Squier Classic Vibe 2019

[InstantEctobass]

Sorry, but i dont believe you. How could it be good, new cv basses made of poplar wood. I saw new model of squier jaguar bass on sweetwater and its made of nato wood. Such a shame to squier, even cheap affinities was made of maple.

Affinitys have either been Alder for the best ones, or Agathis for the cheaper ones. The only that had maple bodies were the Squier VM 70 (1st and 2nd gen) and the Squier CV 70 (2019). Maple isn't common for a body wood. I know the Fender Steve Harris Precision Bass is made with maple too (from body to neck!).

 

[4sight]

Affinitys have either been Alder for the best ones, or Agathis for the cheaper ones. The only that had maple bodies were the Squier VM 70 (1st and 2nd gen) and the Squier CV 70 (2019). Maple isn't common for a body wood. I know the Fender Steve Harris Precision Bass is made with maple too (from body to neck!).

Also poplar and agathis are fine woods to use for an instrument. Discounting someone's post as untrue based on body wood seems a little foolish to me. The best sounding P bass I ever had was plywood!

 

[InstantEctobass]

Also poplar and agathis are fine woods to use for an instrument. Discounting someone's post as untrue based on body wood seems a little foolish to me. The best sounding P bass I ever had was plywood!

Oh, I wasn't stating that a wood was better than another, don't worry I'm not into the wood war anymore! Maybe on the fingerboard, because of course, it does a little on the tone, but other than that, it's preferences. For instance, I love how my basswood 1st CV Jazz sounds, even though I know that it dings easier than if it would have been alder. Another issue can be the look if you plan a Sunburst or natural finish, but other than that... wood is wood! and it makes music for you

 

[ruju]

Sorry, but i dont believe you. How could it be good, new cv basses made of poplar wood. I saw new model of squier jaguar bass on sweetwater and its made of nato wood. Such a shame to squier, even cheap affinities was made of maple.

What's wrong with Poplar besides it's slightly greenish hue. It's a solid Daphne blue colour.
Please don't start this old tired debate on "tonewood", based on non-facts. It's laughable at this point. Try the instrument for yourself before passing judgement. I have no reason to lie. I'm a happy owner of Squier,Fender,and Sterling.

 

[ruju]

Also poplar and agathis are fine woods to use for an instrument. Discounting someone's post as untrue based on body wood seems a little foolish to me. The best sounding P bass I ever had was plywood!

Thank you. The quality of an instrument is made up of the sum of all its parts. I'm not even saying the older CV s are bad. They were great.

 

[Heavy Blue]

While I don't believe all the hype over "tonewood". I had an basswood Ibby that I had to do the toothpick trick on almost every hole on it so that kinda soured me on basswood. My experience with agathis isn't real good either but it was low end gear so likely more at play here than just the body wood.

My maple-bodied VM Jazz sounds great...and weighs a ton. I don't gig with it.

 

[InstantEctobass]

While I don't believe all the hype over "tonewood". I had an basswood Ibby that I had to do the toothpick trick on almost every hole on it so that kinda soured me on basswood. My experience with agathis isn't real good either but it was low end gear so likely more at play here than just the body wood.

My maple-bodied VM Jazz sounds great...and weighs a ton. I don't gig with it.

I agree on the toothpick trick for basswood, it's a softwood. Agathis as well. But I got a maple body and a basswood body on my two main basses and they both weigh the same! (same neck and tuners)

 

[Heavy Blue]

I agree on the toothpick trick for basswood, it's a softwood. Agathis as well. But I got a maple body and a basswood body on my two main basses and they both weigh the same! (same neck and tuners)

Wow! My other bass is an '03 MM StingRay 4H. Idk what the body is made from but it's much lighter than the jazz. The old basswood Ibby was lighter too.

 

[4sight]

I agree on the toothpick trick for basswood, it's a softwood. Agathis as well. But I got a maple body and a basswood body on my two main basses and they both weigh the same! (same neck and tuners)

I've had to use the toothpick trick on alder, basswood, poplar, agathis, plywood and mystery (probably nato) bodied basses, I probably just change pickguards too often

 

[InstantEctobass]

Wow! My other bass is an '03 MM StingRay 4H. Idk what the body is made from but it's much lighter than the jazz. The old basswood Ibby was lighter too.

