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Spector Club Pt. 3 (Insert Clever Title Here)

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The negativity and bashing in that Forte thread is crazy...

It seems like a lot of people who dislike Spector are just bashing all over it...

OH WAIT!!!! I forgot, were on the internet.. it's what we folk do. :)

1) This post will only bring the debate over here... as will my rebuttal :p

2) I wouldn't go as far as calling the responses negative or bashing (maybe because I'm part of the accused :smug:). It's just that many of us would expect something a little different. Spector as a brand is quite different from what many would consider the bass "norm" so we feel as though they shouldn't need to resign themselves to the norms of the bass industry i.e. releasing many VERY similar models at slightly varied price points and/or having a set number of models and not necessarily improving on any of them with each new release.

Blame it on our assumptions of Spector being a "different" bass company and on trends of the market, namely the customer being able to get more of what they want from what they buy. We just want to see a little variation is all. Spectors have been virtually unchanged for at least a decade. On second thought, considering the introduction of the budget models (the Q and Legend) that may not be totally true but with regards to the higher end stuff it is.

The three biggest things that I would love to see come out of Spector are 1) A deeper lower cutaway for better full-fretboard access. 2) A single new body style (the differences between the USA Bolt-on, the neck thrus, and the Legends doesn't count to me), and 3) other preamps being standard options not special orders, as in they would be made like that without having being ordered by a customer.

To me, those are things I thought, and still do think will come naturally at some point. When I can't say, but of all the things Spector would do I thought that one of these would be it (or offering 34" scale on 5s and 6s again). You may say "Well you're one person" and I am, but I've heard the same thoughts from many other Spector players so I can't be totally off base in my assumption. I can't imagine that the guys up at Spector haven't considered these ideas themselves.

Anyway, for all I know one of these things could be announced officially at NAMM so maybe we've got something to really look forward to. The 19mm spacing option sounds like a pretty big step to me and I'm glad that it's being made available because that's also something I've heard a bunch of from Spector players (though I dig the spacing myself). That alone has widened there market because there are many bassists who just need that wider spacing.

Bassically speaking, it's not that we want more, because they've given us that, it's that we want different because that's what Spector is!
 
I totally agree with what youre saying, i think Spector needs to introduce something completely new, with a new body shape or whatever it is they choose.

I think a few people over there who were expecting/hoping to hear exactly what they wanted to hear and didnt get it, and jumped on the boo train hahaha. It was almost as if they ignored the other post about MORE new things to be announced at NAMM.


And again, youre right, better leave the angry debate over there... my bad!
 
Not to disagree with you, but I also realize that Spector is staying true to their offerings. The market is already oversaturated with new bass builders that offer so many different styles and flavors with options out the yang that they never let their brand be developed into anything that sticks. That being said, with all of those builders out there, it is entirely possible for anyone to get anything they want, custom made at any price point you can afford. So why would Spector need to join those ranks, because they build something that you cant get from those other guys, a Spector. If you want a Spector bass with brass nut and bridge and EMG pickups and a curved body, you know where to look, right? Now as for the Kwesi who is looking for a deeper cutaway, that is a valid arguement, and I will say, I do think that the guys at Spector could do a little more in the customizing department for paying customers who are interested in a USA made bass. I would never expect this from the Czech stuff, doesnt make financial sense to them. Also if I were Spector, I would offer the Forte line from the Czech made basses, which would bring the price point down to about $1200, versus, $2400. I spoke with P.J. two days ago and he is listening to the banter on here, trust me, and he hears everyone's points of view and is taking them seriously, but let's face it folks, if you want a USA made Spector NS2, well $2400 new is about as cheap as it can possibly be done. When you consider paying the employees, the light bill, the materials, hardware, pickups, and outsourcing finish work, while still trying to make a profit, its just impossible to make an American made bass for less. In short, the NS2 is in an elite group of well known basses, like the Precision, the Jazz, the Rick, the Hofner, and the T-Bird, and then you have the Spector. Its what they do and they should be proud to be in that elite group and continue providing the buying public with a bass that you cant get anywhere else.
 
