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Squier Classic Vibe 2019

@bunker I would suggest (after listening to the clips) return the CV and throw a few extra $$ with it and get a Player Jazz or P bass. Those two are awesome.

But if you do decide to keep this one definitely change out the strings at least. To me they sounded brittle and harsh. What I have to do with my VM jazz is play with the tone turned down by about a 1/4

The MIM player doesn't have any kind of 70s JB tone, hélas :(

The media is asking for a URL so I'm just uploading the clips to SoundCloud now.

Bass > MXR Studio Compressor > Focusrite Liquid 56 > iMac. No EQ etc applied, just the dry .wav's

Please don't laugh too hard at my awful playing!!!

Both pickups

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Both but with the tone rolled right back

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Both pickups together sound great. Apart your E string that is doing that "bullet noise"... I guess either they put cheap strings, either you need to break them in! Thanks for your audio clips, mate.
 
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The media is asking for a URL so I'm just uploading the clips to SoundCloud now.

Bass > MXR Studio Compressor > Focusrite Liquid 56 > iMac. No EQ etc applied, just the dry .wav's

Please don't laugh too hard at my awful playing!!!

Both pickups

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Bridge pickup

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Neck pickup

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Both but with the tone rolled right back

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WOW! Guys, this new 70s jazz bass sounds GREAT! They really nailed it as far as that.

@bunker Sorry that you have a bit of neck dive, and one of your knobs is a little stiffer than the others, but I would definatley put up with that to sound that good for only $500 bucks!!

As far as the actual build quality, I can't say anything yet until I try it for myself. From what @bunker has told me, there are a few little issues here and there, but if things are THAT bad, which I highly doubt they are, I am willing to spend the money for the necessary mods. Sure, you could argue that for the same cost as modding the Squier to top spec, you may as well spend it on the real deal bass, but personally for me, I would rather mod a bass to my personal taste than just pick a bass off the shelf, which, there is still no garuantee it comes out perfect, or to your liking (and you would just end up spending more on it if that's the case).

But anyway, this new 70s jazz hooked up to a fender rumble... oof I can just imagine that can do some damage! And with your own EQing, I recon that sounds as good as any Fender. Can't wait to get my hands all over this bass soon! :thumbsup:
 
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Thanks guys. Maybe I've jumped the gun a bit... It's a really nice guitar and as I keep saying I've not played one of the old CV's and I've only old knowledge of one VM so take my comments with a pinch of salt. I'm playing about with the guitar now and its deffo growing on me. One of the knobs just wants a tweak of the grub screw, I've nipped up the 4 screws for the pickup and it plays really well. I might be overdoing the neck thing, especially after picking up a few Fender and Squier basses this morning and them all doing the same thing. I'm used to fingering fairly close to the bridge but adapting and coming slightly further away is yielding some lovely tone so maybe these are just the little traits of the Jazz Bass I'm not used to? Yeah, there are a couple of little QC issues but nothing a few minutes won't sort out. I have noticed that the interaction between both volume controls and the tone control isn't very widely spaced; thats to say in some positions most of the control seems crammed toward the top end of the pot, as if the 'wrong' sized pot has been used? Maybe this is another one of those traits?
 
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Thanks guys. Maybe I've jumped the gun a bit... It's a really nice guitar and as I keep saying I've not played one of the old CV's and I've only old knowledge of one VM so take my comments with a pinch of salt. I'm playing about with the guitar now and its deffo growing on me. One of the knobs just wants a tweak of the grub screw, I've nipped up the 4 screws for the pickup and it plays really well. I might be overdoing the neck thing, especially after picking up a few Fender and Squier basses this morning and them all doing the same thing. I'm used to fingering fairly close to the bridge but adapting and coming slightly further away is yielding some lovely tone so maybe these are just the little traits of the Jazz Bass I'm not used to? Yeah, there are a couple of little QC issues but nothing a few minutes won't sort out. I have noticed that the interaction between both volume controls and the tone control isn't very widely spaced; thats to say in some positions most of the control seems crammed toward the top end of the pot, as if the 'wrong' sized pot has been used? Maybe this is another one of those traits?

Nice! Enjoy I can already tell what a sweet bass it is, you enjoy messing about with it. Make it yours!!

What do you think of the volume and tone pots? Would they need a replacement to some nicer pots, just to improve your range and stability. Maybe some Fender jazz pots? IDK much about this stuff. Are they 250k?

Pickups I don't think would be an issue on these CV's, I can actually see the pots being more of an issue. good pots would really make a bass that bit better in function on a Squier
 
Nice! Enjoy I can already tell what a sweet bass it is, you enjoy messing about with it. Make it yours!!

What do you think of the volume and tone pots? Would they need a replacement to some nicer pots, just to improve your range and stability. Maybe some Fender jazz pots? IDK much about this stuff. Are they 250k?

