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State pride.

#43
Tommygunn said:
Not much prolly. Austin was "useless desert", look at it. We say blah, make it useful!

Nice FB post there buddy, nothing to get upset about. They are imaginary lines on a land mass, thats it.
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Austin wasn't "useless desert". It was a semi-arid region, but it supported the original inhabitants. Fact of the matter, Texas cannot naturally support the majority of its residents. Yes, I love our state, but its basically entirely artificial. A LOT of water in Texas is from one aquifer, that is being depleted way faster than it can restore itself. Texas is built on the oil industry which allowed us to build these huge messes around the state. They'll all be ruined shortly.

I will say Texans tend to have an unique character. Even someone as un-Texan as me, is great proud to be from here (even if we've done some really stupid stuff) Texas history is a crock though. Bunch of angry white men who wouldn't obey the law in the nation they were living in. Mexico banned slavery, White guys in Texas got pissed off cause they wanted to exploit everyone that wasn't white. That's the Texas Independence movement.
 
#46
Munjibunga said:
Lessee ... California. Our schools suck, we're pretty much bankrupt, businesses are leaving, but hey, our Governator can kick your governor's little hiney, and we got sunshine, beaches and Mexican food. So it's all good.
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We have sun and beaches too. Not as nice but we have em none-the-less

shadowtippy said:
I thought Austin is the capitol, but I'm from Louisiana so I could be wrong.
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LOL it is, houston used to be the capital, long ago.
 
#47
McHaven said:
Austin wasn't "useless desert". It was a semi-arid region, but it supported the original inhabitants. Fact of the matter, Texas cannot naturally support the majority of its residents. Yes, I love our state, but its basically entirely artificial. A LOT of water in Texas is from one aquifer, that is being depleted way faster than it can restore itself. Texas is built on the oil industry which allowed us to build these huge messes around the state. They'll all be ruined shortly.

I will say Texans tend to have an unique character. Even someone as un-Texan as me, is great proud to be from here (even if we've done some really stupid stuff) Texas history is a crock though. Bunch of angry white men who wouldn't obey the law in the nation they were living in. Mexico banned slavery, White guys in Texas got pissed off cause they wanted to exploit everyone that wasn't white. That's the Texas Independence movement.
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Meh. Doesn't bother me. I like the climate, I like the music (which isn't particularly attributed to Texas) and I like the food. I also believe that you can tell a band is from Texas, a sorta influence on them I guess. You can tell when a band is from the north, but from where?
 
#50
CrispyDelicious said:
It's curious. I think maybe the emphasis that Americans put on state pride/state allegiance/state anything as a means of personal identification suggests a lingering of mentalities that were around before the US unified. Er, united.

It's not as prevalent in other countries.
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I don't have any particular state allegiance, I wouldn't die for Texas. I'd love to live in California, Louisiana, Georgia, or maybe even New York (but as far away from NYC as I can get). But I love Texas, we have some badass stuff. And I'd often get into silly arguments with my history teacher (who was from Wyoming) that Texas was better than Wyoming. I was half serious but mostly joking and she was very offended lol.
 
#52
Texas has the greatest Mexican food and California cant even compare with it. Our beaches, meh, i remember being 5 and watching oil come up to shore looking out onto the almost black ocean surronding Galveston/ Houston, maybe its different on the other side of Texas though. For the OP, yes, having lived in NC, FL, TX I can say Texas is the only state i've been in with state pride. You can tell just by walking down a street everyone there loves being there and feel proud of it.
 
#54
On a serious note, living in NJ is a mixed bag. We have probably one of the worst reputations in the country... as soon as someone hears "New Jersey" it seems to conjure up images of urban sprawl, "guido's" (aka "Jersey Shore" types), oil refineries, pollution, unflattering accents ("new joisey"), mafia, political corruption, and a host of other things. Most of which are really untrue stereo types, trust me.

The truth is that as much as I love to biotch and moan about it, this state isn't all that bad. We basically have a little bit of everything in the US wrapped up into one state which is completely cool. We have some great beaches, and while they'll never match the beaches in Florida or in Cali for instance, at least we got em. In the north we have pretty expansive mountains and forests, and while they 'aint exactly Montana, we got them too. We have some of the coolest terrain in South central Jersey in a place called the "Pine Barrens" - a creepy and old natural environment made up of various sorts of pine and oak that grow in acidic, sandy soil, complete with bogs and swamps that host rare and endangered plant and animal life, a nature lover's paradise if you go to the right areas. We have Atlantic City and while it's not a pimple on the butt of Vegas, if we want to go gamble, enjoy some good shows/nightlife, we got that. Whale watching tours or deep sea fishing? We got it. Located right between NY and Pa, it's also close to NYC or Philadelphia which host restaurants of every cuisine known to man.
Good place to have a band too because with all of the clubs in this state, NY, PA, MD, DE there's no shortage.

