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Standel Amps

I remember back in the early 70's seeing a bass player run through a solid state 2 x 15" spkr Standel. I think it was called an Imperial or something similar. It sounded good. Much like a Fender Dual Showman (w/ 2 x 15 cab) and was unique in the tone knobs were stacked (I'd never seen that before). I saw a few (used) in the music shops during the 70's and haven't seen one since. :)

I saw The Grass Roots use those Standels. Weren't the controls on the top of a 2-15 cabinet?
 
I had a SS one in the '70's. I recall it was a single 15 with the amp & controls on top, and that sat on top of a matching 1X15 extension cabinet. It couldn't have been more than 100 watts, if that. The other thing I think I recall is that it was open-backed. Is that possible or is it poor memory?
 
I had a SS one in the '70's. I recall it was a single 15 with the amp & controls on top, and that sat on top of a matching 1X15 extension cabinet. It couldn't have been more than 100 watts, if that. The other thing I think I recall is that it was open-backed. Is that possible or is it poor memory?
Open back only if it was a guitar cab. I don't remember if they did an open back cab.
 
Here are a couple of pictures of the Standel amp that I bought used in the 70's that I used as a guitar amp (this was before I discovered the bass, please forgive my youthful indiscretion ;))

The cab is an Artist 30 that has 2 15"speakers and it says 140w on the back plate - it is a sealed cab so I can't tell the speakers, I think they may be JBL. The pre-amp is a MC II G that is rated at 3 watts. The serial numbers both start with 69 so I assume that it was made in 1969.

Does anyone know if it was this intended as a guitar amp or a bass amp or even both?

It appears that the pedal steel players love Standel, but is this later model desirable to anyone. It is just gathering dust since there is something wrong with it, but I am also wondering what its value might be if fixed.


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My first real amp was a Standel custom with one 15 JBL d140. The amp had tremolo and reverb and you could use it for bass.

The Standel is on the right circa 1966, Silvertones on the left... I wish I didn't sell that Danelectro next to the drums. Groopies pictured on stage were optional.
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The Standel Artist 30 you're showing has the guitar preamp, hence the MCII "G". I had the bass preamp version which didn't have the fx, and I believe was an MCII B. Around 1969/70 when everyone was flocking to Acoutic 360's, I bought this Standel rig with 3 cabs, and let me say it rocked serious balls. One of my cabs and the preamp are still at a studio here in Dallas just sitting in storage - I need to go pick that up. If I remember right two of the cabs had CTS 15's, and one had I believe Altec-Lansings.
 
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yup, the MCII-B, had that and two of the CTS Artist 30 cabs. Great sound for the time and could easily keep up w/loud guitarists and drummers until the amps released the magic smoke they're known to contain :bawl: Still sounded good using a Peavey head, though, w/those cabs. Would be fun to have the preamp and at least one of those cabs again.
 
The Standel Artist 30 you're showing has the guitar preamp, hence the MCII "G". I had the bass preamp version which didn't have the fx, and I believe was an MCII B. Around 1969/70 when everyone was flocking to Acoutic 360's, I bought this Standel rig with 3 cabs, and let me say it rocked serious balls. One of my cabs and the preamp are still at a studio here in Dallas just sitting in storage - I need to go pick that up. If I remember right two of the cabs had CTS 15's, and one had I believe Altec-Lansings.

Thanks, I pulled off the grill and it turns out that it has two 12" speakers: one labelled Sunn Guitar Transducer and the other Sunn Bass Transducer - huge square magnets on both of those.

I put it up for consignment at Bay State Vintage Guitars, (I'm planning on moving and am lightening up the house of stuff I don't use) if you know of any guitarists that want to capture that late 60's-early 70's vibe for what is likely to be something in the $300-400 range, have them check it out.
 
I saw The Grass Roots use those Standels. Weren't the controls on the top of a 2-15 cabinet?

I know this is a crazy old thread, but I can't resist talking about the Standel Bass amps. I bought mine in 1971. It was a piggy-back amp and controls were in the front.