Maybe there are difference species of basswood after all... my 1st Gen CV 60 OW Jazz is 4,2 Kg (basswood body, rosewood neck) and my hybrid 2nd CV 70 Jazz NAT with a 1st Gen CV 60 neck is 4,1 Kg (soft maple body with rosewood neck)

 

[4sight]

Maybe there are difference species of basswood after all... my 1st Gen CV 60 OW Jazz is 4,2 Kg (basswood body, rosewood neck) and my hybrid 2nd CV 70 Jazz NAT with a 1st Gen CV 60 neck is 4,1 Kg (soft maple body with rosewood neck)

Definitely. I have a 90s Taiwanese Yamaha made from basswood that is lightweight and a total dent magnet, my 1st gen CV Jazz was a similar weight to yours and seemed pretty dent resistant...

 

[InstantEctobass]

Definitely. I have a 90s Taiwanese Yamaha made from basswood that is lightweight and a total dent magnet, my 1st gen CV Jazz was a similar weight to yours and seemed pretty dent resistant...

I did one of mine with the pressure of my finger to "brush off" a dirt that was really sticky! Oh well, bruises

 

[Texican]

Sorry, but i dont believe you. How could it be good, new cv basses made of poplar wood. I saw new model of squier jaguar bass on sweetwater and its made of nato wood. Such a shame to squier, even cheap affinities was made of maple.

MIM Fenders used to be made of Poplar. Affinities were, for the most part I believe, made of Agathis or Alder. The Chinese CV’s were made of Basswood, which a lot of people complained about as “cheap”.

Also, you don’t believe him that he had a good experience with his guitar? Lol... I seriously doubt Squier is paying people to lie.

EDIT: I didn’t realize the cavalry had already rode in before me with basically the same reply. At least I know I’m not alone lol.

 

[Yahboy]

Actually, the new CV 70s P basses are different. They lack the bridge cover and tug bar, their bodies are nato instead of basswood, and they're made in Indonesia instead of China. They also sell for $50 less. I guess Fender wanted a little more space between the Squier CV and its own MIM.

Yes, you spot out the point.
Since China CV build quality are better than previous fender mim std even current mim Player. Stop the great CV line and rebranding the VM line to 2019 CV to make the quality different to mim player.
This is FMIC's very deliberate business approach.

 

[interpol129]

Stop the great CV line and rebranding the VM line to 2019 CV to make the quality different to mim player

Totally agree

 

[ruju]

Yes, you spot out the point.
Since China CV build quality are better than previous fender mim std even current mim Player. Stop the great CV line and rebranding the VM line to 2019 CV to make the quality different to mim player.
This is FMIC's very deliberate business approach.

I don't know about rebranding of the VM line. Except for the fact that the 2019 CV's are made in Indonesia, there are more than a few differences between the two.

 

[4sight]

I don't know about rebranding of the VM line. Except for the fact that the 2019 CV's are made in Indonesia, there are more than a few differences between the two.

Yeah, I see it as more of a removal of the VM line rather than rebrand. The new CVs have similar specs to the original Chinese line. Simplifies the product line, Affinity for entry level, CV for higher end, then MIM Fenders for the "next level".

I agree that the old CVs were better than was wise for FMIC from a business sense though.

 

[InstantEctobass]

Yeah, I see it as more of a removal of the VM line rather than rebrand. The new CVs have similar specs to the original Chinese line. Simplifies the product line, Affinity for entry level, CV for higher end, then MIM Fenders for the "next level".

I agree that the old CVs were better than was wise for FMIC from a business sense though.

That's why I'm never selling my CV 60s Jazz. If someday I have to put 250 bills to refret, I will, cause these necks are top notch.

 

[4sight]

That's why I'm never selling my CV 60s Jazz. If someday I have to put 250 bills to refret, I will, cause these necks are top notch.

The Jazzes are really under-valued still for some reason, resale value wise. The CV Precisions sell for much more, at least from what I've seen. Stock up on then Js while you can guys!

I'd take a Chinese 60s CV over any MIM Jazz I've played.

 

[InstantEctobass]

The Jazzes are really under-valued still for some reason, resale value wise. The CV Precisions sell for much more, at least from what I've seen. Stock up on then Js while you can guys!

I'd take a Chinese 60s CV over any MIM Jazz I've played.

I'm looking for a Chinese CV Jazz everyday but they don't pop up or they were left abandonned from the day the person who listed bought it... and from the picture I see a very dry rosewood and a tarnished brass on the saddles