Before I start sounding like a tourism commercial lemme just give you the downside - our property taxes suck because of corruption, mismanagement and partisan wranglings in state gov't. Our current administration is trying to undo some, but it's so entrenched that it'll probably never change. We have lots of preserved land, but it's a constant battle as our population is such that developers will gobble up and develop any piece of land that they can make a profit on. Even if it's "preserved" a little bit of back-room dealing will solve that. Then we have Camden, Newark and some of the worst, poorest and crime-ridden cities in the US.... so, as I said, it's a mixed bag but is not at all what most people think it is.
 
#55
Well the fact that Texas still wants to secede from the United States of America makes me believe that Texans are very proud of their state. Meaning they are Texans before Americans in their mind. I think people in other states consider themselves Americans first.

Being form New Jersey and living here my whole life I have a sense of pride. NJ is far more diverse then any other place I have visited. Of course some of the stereo types are true thanks to MTV and HBO. But the area I live is a nice mix of city and country. Many great bands/musicians are from here. And many famous actors/actresses. In an hour drive I can visit the Atlantic Ocean, go Skining in the Pocono's, visit Philadelphia or New York, Asbury Park, Atlantic City, Great Adventure. We have a lot of farm land and beautiful parks. Great schools. But on the other end we have some of the worse areas for crime and poverty. So you can see why we are such a diverse state. In fact North and South Jersey are two totally different places.
 
#56
Well, I come from the state that elected not one, but TWO bad actors to the governorship, and now live in the state where I think something like 4 out of the last five governors have been arrested for charges related to racketeering, fraud and embezzlement. Yeah, not much to be proud of here.
 
#57
Relic said:
On a serious note, living in NJ is a mixed bag. We have probably one of the worst reputations in the country... as soon as someone hears "New Jersey" it seems to conjure up images of urban sprawl, "guido's" (aka "Jersey Shore" types), oil refineries, pollution, unflattering accents ("new joisey"), mafia, political corruption, and a host of other things. Most of which are really untrue stereo types, trust me.

The truth is that as much as I love to biotch and moan about it, this state isn't all that bad. We basically have a little bit of everything in the US wrapped up into one state which is completely cool. We have some great beaches, and while they'll never match the beaches in Florida or in Cali for instance, at least we got em. In the north we have pretty expansive mountains and forests, and while they 'aint exactly Montana, we got them too. We have some of the coolest terrain in South central Jersey in a place called the "Pine Barrens" - a creepy and old natural environment made up of various sorts of pine and oak that grow in acidic, sandy soil, complete with bogs and swamps that host rare and endangered plant and animal life, a nature lover's paradise if you go to the right areas. We have Atlantic City and while it's not a pimple on the butt of Vegas, if we want to go gamble, enjoy some good shows/nightlife, we got that. Whale watching tours or deep sea fishing? We got it. Located right between NY and Pa, it's also close to NYC or Philadelphia which host restaurants of every cuisine known to man.
Good place to have a band too because with all of the clubs in this state, NY, PA, MD, DE there's no shortage.

Before I start sounding like a tourism commercial lemme just give you the downside - our property taxes suck because of corruption, mismanagement and partisan wranglings in state gov't. Our current administration is trying to undo some, but it's so entrenched that it'll probably never change. We have lots of preserved land, but it's a constant battle as our population is such that developers will gobble up and develop any piece of land that they can make a profit on. Even if it's "preserved" a little bit of back-room dealing will solve that. Then we have Camden, Newark and some of the worst, poorest and crime-ridden cities in the US.... so, as I said, it's a mixed bag but is not at all what most people think it is.
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Maybe next time before I post I will read everyone else's post:rollno:

He pretty much hits the nail on the head.
 
#58
TheVoiceless said:
Well the fact that Texas still wants to secede from the United States of America
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"Texas" does not want to secede from the United States of America. Even if the governor had not been joking when he made that comment you could still not say that Texas wants to secede. If that came up as some kind of vote (and believe me, it won't) the number of people voting for it would be statistically insignificant.

bc
 
#59
CrispyDelicious said:
It's curious. I think maybe the emphasis that Americans put on state pride/state allegiance/state anything as a means of personal identification suggests a lingering of mentalities that were around before the US unified. Er, united.

It's not as prevalent in other countries.
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Er, what about Quebec?:smug:

Personally, I don't have much state pride, but I will say that I definitely prefer the region of New England to other regions that I've visited (namely the Midwest* and South**)





*The people are too friendly. Creeps me out. Also, there's so much nothing.

**Don't have to explain that one, do I?:p:hiding:
 

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