• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join free Log in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Squier Classic Vibe Club (Part 3)

#2,021
FTR: I LOVED the neck on the CV P I had

these new Squier necks are the best I've played, and I've had so many boutique brands, and even did 3D CAD modeling for some builders.

the CV '70s Jazz (2021) is phenomenal.

i was never a maple board guy, but the new models with the tall, narrow frets - stunning.

this is a nice P model, making me reconsider! HA!

cv.JPG
 
  • Like
Reactions: jafp, grrg63, aus_bass and 1 other person
#2,023
sonojono said:
Maybe it's my bad luck but the recent purchases of the new CV basses I've owned, the necks had terrible bowing and poor truss rod issues :crying:

Moving forward I've been on the hunt on buying the VM necks which have better stability IME than the new series. Specifically the necks with block inlays.
Click to expand...


the maple with block inlay 2021 CV jazz neck is one of the best i've ever played.

VERY responsive truss.

i have a VM fretless that is amazing as well.

20220616_080257.jpg
 
  • Like
Reactions: Yahboy
#2,024
Cave Puppy said:
The neck mine hasn't moved at all since I set it up to Fender specs about a week ago. The other Squier necks I mentioned above haven't moved at all either. It takes a few truss rod adjustments before a neck "settles in."
Click to expand...

No, a good neck is set in one time. Necks that requires multiple adjustements are bad because the trussrod end is eating the wood inside the cavity and aren't keeping the position it was set too. In a short or longer term, it results in a maxxed trussrod with no action on the neck and the strings' tension warps the wood and the neck is dead.
 
  • Like
Reactions: sonojono
#2,025
NoSlapForYou said:
If that was true, wouldn't every single jazz bass have that problem? 41.5 millimeters is not "very thin." Most jazz basses are 38 are so.

It's not as thin as either of my other bass necks, and they have not warped in years of ownership. And yes, before you ask, they also have a C profile.

Just say you didn't like the neck, and leave it at that.
Click to expand...

width nut and back profile are often mixed, but you can have a 38mm nut width neck with a good big U profile (i have one, I set the trussrod 19 months ago and it never moved), also you can't compare old maple that dried naturally for months/years compare to brand new maple that was grown fastly and quickly turn into a slim neck, you just can't
 
#2,027
InstantEctobass said:
No, a good neck is set in one time. Necks that requires multiple adjustements are bad because the trussrod end is eating the wood inside the cavity and aren't keeping the position it was set too. In a short or longer term, it results in a maxxed trussrod with no action on the neck and the strings' tension warps the wood and the neck is dead.
Click to expand...

Totally not true. Ask ANY guitar repair person (me included - I have repaired and fixed many friend's guitars and basses). Wooden necks need at least 3-4 adjustments per year due to changes in weather, humidity, etc. "Good" necks will not adjust over time if you only adjust once and forget it. That is how good necks get ruined - They DON'T get periodic adjustments, the neck wood settles where it wants to and nothing, not even a truss rod adjustment can fix it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Yahboy, MdC64 and Avezzano
#2,028
Cave Puppy said:
Totally not true. Ask ANY guitar repair person (me included - I have repaired and fixed many friend's guitars and basses). Wooden necks need at least 3-4 adjustments per year due to changes in weather, humidity, etc. "Good" necks will not adjust over time if you only adjust once and forget it. That is how good necks get ruined - They DON'T get periodic adjustments, the neck wood settles where it wants to and nothing, not even a truss rod adjustment can fix it.
Click to expand...

Whatever you think is true man, these discussions never end up in people agreeing but there's my story: I owned 30 basses/necks in 6 years. I kept 5 necks. All of these necks were made in Grand Reward, China, 4 of them are Classic Vibe line, one of them is Modern Player (Fender) line, this last neck is the one I never HAD to set since I bought it. Quarter-sawn, thick U profile, very stable. I kept them, because 4 of them are from 2014 or earlier (2014 = Modern Player Jazz, 2012 CV 60 Precision, 2011 CV 60 Jazz and 2010 CV/Artist Series Matt Freeman) and I don't have to constantly adjust them, I know I can trust them for long term. The fifth one is from 2019 and I trust it because it's from also quarter-sawn, it was made just 2 months before the production (and the new Classic Vibe line) was moved to Indonesia.

Most of the other basses/necks were just MERGUEZ, all of my 2nd gen CV necks were merguez (I had three), and my deception was the Japanese Geddy Lee neck: so thin it was warped and trussrod was heavily engaged. Even on 40-95 gauges. I also had 2 Cort necks: merguez, again, cause too thin back profile.

Good neck = a good fat C or U profile and never slim C stuff.