I was playing in a touring nightclub group and we were playing Little Bo's in Lincoln, Nebraska. It was THE college hangout and had a capacity of around 500-600 people. I was playing my 1965 Fender Jazz Bass through a 1966 Fender Bassman at the time and both the lead guitarist and the keyboards guy had both bought Vox Super Beatle amps because Thomas Organ was discontinuing them. My 50 watt rms Bassman couldn't come close to keeping up with their 125 watt (rms) Super Beatles with their 412 cabinet. My '66 bassman had two 12's but they were in the larger cabinet. It was a bad match. Looked great but blew speakers. I blew 4 of those Jensen 12" speakers (problem went away for Fender CBS when they put 15's instead of 12's in it). Anyhow, if I turned it up over 7, the amp distorted badly. Plus it was making some weird moaning sounds that would stop when I tapped it on the top of the head. Changing all the tubes made no difference. Was on it's way out or at least needed a lot of "Tech" time. So I was in the market for a Dual Showman with D140F JBL's in it to keep up.

Went to Hospe Music there in Lincoln to look for a dual showman. They were out. They checked with their Omaha, Nebraska shop and they had sold their last one the day before. So the bass guy took me into the bass amp showroom and I started trying all kinds of things out. There were full-stack Kustoms, Plush, and lord knows how many other bass amps. Didn't like any of them and they didn't have the guts I needed. Was walking out when he pulled me over to one last amp against the back wall. Said it was last year's model and because of that, plus the fact it had a small tear in the fabric on the head he could get me a great price on it. It was a comparatively short 215 cabinet with the 15" speakers stacked one above the other and 4 round ports next to them. The cab was at least twice as deep as my Fender Bassman. I plugged in, turned it up to 5 and hit the low E. Just about shook the other gear off the walls. Price on the amp had been $1250 and it was being closed out at $850. He was anxious to take my black-face Bassman off my hands, and that head had a small tear (snag) on it, so he gave it to me for $550 plus my Bassman. I was then the proud owner of a Standel bass amp.

The amp was the MCIIB with the SAM30 speaker cabs. Basically it was a solid-state pre-amp for the head (weighed nothing) that hooked into a ported and tuned powered speaker cabinet delivering 250 watts rms. I soon found out that the tuned cabinet projected sound like crazy. This thing was LOUD! If I stood within 3-feet or so of the amp, the air coming out the ports would flap the bell-bottoms (yes..that long ago) on my pants. This thing pushed a LOT of air. That night I used it at Little Bo's and turned it up to 5 (12 o'clock). After the first song our girl singer went out to the back of the room to hear the mix because we had been told the bass was way too loud. Ended up turning it down to 3 so I didn't drown out those poor Super Beatle amps or hurt anyone's ears. For the next three years the only time I turned it above three was when I played an outside gig. Then I got to turn it up to 5. I compared it later side by side to the "new" acoustic 370/360 and my Standel was louder. Absolutely loved that amp.

I moved to Oregon in 1976 and we stayed at my in-laws for the first few weeks. We all went to the county fair one night and when we came back, their house had been burglarized. They got my Standell amp, my 1965 Fender Jazz bass, and my two microphones. They left me the microphone stand. Never was able to replace that amp although I have a 1978 Jazz Bass that has the same feel as my '65. I currently play through a hot-rodded Eden WT500 that was upgraded by David Nordschow himself to 400 watts per side into 4 ohms or 800 watts bridged into 8 ohms. I love it and it is a much different sound than that old Standel, but I still miss that old amp.

Bob Crooks started Standel (STANdard ELectronics) as a custom, hand-made, guitar amp company with tube amps - the absolute definition of a boutique amplifier company. Bob was also one of the first to get into building solid state amps and the one thing that he found that made many solid state amps unreliable was that they would overheat. His answer was to have modules made and entirely cover them with some kind of resin. Intent was to make the amps trouble free for life. It also made them impossible to work on. So if something went wrong, you had to replace the entire module. It actually worked really well and these amps were super reliable. Then, about the time that I bought my amp he got a shipment of faulty modules that he installed in his new amps and he went out of business trying to replace them all. Had to sell to Gibson to handle the warranty returns. The SG (Standel Gibson) amps were made for one more year before Gibson discontinued them Was pretty sad.

My Standell was a far better bass amp than any Fender or Vox or anything else of that era. Standel started up again in I believe it was 1997-1998 by Danny McKinney and Bob Crooks. McKinney produced them under license until Bob passed away in 1999 and Danny continues to hand make the original Standel designs in Ventura, CA.

