XL are both gloss finished. The NS-5H2 has a natural matte poly coat on the fingerboard.
I'm going to try and tell if this makes a brightness difference.
I can tell you that the NS-2 sounds different. Not bad, but brighter with less mids... and the NS-5XL sounds amazing. Perhaps it's the difference between the P/J and dual humbuckers or it's that AND the diff between 9v and 18v circuits.
I plan on finding out.
I'm with you on this one. I do prefer a neck-thru as well.
Hey, I could be real difficult and whine about there being no neck-through Codas.
This weekend I learned a really valuable thing that obviously Stuart already knows... hard-core J players are a different breed and you cannot mess with their formula. It's not acceptable to have a 2x2 or 3x2 headstock. It has to be in-line. You can't do a set-neck or thru-neck... must be a bolt-on... it's part of the sound and the feel/vibe of that genre.
They were all very impressed and so I expect the Coda to continue to sell really well. And it has been selling really well. I mean a superior, professional J that costs less than most the other "established" J makers models? Many said it was a no-brainer. And more than one person walked away with PJ's card to call and order one next week.
It's a certified hit. I totally understand it now. And to me, it makes Stuart just that much more of a bass-building wizard-guru-wise-man than I already think of him.
Me neither. I happen to love the Euro. As a matter of fact, I purchased the guitar Nicky was playing. That's now MY Euro4LX-TW-35 in BEAD....
And Yes, excellent job on the BPL/Spector coverage, JPS.
Thanks! Day two was more slow. But many great bassists dropped by and I got to talk with JMJ about the Coda. Bootsie Collins made a few drop in visits as did Victor Wooten.
It was a cool day to sit back and just geek out over all the cool bassists running around.
True... and it can vary greatly in shade... some Pau Ferro can be purple-ish in color. Or it can go the other way and be yellow-ish or streaked.
I've said this many times. The man who makes these basses has forgotten more about how to build a bass than I'll ever know.
So when Stuart says, this is my preferred wood for this or that... who am I to question it? I don't. I take it on faith. And BTW... I've never been disappointed.
Thank you! PJ Rubal and I worked very hard on a daily basis for almost 4 months to develop this site. And it's still being added to and developed further.
We're going to be adding a huge/cool artist's relations section in the next few weeks.
Plus adding the new models.
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