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Spector Coda Jazz basses - What do you think?

ggoat!!! said:
That's kinda like seeing Shaquille O'Neal wearing a dress and then saying he's much more of a woman than your own mom.

You could say that any bass with a bolt on neck, alder or ash body, long scale, and magnetic pickups was a fender clone. But the details are what give an instrument it's sound and feel. The neck profile on the coda is all Spector, it's got Spector frets, and the Aggie system has a fairly modern and unique sound. Does not sound or play like either a fender or sadowsky. The overall impression if you close your eyes is "bolt-on Spector". Especially if they are doing EMGs on the 5ers. Not as different from a jazz as an NS2 obviously, but different.
 
Millons of bassist already have this bass, but with the fender logo.

What is the point of building an identical model?
A bassist who looks for a Spector isnt looking for a Jazz tone and viceversa.

Someone explained in another thread the benefit of this (can't remember the thread). Basically this model would allow a Spector endorser to 'stay within the same camp' on gigs requiring a more traditional looking bass. So they could still play their main Spector models and not have to reach out to another brand.

Another item that I saw Stuart point out in an interview was his claim to have eliminated the typical G string dead spot often linked to the Jazz bass. Something to do with the type of truss rod and fingerboard wood used. I haven't heard anyone confirm or dispute this claim but if true I would think this to be a very positive selling point (in addition to the others pointed out in this thread).
 
^ I will confirm, there are NO dead spots on these basses at all.

Also not true, Spector does not have a magic solution that other makers of high end basses don't have. It is going to vary from bass to bass. My coda was reasonably but not completely even, and my NS-5 had a substantial dead spot. No builder is immune.
 
I don't think you get much of any noise when soloing pickups! Unless your room is very noisy (in electrical terms) you shouldn't have any problems. I could take some videos/ sound clips with the Coda Deluxe 4 I have right now if you'd like! (Send me a PM)

Right. PM'ed you. And thanks. I'm just about to finalize on a Coda 5 in their stock metallic blue, with maple fretboard, and MOP inlays, and a Hipshot bridge. Any inputs on solo'ed bridge p'ups on this bass would be helpful.:bassist:
 
I think codas are good, but I totally disagree with that comparison. It's not the same thing at all.

Are you saying that the Coda does not reside in the same sonic space as let's say a Fender Jazz, Sadowsky, or Lull ? Or is it that it does reside in that basic territory, but retains elements of the Spector sound ? Ds1, do you have an op' on this, too ? Plus how do you think a Coda would sound if the Aguilar p'ups were replaced by EMG's ( humcancelling ) ?:confused:
 
the same sonic space as let's say a Fender Jazz, Sadowsky, or Lull ?

Those are all a little different from each other in my book. Every building brings their own vibe to the instrument regardless of the design. Of course, its on the same page, but the Coda does have that Spector vibe to it.

Then again some people think the neck pickup on a J-bass sounds like a P-bass :ninja:
 
Those are all a little different from each other in my book. Every building brings their own vibe to the instrument regardless of the design. Of course, its on the same page, but the Coda does have that Spector vibe to it.

Then again some people think the neck pickup on a J-bass sounds like a P-bass :ninja:

Ahh, that is what I wanted to know. And I think it's good that bassmakers give us their "takes" on the original P, and J basses that invented electric bass. Leo's idea with Stuart's, or Roger's, or Mike's spins on it. Also, I am actually one of those people who think that the neck p'up on a jazz approximates a precision bass sound. However, I guess it sounds even more like a jazz bass with neck p'up solo'ed, which is what it is, after all. ( like Max talking to the chief ) :hmm:
 
I think almost all high end bass coffee table basses with bartolinis sound more like each other than a J's neck pickup sounds like a P.

So yeah, if you're not into hair splitting the coda sounds like a J-bass. But if you're not into hair splitting I'm not sure why you'd be shopping for anything other than a pick-of-the-litter MIJ or MIM Jazz or Skyline.
 
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Forget the sound, still looks like a Fender. And for those not wanting to own an instrument that looks like the same TYPE of instrument out there by the billions, it's pointless.

I get the need for it but I don't get the need for it :)

Spector should just continue making Warwick clones!


(I kid :) )
 
I haven't heard if anyone actually playing and buying a Coda yet, so here's the question: What do you think? Have you even heard of them yet?

I think they look good but find it a bit of a shame to see one of these from spector.
So they too have joined the fender "clonists".
If it helps business however...why not.
I personally wouldn't buy one of these though.
 
I think almost all high end bass coffee table basses with bartolinis sound more like each other than a J's neck pickup sounds like a P.

So yeah, if you're not into hair splitting the coda sounds like a J-bass. But if you're not into hair splitting I'm not sure why you'd be shopping for anything other than a pick-of-the-litter MIJ or MIM Jazz or Skyline.

And I think a lot of high end coffee table basses sound a lot like Jazz basses, lol.