Pickups I don't think would be an issue on these CV's, I can actually see the pots being more of an issue. good pots would really make a bass that bit better in function on a Squier

If I do decide its a keeper I'll open it up and take a look inside. The good two feel like quality items to be fair. I'm okay with a soldering iron so maybe I'll upgrade them, I'll hang fire for now though. I don't know much about what different pots are used across the ranges but CTS are usually a safe bet to upgrade to. As for resistances I don't know what Fender used in the 70's but if I was to upgrade I'd look into using those values and cap value.
 
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Pots do a lot on the tone, I promise, I don't know what does what but I've seen video exemples

Pots are very simple components, they ought to have a negligible effect on tone provided that they are an appropriate value for the circuit and are not scratchy. You can change to a different value tone pot for a different range of tones but one is not ‘better’ than another.

Thanks guys. Maybe I've jumped the gun a bit... It's a really nice guitar and as I keep saying I've not played one of the old CV's and I've only old knowledge of one VM so take my comments with a pinch of salt. I'm playing about with the guitar now and its deffo growing on me. One of the knobs just wants a tweak of the grub screw, I've nipped up the 4 screws for the pickup and it plays really well. I might be overdoing the neck thing, especially after picking up a few Fender and Squier basses this morning and them all doing the same thing. I'm used to fingering fairly close to the bridge but adapting and coming slightly further away is yielding some lovely tone so maybe these are just the little traits of the Jazz Bass I'm not used to? Yeah, there are a couple of little QC issues but nothing a few minutes won't sort out. I have noticed that the interaction between both volume controls and the tone control isn't very widely spaced; thats to say in some positions most of the control seems crammed toward the top end of the pot, as if the 'wrong' sized pot has been used? Maybe this is another one of those traits?

Really glad to hear you are digging the bass after a bit of time with it. The behaviour of the pots where they seem to have most of the control in a small part of their throw (especially in reference to the interaction between the two volumes) is 100% normal for a passive jazz bass circuit - my ‘74 is exactly the same and so was my old VM jazz. It’s to do with the cancellation that happens when the two pickups are at the same volume pot position - when that cancellation comes in, it does so quite suddenly.

If the pot is still scratchy, you could try just turning it from 0-10 back and forth for a while. It sounds simple but it often works for me, I live in a high humidity environment and often find that my pots are ever so slightly scratchy if they haven’t been turned for a while (the scratchy sound is caused by a fine layer of oxidisation on the contact surface of the pot). Turning it a few times wipes it clean. Whatever you do, don’t use a ‘pot cleaner’ spray - they’re more likely to ruin pots than fix them.

If the body is 6.6lb then that is phenomenally light for a jazz! That indicates that the body on your particular bass is very light, and that would be the cause of the neck dive. Lighter tuners and a heavier bridge might help, but if the body is that light then it still might dive even still.

The headstock blemish is I think pretty reasonable given the price of the instrument.

Re the looseness of the pickups - do they just need their screws adjusted so that the pickup is snug?
 
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Pots are very simple components, they ought to have a negligible effect on tone provided that they are an appropriate value for the circuit and are not scratchy. You can change to a different value tone pot for a different range of tones but one is not ‘better’ than another.



Really glad to hear you are digging the bass after a bit of time with it. The behaviour of the pots where they seem to have most of the control in a small part of their throw (especially in reference to the interaction between the two volumes) is 100% normal for a passive jazz bass circuit - my ‘74 is exactly the same and so was my old VM jazz. It’s to do with the cancellation that happens when the two pickups are at the same volume pot position - when that cancellation comes in, it does so quite suddenly.

If the pot is still scratchy, you could try just turning it from 0-10 back and forth for a while. It sounds simple but it often works for me, I live in a high humidity environment and often find that my pots are ever so slightly scratchy if they haven’t been turned for a while (the scratchy sound is caused by a fine layer of oxidisation on the contact surface of the pot). Turning it a few times wipes it clean. Whatever you do, don’t use a ‘pot cleaner’ spray - they’re more likely to ruin pots than fix them.

If the body is 6.6lb then that is phenomenally light for a jazz! That indicates that the body on your particular bass is very light, and that would be the cause of the neck dive. Lighter tuners and a heavier bridge might help, but if the body is that light then it still might dive even still.

The headstock blemish is I think pretty reasonable given the price of the instrument.

Re the looseness of the pickups - do they just need their screws adjusted so that the pickup is snug?

Yeah, they were wound out a bit so I just screwed them all down until the were snug. No big deal. Same as the loose knob. Its just those little QC things; maybe a new production line or similar? These are the first out of the door so to speak. Glad to hear thats normal behaviour re phase cancellation; if thats what J's do then thats cool!

The knob feels like its damaged or a second. Its a lot stiffer than the others over most of its range but frees up toward the bottom end. No crackling etc, just mechanical feel. The others are silky smooth but with a decent amount of resistance and a really nice feel.

Edit - The pot was the protective foil fouling on the knob. All sorted!
 
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Just got the 60s jazz in Daphne blue. Haven’t had a lot of time to get to know it yet though but initial impressions seem good....
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