Not to disagree with you, but I also realize that Spector is staying true to their offerings. The market is already oversaturated with new bass builders that offer so many different styles and flavors with options out the yang that they never let their brand be developed into anything that sticks. That being said, with all of those builders out there, it is entirely possible for anyone to get anything they want, custom made at any price point you can afford. So why would Spector need to join those ranks, because they build something that you cant get from those other guys, a Spector. If you want a Spector bass with brass nut and bridge and EMG pickups and a curved body, you know where to look, right? Now as for the Kwesi who is looking for a deeper cutaway, that is a valid arguement, and I will say, I do think that the guys at Spector could do a little more in the customizing department for paying customers who are interested in a USA made bass. I would never expect this from the Czech stuff, doesnt make financial sense to them. Also if I were Spector, I would offer the Forte line from the Czech made basses, which would bring the price point down to about $1200, versus, $2400. I spoke with P.J. two days ago and he is listening to the banter on here, trust me, and he hears everyone's points of view and is taking them seriously, but let's face it folks, if you want a USA made Spector NS2, well $2400 new is about as cheap as it can possibly be done. When you consider paying the employees, the light bill, the materials, hardware, pickups, and outsourcing finish work, while still trying to make a profit, its just impossible to make an American made bass for less. In short, the NS2 is in an elite group of well known basses, like the Precision, the Jazz, the Rick, the Hofner, and the T-Bird, and then you have the Spector. Its what they do and they should be proud to be in that elite group and continue providing the buying public with a bass that you cant get anywhere else.

Very well put. Of all the elite brands mentioned, not a single one of them can be -or- provide all things to everyone.
 
Back to Bass Pics!!!

Heres my new Baby!

Spector Rebop 5 Dlx in Black Stain. The flame maple top is pure insanity and the sound rocks! :hyper:

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Oh, and: May I have a Number?
 

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Beautiful bass, Murphy! Congrats!

Before all this Forte stuff came into the thread, I wanted to thank those who took a minute to help me I.D. my Spector.
A thought....I'm not in love with the pre-amp / tone circuit. Any recommendations for a replacement suitable for a Spector? Not too familiar with Spector mods, my apologies if this is a common question.
 
Beautiful bass, Murphy! Congrats!

Before all this Forte stuff came into the thread, I wanted to thank those who took a minute to help me I.D. my Spector.
A thought....I'm not in love with the pre-amp / tone circuit. Any recommendations for a replacement suitable for a Spector? Not too familiar with Spector mods, my apologies if this is a common question.

Coming from someone in the process of doing exactly that, I think i might be able to give you a few ideas.

You have some of the Spector options that are offered as upgrades on certain models; the Aguilar OBPs and EMG BQS or BCS. Since youre doing this swap after the fact, you will have to purchase your pre elsewhere and get it installed.

The Aguilar and EMG pre's are good, and as they are offered by Spector in some basses, some people tend to prefer them because of that.

Now, other options that I have read about here are the Hazlab pre's. I cant really give you a lot of information about them, but from what i understand, they used to be used in Spectors in the past? And a lot of people here seem to dig them.


I am in the process of putting in an East pre into my Euro 5XL (as soon as i receive both the bass and pre in the mail ;) ). They are made by a man named John East from the UK. I was suggested to the idea by another contributor in this thread by the name of Wraithrider (sp?) who has had success with his work already.

All of those options are worth checking out, and Im sure other members could give you a few others to check out.
 
I'm in the process of working with John to see if he can make me a U-Retro 5 knob (no switch) deluxe with a combined Vol/blend to slot into my Euro. That's hopefully Vol/blend, Treble cut and boost above Bass boost, Mid cut and boost above sweep, passive tone (ala VTC) with a passive pull. Oh and a bright +6dB on the treble pot too.

I'll have a HazLabs 9v up for grabs if it comes to fruition.

Peter
 
AtomicPunk:
It's Spector Legend 5 (not Classic nor Custom, just Legend). The series before division of Legend into Legend Classic & Legend Custom. Basswood body, Bubinga top, EMG-HZ, EMG circut (not sure which one, active tho).

Here's mine :)
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AtomicPunk:
It's Spector Legend 5 (not Classic nor Custom, just Legend). The series before division of Legend into Legend Classic & Legend Custom. Basswood body, Bubinga top, EMG-HZ, EMG circut (not sure which one, active tho).

Here's mine :)
legend5.jpg

Doman, that is the one I have! :) any idea of the years it was made?
Also, thanks for the pre-amp help, Crimson and Wraith. I've heard lots of good things about the J-Retro but didn't know if they made them for Spectors, I've heard them in Fender basses.
 
Doman, that is the one I have! :) any idea of the years it was made?
Also, thanks for the pre-amp help, Crimson and Wraith. I've heard lots of good things about the J-Retro but didn't know if they made them for Spectors, I've heard them in Fender basses.

You'll have a a few options with East pre's... You can get the U Retro, or you can get the select modules and build up something yourself. Depending on what you want, you can also get something modified (as both Peter and I have).

Very versatile! But good luck with whatever path you choose :)
 
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