I am definitely not about hair splitting when it comes to bass tone (I don't think I could afford to be, to be perfectly honest). I think all neck pickups sound pretty similar. Solo the neck pickup on almost any bass with two pickups and you'll be "in the ball park" of the p tone.

That's actually very good news for someone like me, because the P bass has my all time favorite tone. So knowing that I can get pretty close just by soloing the neck pickup on another bass is reassuring.
 
A word about Spector Quality. Including mostly OPINIONS ;)

First off I will say that I endorse Spector USA, and have since 2005. There was a time in my life where I could have pretty much endorsed anyone I wanted to, excluding the likes of Fodera and boutique builders of their ilk. That time has long passed, but I can say that having owned or played probably over 40 basses from different brands, that the USA Spectors are without a doubt some of the finest handmade basses available anywhere in the world.

Because of the very aggressive "signature" tone associated with these basses, they are often not included among the ranks of the more currently en-vogue boutique basses like Fodera, Roscoe, Brubaker, Elrick, MTD etc, despite the USA Spectors being built to as high or a higher standard than all of these, and using top-top grade woods. Many Spector models have body wings made from SOLID AAAAA quilted or flamed maple where many basses costing nearly twice as much offer only a 1/4" or even 1/8" inch top... and that's just one example. In terms of pedigree... there is really only one or two other individuals who have been building "custom" basses longer than Stuart Spector, and most of the more currently popular luthiers cite Stuart as one of their biggest inspirations.

There are, IMHO, some other reasons Spector is not "in the club" anymore.... one is their long-term use of EMG pickups. Now, time was when you weren't considered a serious bassist unless you used EMG pickups. These days it's Bartolini or Nordstrand, although Barts have been offered in top-shelf basses for a very long time.... many people just do not dig the EMG sound. That being the case, a Spector equipped with Nordstrands just wouldn't be a Spector. They have never been a brand that had "something for everyone" and available with all types of different sonic personalities... Spectors sound like Spectors and the tone is as readily identifiable on a track as a Musicman or a Ric.

Another, and I think the biggest, reason Spectors are not included in the Boutique club any longer is BRAND DILUTION. Probably 80% of the Spectors out there are lower-cost imports. When most younger or less gear-obsessed players thing of Spector, they're thinking of a $300 Korean import bass, or perhaps the Czech basses. I know at least a few people personally who actually had no idea that Spector made top-quality handmade USA basses. A boutique builder takes a great risk when they begin to offer import basses below the $1,000 price mark. No matter how good they are, the builder runs the risk of diluting the power and prestige of their brand. In the 1990's Spector was widely considered one of the finest handmade basses available.

I have owned or played Marco basses, Brubaker basses, MTD, Hoyt, Sadowsky NYC, USA Lakland, STR, Fodera and many others... and my USA Spector NS-JH5 has woodwork, fit & finish, playability and attention to detail equal to or superior to each of these.

Any new Boutique Jazz bass out there immediately invites comparison to Sadowsky. Roger Sadowsky makes wonderful basses.... but the hype is a little out of control IMHO. I happen to prefer the USA Laklands for "J-Style" basses because I find them to be at least equal to the Sadowsky's in quality and have an overall more traditional sound and feel. There are lots of people who vehemently, even violently defend Sadowsky against Lakland and others.... which I will never understand.... They are both top-notch basses, neither is "superior" to the other.... they're just very different and will appeal to different people.... but usually you don't see the Lakland guys running around telling everyone that everything other than Lakland is total garbage ... who knows.

The new Coda looks like a NYC Sadowsky. So do a lot of basses. This one just happens to also be a NY-made handmade bass... so the comparison is unavoidable. IMHO, the Coda and the Sadowsky couldn't be more different. The neck feel is totally opposite the Sadowsky. While probably not actually any thicker, the profile feels more substantial and "familliar". The Coda is heavier than the Sadowsky, and feels more formidable. I know these days everyone seems to feel that lighter is better... I couldn't disagree more. To a point, heavier instruments often resonate differently, and respond in a different way than lighter basses, doubly so when you introduce things like chambering or 'weight-relieved" construction... just ask any Les Paul aficionado. The tone of the Spector is both MORE modern and MORE agressive than the Sadowsky, while also being able to cop the very vintage tones at least as well as the Sadowsky.

Overall, the Coda is just what it should be... the Spector version of a Jazz-Bass. The unadorned basic tone of this bass is very very powerful... not necessarily aggressive, although it does aggressive in spades.... but the best word I can think of in terms of the tone is Powerful. When solo'ing the bridge, it still has that upper midrange buzz and punchy midrange... but as where I would normally boost a lot of bass when playing a Fender or Lakland to get "my tone"... the Spector needs nothing.... it's just way thicker and more powerful when solo'ing the bridge. Spector Jazz bass. Love it or leave it. The construction and fit and finish is at least as good as the USA Sadowsky's, and far superior to many other players in this price range.
 
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