Period
 
#2,029
InstantEctobass said:
Whatever you think is true man, these discussions never end up in people agreeing but there's my story: I owned 30 basses/necks in 6 years. I kept 5 necks. All of these necks were made in Grand Reward, China, 4 of them are Classic Vibe line, one of them is Modern Player (Fender) line, this last neck is the one I never HAD to set since I bought it. Quarter-sawn, thick U profile, very stable. I kept them, because 4 of them are from 2014 or earlier (2014 = Modern Player Jazz, 2012 CV 60 Precision, 2011 CV 60 Jazz and 2010 CV/Artist Series Matt Freeman) and I don't have to constantly adjust them, I know I can trust them for long term. The fifth one is from 2019 and I trust it because it's from also quarter-sawn, it was made just 2 months before the production (and the new Classic Vibe line) was moved to Indonesia.

Most of the other basses/necks were just MERGUEZ, all of my 2nd gen CV necks were merguez (I had three), and my deception was the Japanese Geddy Lee neck: so thin it was warped and trussrod was heavily engaged. Even on 40-95 gauges. I also had 2 Cort necks: merguez, again, cause too thin back profile.

Good neck = a good fat C or U profile and never slim C stuff.

Period
Click to expand...

Right on! I hope it all works out for you. Good luck. Period.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Yahboy and BluBasPlr
#2,030
my CV '70s Jazz neck seems standard at 38mm nut width and 20-ish mm thickness at 1st fret. Same with the VM fretless.

My Ray 34 is 43mm nut, 20-ish thick.

My EHB 1505 - 5 string is 45mm nut and 18mm thick (approx), but it's a 9 piece lam.

great discussion - definitely something to consider.

especially when spending more than Squier prices, if ever.
 
  • Like
Reactions: sonojono and Cave Puppy
#2,032
Cave Puppy said:
Totally not true. Ask ANY guitar repair person (me included - I have repaired and fixed many friend's guitars and basses). Wooden necks need at least 3-4 adjustments per year due to changes in weather, humidity, etc. "Good" necks will not adjust over time if you only adjust once and forget it. That is how good necks get ruined - They DON'T get periodic adjustments, the neck wood settles where it wants to and nothing, not even a truss rod adjustment can fix it.
Click to expand...

I am agree with you. Even I have an flawless CIC bass in past (I ruin the truss rod my self) , even most of them only for indoor use, all of them still need minor truss rod setup alteast twist a year (same string , no swap or string replace).
Especially for who prefer low action.

I believe that Ecto bass guy are bassist from another universal, damn, Peter Parker !!!!
 
#2,033
Zoot H Rollo said:
my CV '70s Jazz neck seems standard at 38mm nut width and 20-ish mm thickness at 1st fret. Same with the VM fretless.

My Ray 34 is 43mm nut, 20-ish thick.

My EHB 1505 - 5 string is 45mm nut and 18mm thick (approx), but it's a 9 piece lam.

great discussion - definitely something to consider.

especially when spending more than Squier prices, if ever.
Click to expand...

The current Indo CV j share same neck from VM J but different tint.
 
#2,037
BBB58F0C-F8F1-4EA4-A616-71FECBECB966.jpeg
My plan was to get me a really nice Fender P/J sometime in the near future and be done for a long while but GC had to put a $360 price tag on this. I knew when I sat down with it she was coming home. These CV's are just so darn good! I have a CV 70P as well and it's fantastic. I'm just going to have to stop looking at bass guitars completely.
 
  • Like
Reactions: neil|lien, keithbroussard, Cave Puppy and 7 others
#2,039
sonojono said:
Guess I'll shop around and bring a truss rod with me to pick one up myself for the price. I've had 3 of them before and they all had truss rod issues…
Click to expand...

Mind sharing your story here ?

Several Vintage modified bass (same neck to current cortex Indo CV bass )I been own before has no truss rod issue , but suffer with neck stability issue and most of them has uneven fret wire between 13th to 17th fret that cause buzz on both DG string ( my prefer action 1.5mm on G and 1.6mm on D) .

My current Indo CV50P has similar issues on factory fretwork from Samick factory.

All CIC CV bass I own never found above issue, but, both CV50P and 60J just more than 10lbs !
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: InstantEctobass and Zoot H Rollo
#2,040
Finished out my layaway on the 70s P (CIC, 2016 serial but 2017 stamp on the neck) and brought it home today. About 250 after tax thanks to the barely functional D string tuner :(

Installed a pickup from a vintage Ibanez roadstar ii (thanks TB Classifieds!) and it sounds killer. Does anyone know if the original pickup is the same as the one in my 2010 CIC 60s? Anywho, here are my two CICs!

A01F3986-E8D6-41C7-AC7E-B2A48038D1AE.jpeg
 
  • Like
Reactions: neil|lien, BassmanM, InstantEctobass and 4 others

Latest posts

Top Bottom
Back