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Splitting instrument signal, then mixing into single output???

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BurnsFury

Jan 10, 2012
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#1
Ok so i have a Morley ABC pedal, id like to run my bass into that, then split it into a channel with a MarkBass Octave pedal, and another channel with distortion/other effects. Would it be possible to use a

Morley ABY Mix Guitar Mixer and Switcher | Musician's Friend

to mix these two signals and back into my amp head?

Like this...
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Have you tried this, what was your results? Better Suggestions?
 
#5
WardEarth said:
not sure. but if you haven't checked out the xotic xblender, you should. It works great for finding a good blend between two signals.
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This is more like a EHX Kill/Chillswitch, it just makes a seperate effects loops with the clean, I believe. Im looking to mix two active fx signals and send them into my amp head. I already have a homemade ABC pedal, to run split my instrument signal.

Thanks though.
 
#6
I have a blue Mosquite Blender...

Amazon.com: mosquite blender

It's great, no humm/hiss and I love the tiny footprint. You can wire it to blend wet and dry signals, or wire it to be a footswitchable effects loop. I have it setup so I can blend fuzz with my clean signal so I'm not lost in the mix.
 
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#7
I use a Boss LS 2. Which has me jonesing for a X-otic X- Blender. And BTW I do have and use a ABY. Different and can work together well.

Remember how many times you said that you wished a Whammy came with a blend? Now It can. That fuzz you love but steals your bass. I bought a Digitech Bass Driver. Cheap-0 pedal but it was the first in my expirence to have a blend knob. Still have that and it's really not a bad pedal.
 
#8
I swear by the Xotic XBlender. No volume drop, no tone suck, just a nice mix between your clean sound and effect chain. I'd buy another one if I wanted a second effects chain.
 
#9
There's a couple different ways to do what you want. The cheapest is with a mini mixer. Nady and Behringer both make mini mixers that fit on a board alright and don't woefully color the sound. Split with your Morley, go crazy with your signal chain and mix with the mixer.

The other is to get a multiple parallel looper. A single parallel looper is usually referred to as a blender, the xotic xblender is one of these. Dual parallel loopers include the Boss LS-2, sfxsound Split and mix, and the Badger Schism has two external loops with a clean blend. Wounded Paw makes some more exotic versions of a parallel looper.

The multi parallel looper does all of the splitting and mixing from one pedal, and is usually controlled in some way with a loop specific footswitches.
 
#11
I love when yall read the title, then dont read the posts...

Gimme a second ill make a drawing of what I mean.

EDIT: like so...

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Would that morley that I linked give me the result im looking for?

I still want the option of turning either of the channels off at anytime, thats why Id like to keep the ABC pedal in line, and not use an effects loop type pedal.
 
#12
You've been offered a number of correct answers. Something like the Boss LS-2 or Xotic Blender would work for your needs. They provide you with parallel loops, but if you want to use them as just a mixer just use the returns and ignore the sends.

Or, use a mixer like Cheapbasslovin pointed out.

The Morley would work fine, but if you are already switching the signal at the A/B/C, why would you need to switch again at the A/B/Y?
 
#13
famousbirds said:
The Morley would work fine, but if you are already switching the signal at the A/B/C, why would you need to switch again at the A/B/Y?
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I do not wish to switch, I have no need for the A/B on the morley. Which is what im asking, I just need a pedal that will take two lines from my ABC and mix them, with possibly a volume control that the Morley mixer offers. I just need a single output.

The blender and the ls2 or more of like adding an effects loop with a seperate volume control. I want the ability to cut off either of the lines not just one. Unless I am mistaken about those pedals.
 
#15
The Morley Twin mix allows you to mute inputs, while the ABY mix mutes outputs. They both should mix for you.

For the record, Morley's documentation on these pedals kind of sucks. I don't feel comfortable saying I KNOW what the internal routing on these pedals is based on their documentation. They both do seem to be able to mix to one channel, but if you plug into the second output channel I'm not dead certain what happens.
 
#16
Check out the company Lehle, they make a slew of routing pedals for almost any situation.

I have the Lehle Parallel L on my board that allows a few things to be done.

what it's main purpose is for is to take a single input, run it clean to the output, then send a separate effects loop with a send and return. You get to blend the mix and control send and return gain.

However, you can also just use the return with no send to be able to mix two inputs into the one output.

Or you can also use the send without the return to send the input to another amp. And even then you could run another input to the return and mix that with the original input.

Routing is fun, complicated, and full of possibilities. And this was just the pedal I got for my specific needs (blending guitar pedals into a clean bass signal). I'm sure one of their pedals does everything you need in one.

I don't have time to look into extensively, but I think the 1at3 SGoS Switcher can pull off everything you want with one pedal when you use the C->B jack for a loop that gets blended into the B output. So you would input your instrument, run A to your other amp, run B with some effects and C with other effects path and blend/mix that into the B output.

The lehle website is very helpful with good visualizations and thorough manuals.
 
#18
I do almost exactly this with the 2 outputs of my Attitude bass, process each signal separately and mix them into a single amp. The venerable Boss LS-2 set to A+B mix mode with the signals plugged into return A and return B works perfectly.

Note you have to be running on mains for this to work or else you need a dummy jack in the LS-2 main input to power it on batteries.
 
#19
A Morley A/B pedal will actually steal some of your tone. I have used several over the years. Then I got a Radial Twin City and it is a lot better. It was better enough that when I did an a/b test of the two, I was truly amazed at the difference. I split my signal every time I play and have for a long while. Radial makes them with more options also; more ins and outs, I believe. Don't get me wrong though, the Morley will do the job.
 

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