Dan
 
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I looked into cloning one of the originals for a while but events ensued. They had two 807s with the transformers in the bottom, a tube pre with a novel tone control circuit remotely mounted up top behind the handle, and IIRC a JBL D-130. Here's one of the currently available versions:

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So I'm going to go ahead and bump this thread. I have come across a Standel Bass amp. I'm having some difficulty getting any real information on this model, Standel S-30b, serial number is 70-31211.

Anybody have any leads on to where I can dig up more information on it. I am considering buying it and was hoping to learn a bit more about it before so.
 
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I bought this rig in 1969 and used it all through the 70's . 3 Standel Artist 30 cabs with the MC2B bass preamp. The cabs were 140 watt powered 2x15 (two of the cabs had Altec-Lansings, one Jensen), which you would daisy chain from the preamp. So this was a 6x15, 420 watt monster. I would sometimes use it as a stack on my side with a single cab on the other side of the drummer, sometimes as a stack with the single cab beside it with the preamp, and sometimes as shown here, what we called "The Pyramid of Doom".
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Came across some old pics of me playing through my Standel MCIIB/SAM30 set up in about 1972. That's me in my much thinner state playing my 1965 Jazz Bass (with Fender tape-wound flats) through my Standel amp and the fellow on the right was our guitar player, Steve Bivins, playing through his Vox Super Beatle amp. Unfortunately Steve passed away about 2 years ago to cancer.

I got the Standel because I was being buried by both his Super Beatle and the keyboard's Super Beatle amps with my '66 Fender Bassman. Had to keep the volume on my Standel at or slightly below 3 (9 o'clock) when we played indoors. It was an amazingly LOUD bass amp and I could bury both Vox amps and drummer if I wasn't careful:

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I remember Standels...great for recording. In fact, first one I played through was in a studio, miked up with an RCA 77 ribbon set about a foot away from the speaker.

A similar amplifier from around the same time period was Magnatone. They seemed to be based on Standel designs, at least externally. The very early Univox and Premier amps recorded well too.

The best guitar amp I used for recording was this old Sano from the late 50s.
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This was a Standel from the about 1969. It stacked, and had it's independent casters for each cab, when separated. An aluminum rail system held it in place when in a full stack mode. the first one I saw was in MAE, a great music store in Fort Lauderdale, FL. It was a good size amp.

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Hey, I had one of those too and haven't seen one since I sold it to a guitarist friend in '72! I think it had an open back, but I may be mistaken. Anyway, as you can see, it was well ahead of its time in appearance!
 
Hey, I had one of those too and haven't seen one since I sold it to a guitarist friend in '72! I think it had an open back, but I may be mistaken. Anyway, as you can see, it was well ahead of its time in appearance!

It was a bit ahead of it's time in appearance. I really didn't see any around, other than the one in the store. I think the one at MAE in Fort Lauderdale, took forever for Charlie to sell. That may have been the only one he brought into the store.
 
So I'm going to go ahead and bump this thread. I have come across a Standel Bass amp. I'm having some difficulty getting any real information on this model, Standel S-30b, serial number is 70-31211.

Anybody have any leads on to where I can dig up more information on it. I am considering buying it and was hoping to learn a bit more about it before so.
I picked up a C-30B a few months ago-wonder if it's similar? It's kind of a solid state 1x15" combo version of a Bassman head. The channels are voiced much like the normal and bass channels of a Bassman, too. Serial 70-344xx. An inspection sticker inside the chassis is dated Aug 13, 1971.
Single Utah G15R. No epoxied boards. It needed a cleaning of the pots and switches to work, but I took it to a repair shop a couple blocks from my house and they got the AC wired safely, replaced most electrolytics and the filter caps, a few resistors and rebuilt the power supply to be a little more robust. Didn't really change the tone of the amp, but it has insurance to work for another couple decades.
They tested it at 85 watts clean, 180 watts at full bore. Draws 240 watts according to the rear sticker.
It's a great sounding amp, playing it on 3 is plenty loud for most anything I do. It has a nice grit to it when turned up. I switched out the RCA speaker cable with a 1/4" and replaced a home-job 1/4" extension speaker jack on the cab with a Speakon. Got a green vinyl slip cover made for it and I plan on playing it a lot. It also sounds good for guitar on the 1st channel.
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